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Repeatedly having to salvage relationship.

143 replies

MarshmallowAra · 05/07/2021 20:25

My relationship went very well for the first few months, then (after discussing past relationships, in which I said straight that I'd cheated on an ex, not full sex but nonetheless) he seemed to become very insecure and pessimistic. He said he was shocked by what I said and how cavalier I seemed about or at that time, and that he'd fallen for me and was afraid as a result.

In the year since he's ended the relationship, or tried to to be more precise, at least three times and I've had to salvage it by contacting him, reasoning with him, I've gone to his home on the day we'd usually meet without a specific arrangement to talk to him about it.

Each time he has finished or tried to has been when I've been socialising on my own; twice were last minute drinks with friends/acquaintances, the other a break away with a friend, which I told him I'd probably be doing but didn't confirm until I was travelling and he rang me.

Each time he's "come around" when I talked to him, and I felt (rightly or wrongly I don't know) that he didn't really want to finish and didn't want to follow through.

But this is stressful every few months ... And I feel apprehensive about socialising or going on a break without him, while at the sane time in independent and I'm not going to stop; that wouldn't he healthy in my eyes.

He's been very reliable, committed, makes time for me, goes out of his way to collect me as I don't currently drive, he's included me in his family, he seems open to serious commitment.

But this .... Confused

OP posts:
Gilda152 · 05/07/2021 23:21

@Addicted2LuvIsland we're not going to agree are we so let's set a good example and not flog this dead horse either.

MarshmallowAra · 05/07/2021 23:22

By positive I mean it's not always dysfunction .. there can be some genuine, understandable human emotions in there.

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Addicted2LuvIsland · 05/07/2021 23:26

Fair enough @Gilda152

@gurglebelly yes but then he should not keep taking her back. If its a deal breaker then that should be it.

To be honest the way he is behaving is guaranteed to make her run straight to someone else. Its just becoming so difficult.

MarshmallowAra · 05/07/2021 23:27

Previous cheating is a dealbreaker for many people

Slight detail but for the sake of argument, most people don't have a clue what the real history of their partner is. Most people don't tell. Most people don't even consider themselves cheats if they have cheated; honest, harsh self reflection is a rare human trait.

For example bloke in this scenario had 'never chested on anyone" but said he left his coastal town on a fishing boat and stayed at its destination for several weeks until his father found out where he was and retrieved him, all because his cousins fiancee had hugged and kissed him in front of witnesses, while he'd done nothing". Sounds a bit fishy to me, no pun intended.

Anyway the not touching a cheat with a barge pole approach is .... Somewhat futile.

OP posts:
Addicted2LuvIsland · 05/07/2021 23:28

I am still interested is @Gilda152 has always been the same this lifetime and never made any msitakes (despite the fact that they just side stepped my question). Grin

MarshmallowAra · 05/07/2021 23:30

I should clarify he skipped town on the boat and stayed away because of the heat he was getting from the cousin fiancee "hugging" incident.
The story doesn't add up.

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Gilda152 · 05/07/2021 23:30

@Addicted2LuvIsland no sidestepping 🙂 just showing how disengaging from nonsense cycles of different points of view is done , you almost had it too!!

MarshmallowAra · 05/07/2021 23:30

@Addicted2LuvIsland

I am still interested is *@Gilda152* has always been the same this lifetime and never made any msitakes (despite the fact that they just side stepped my question). Grin
She's never cheated and that's all that matters in her book.
OP posts:
MarshmallowAra · 05/07/2021 23:31

nonsense cycles of different points of view is

Isn't that .. discussion

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Anordinarymum · 05/07/2021 23:32

OP
How can you salvage something that is dead in the water ? Where is your mate's self respect ?

MarshmallowAra · 05/07/2021 23:32

Now derailing own thread.

Thank you everyone for your opinions, much appreciated.

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Gilda152 · 05/07/2021 23:33

@MarshmallowAra no, it isn't. Having two diametrically opposed views isnt going to lead to a productive discussion is it, particularly when the are both subjective. A bit like this thread really...on the road to nowhere (also like the relationship in question)

Addicted2LuvIsland · 05/07/2021 23:34

@Gilda152 nah... it was side stepping!

Gilda152 · 05/07/2021 23:35

@MarshmallowAra and with your next comment you have my full admiration 😁

AnyFucker · 05/07/2021 23:41

Why is everyone pretending that this is about your friend ?

Addicted2LuvIsland · 05/07/2021 23:43

@MarshmallowAra
Exactly...discussion

I do hope your friend sorts it out. I admire her for being so honest about her past. I hope moving forward she finds someone who loves and accepts all parts of her. Mistakes and lessons she has learned. Flowers

Gilda152 · 05/07/2021 23:47

@Addicted2LuvIsland

so you're saying people don't change and grow? The bottom line is you don't know why she even cheated on her ex. There could be a million reasons. Maybe he was nasty to her. Maybe he cheated and she was young and wanted to get back at him. Maybe she was confused and suffering. Maybe she was grieving.

Where's the invite to discussion exactly? All I see are excuses for having shit morals. But we've done this so there's you answer. You don't want a discussion you want to make excuses.

Have a good one and by all means, have the last word too, the floor is yours.

Addicted2LuvIsland · 05/07/2021 23:52

@gilda152

Wow.
Just wow.

As I have said - have you never made a mistake you regretted?

I smell a troll.

Thanks for giving me the last word...but you van have it if you want it...

Addicted2LuvIsland · 05/07/2021 23:52

Can even lol

Addicted2LuvIsland · 05/07/2021 23:55

I'll take it... yay!

Anordinarymum · 06/07/2021 00:22

Why do these threads always get derailed by the same old names ?

Hrpuffnstuff1 · 06/07/2021 07:53

If he's insecure, controlling, or any other number of labels. This is ultimately what these terms are. There's a conflict of interest.
What's the point?
This is the problem with strangers on the net giving advice.

These two people are not compatible, they have completely different values and boundaries.

Screamingcowboy99 · 06/07/2021 07:57

@gamerchick

So he does the whole dance when she goes out socialising and she goes running to appease him?

Tell him to pack it the fuck in or next time he does it, he can have it.

Good grief, who could be arsed

Yup. This.
supercali77 · 06/07/2021 08:03

Sounds like abandonment issues. He either has to sort this out in therapy or she needs to leave it

Naunet · 06/07/2021 08:11

@Mountaingoatling

*.. Why would she stop in the middle of that to text her bf who was not involved in any way and lives 45 mins away?*

Because it's thoughtful? Because relationships are about communication? Because it's caused drama in the part and she wants to avoid it? Because when she cheated it perhaps started with drinks so causes her boyfriend anxiety Because? Because it's really not a big deal to text someone you've discussed marriage with to let them know where you are Because? Because if President Obama could text his wife to say he was running late, I suspect your friend can find the time. A more interesting question is, why doesn't she? And i think the answer to that is an answer for her to think about....she may not want to salvage this, not really. And that's OK.

Fuck that! Like hell would I be reporting in to some boyfriend I don’t even live with to check it’s ok I can go out!! OP has done nothing wrong, it wasn’t him she cheated on, so why should he get to punish her for it? If he can’t handle her past, then he should end the relationship and move on. What he doesn’t get to do is manipulate and guilt trip the OP about something that isn’t anything to do with him.