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The One Where Geller Proves He Is As Useful As A Chocolate Teapot

979 replies

StuckInPollyannaMode · 28/06/2021 21:48

Hear that ticking my lovelies?

Tick

Tock

Tick

Tock

That’s the sound of the bomb I have just thrown over the metaphorical trench edge at Geller. Here’s the previous thread if you need to catch up. As ever, thank you for the support and the cheering and the banter and for giving me fresh perspectives.

I am fucking DONE. Done with this. I need to stand up and fight for the girls. He is NEVER going to do what he needs to for them.

So I picked them up from school and they were quiet but ok. We’ve had pizza in our pjs and they’re asleep. I have had a barrage of questions about who I have seen this weekend and what I’ve been doing and why am I wearing new clothes and do I have new friends and am I working as much as I should be etc etc. Clearly fed by him, they’ve never done that before.

Then I get this (he hadn’t responded to my previous message at all)

How is DD1?

We can talk albeit I have very little time in the next few days. Strangely someone praised me this weekend for how well I dealt with one of her meltdowns. She really struggled with the homework. Together we bought various materials while DD2 was having her hair cut. But of course when she made it, it didn’t go well. However she and I did it together first thing Sunday before DD2 woke and she did it brilliantly.

It was DD1 that led our walk while DD2 was a pain and tried to stop us going, finally relenting after the first field.

Both of them played brilliantly with the boys over the other side of the fence. But it’s the usual challenge of when they are on their own in a small space. It’s simply a very intense thing single parenting. And I can’t break DD1 on sleeping alone and I’m not prepared for it to become tears and anger. As I say she ended up watching the football and was engrossed.

So I said

I also have very little time. So I’ll leave it to you to figure it out.

She is in bed, asleep, with clean hair. They have both been quiet and we have talked about zero tolerance for violence, shouting and arguing. and what that means and the importance of kind words and being gentle and how to act when you’re angry and that you need to be mindful of the words that come out of your mouth as they can upset people. I repeat, next week I will email to discuss the shape of the next school year as it sounds like the current arrangement isn't working for the girls if they are that short of sleep and upset at the start of the school week. The girls need you in their life but it needs to come at a lower emotional cost for them and for me.

I would like to make you aware the level of messaging is unwelcome, and that I am looking to address this and agree on appropriate levels of communication moving forward.

I await the nuclear explosion which will no doubt follow.

I. Am. Done.

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DaphneBlake101 · 12/08/2021 12:31

Oh that's just so precious. And of course you would get the joy of doing everything practical to set up said Christmas because that's so enjoyable for you!

Clutterbugsmum · 12/08/2021 12:33

@StuckInPollyannaMode

No no Daphne - he actually wanted us to SHARE Christmas Day!!!
Stick with that this is not in the best interest of the girls. That you need to create new traditions.

Also he wants you to do all the heavy work for Christmas doing all the lead up, preparations and gift buying.

Newestname001 · 12/08/2021 12:36

Absolutely this! ^ What a Twat the idiot is!! He must be spitting at you not allowing him to manipulate him. 🌹

Newestname001 · 12/08/2021 12:37

Oops! I mean manipulate YOU not him!! 🌹

Fromage · 12/08/2021 12:40

The only way to get him to do what you want is to tell him he can’t.

It’s actually abhorrent that he doesn’t want to spend time with his children unless someone else (you) is there to take care of them in his presence.

Lougle · 12/08/2021 12:56

"In truth I'm not sure what I think, and feel I need to sit quietly and contemplate it."

He does know he's not contemplating whether to sign up to fight a war? He's just being asked to have his children on his contact days, on dates that are traditionally called 'Christmas'.

RandomMess · 12/08/2021 13:08

What a dick.

I guess you just say if he wishes to cancel his contact that week that is fine but you have plans for Christmas and you can include the girls in them but not him his choice.

I would also stick very much to "so you are cancelling your contact with the DDs for that week?"

What are you waiting for from his solicitor? Ultimately it doesn't matter too much that he's delaying it all he is doing is proving that he is maintaining the level of parenting he insisted he wanted.

FelicityPike · 12/08/2021 13:11

Wow. I can’t find any other word other than wow.

AcrossthePond55 · 12/08/2021 14:11

'Sit quietly and contemplate', my Aunt Fanny!!! He's going to try to jerk you around until Xmas Eve.

Fine, let it wait 'until September', assuming you don't have to make huge travel or other plans that must be made 3 months ahead of time.

I'd put it in writing now (via email) that you asked about Xmas and he said he needed until Sept to 'make a decision as to whether or not he wanted to have his children for Xmas'. And that if he does not 'inform you of his decision' by you will assume he is not interested in having them and therefore the plan is that they will be with you.

Do be prepared for him to tell the girls that mean mummy 'won't let' him spend Xmas with them (at your house). You may want to head this off by being sure they understand that when mummies and daddies don't live together they don't spend Xmas together anymore, they each 'do' Xmas at their own houses.

I'm sorry but I love the idea of Geller (in my mind's eye) in shorts that are a little too short, white socks pulled up to mid-calf, and huge black trainers jumping up and down pitching a hissy fit "But I can't find it!!!! Use your 'magic uterine homing device' to locate it!!!" All women have them that's why we men don't need remember where we put shit. USE YOURS NOW!!". What an idiot.

Sunbird24 · 12/08/2021 15:03

Haha, Polly you are absolutely greyrocking this!
He can ‘contemplate’ all he likes, Christmas is on his days, so it’s up to him to sort it. I bet he really hates that you are being entirely reasonable as it gives him nothing to fight against. Imagine the responses if he tried to complain to people that you were making him have his own children for Christmas on HIS regular days??

KatherineSiena · 12/08/2021 15:07

Apart from obviously wanting you to do all the hard Christmas graft he probably wants to thwart any plans you might have with all the mystery men you’re lining up.

How terribly unreasonable of you being reasonable.

SpringCrocus · 12/08/2021 15:18

God he really is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't he? 🙄😡

NinaBallerinaShoes · 12/08/2021 16:37

Have you hidden the DVD cover to wind him up? 😁

Justilou1 · 12/08/2021 16:55

Did you suggest that the DVD cover may have been sucked up into his overly-tight sphincter? Oh, probably not enough room with his head up there already.
Your strategic “Poking Geller like he’s a particularly reactive hornet in a nest” is magnificent. Gold star for you!

RandomMess · 12/08/2021 17:21

Polly have you seen the thread "we didn't bring you up to have a cleaner" for some reason it really tickles me and makes me think of your Mum - a complete non reason to criticise your successful adult child!!

ItWasAgathaAllAlong · 12/08/2021 17:22

God he really is the gift that keeps on giving, isn't he?

Sorry, couldn't resist (I'll get my coat Grin)

But in all seriousness, to echo someone else's comment, just... WOW. In all the wrong connotations of the word. Angry

mbosnz · 12/08/2021 18:01

I'm just wondering, if you should say something like, 'one option that is NOT on the table, is you being at mine, or me being at yours, on Christmas. It is up to you to sort out your Christmas, with or without the children. It is up to you to sort out presents from you, for the children, regardless of where they are. Your Christmas is now thankfully, absolutely no concern of mine. So put that in your pipe and contemplate it you pompous jackass'

pointythings · 12/08/2021 18:06

I agree that you need to make it crystal clear to him that you will NOT be having any kind of joint Christmas and that you will do NOTHING to interfere with his plans because he has his DDs on his days. He does his Christmas, you do your own.

CharityDingle · 12/08/2021 18:16

@StuckInPollyannaMode

No no Daphne - he actually wanted us to SHARE Christmas Day!!!
Haha, so in his head, you would do all the work as usual.

That's a no!

Mix56 · 12/08/2021 18:18

Nothing to add, but Jackass is my new favourite word !

dexterslockedintheshedagain · 12/08/2021 19:27

@StuckInPollyannaMode

No no Daphne - he actually wanted us to SHARE Christmas Day!!!
You mean, like a NORMAL MARRIED COUPLE?!!! Wow!! He really is a sandwich short of a picnic. I soooooo want to slap him!
dexterslockedintheshedagain · 12/08/2021 19:30

@Mix56

Nothing to add, but Jackass is my new favourite word !
Mine too Grin
ThinkWittyThoughts · 12/08/2021 20:32

Deadline is the 1st September then.

Don't share the day
Don't share any decorating
Don't share any presents
Don't share the mental load

And don't share that your alternative Christmas will be before his, to avoid him trying to ruin your plans out of spite. Or buy every toy imaginable in an attempt to undo all your gifts.

KOKO

Mix56 · 12/08/2021 20:45

Oh Yes, don't tell him what you are getting them for Xmas.
He will try to undermine or otherwise out-do your gifts. because he isn't going to be doing hot chocolate round the imaginary Xmas tree..
He has no lights :o) :o)
The only upstaging he can do is spending more than you, but then again.... he bought himself an iPad when the girls needed tablets !!!.

noideawhatusernametochoose · 12/08/2021 22:19

O.
M.
G.

He's beyond awful. I can't think of any better advice or suggestions that you and the wonderful ladies above haven't thought of.

You've got this, Polly. He's so on the back foot in all of this, that he can't see his way forward.

I do hope the eventual response to your letter is worth the (long) wait.

Meanwhile... where did you hide the DVD? Grin