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The One Where Geller Proves He Is As Useful As A Chocolate Teapot

979 replies

StuckInPollyannaMode · 28/06/2021 21:48

Hear that ticking my lovelies?

Tick

Tock

Tick

Tock

That’s the sound of the bomb I have just thrown over the metaphorical trench edge at Geller. Here’s the previous thread if you need to catch up. As ever, thank you for the support and the cheering and the banter and for giving me fresh perspectives.

I am fucking DONE. Done with this. I need to stand up and fight for the girls. He is NEVER going to do what he needs to for them.

So I picked them up from school and they were quiet but ok. We’ve had pizza in our pjs and they’re asleep. I have had a barrage of questions about who I have seen this weekend and what I’ve been doing and why am I wearing new clothes and do I have new friends and am I working as much as I should be etc etc. Clearly fed by him, they’ve never done that before.

Then I get this (he hadn’t responded to my previous message at all)

How is DD1?

We can talk albeit I have very little time in the next few days. Strangely someone praised me this weekend for how well I dealt with one of her meltdowns. She really struggled with the homework. Together we bought various materials while DD2 was having her hair cut. But of course when she made it, it didn’t go well. However she and I did it together first thing Sunday before DD2 woke and she did it brilliantly.

It was DD1 that led our walk while DD2 was a pain and tried to stop us going, finally relenting after the first field.

Both of them played brilliantly with the boys over the other side of the fence. But it’s the usual challenge of when they are on their own in a small space. It’s simply a very intense thing single parenting. And I can’t break DD1 on sleeping alone and I’m not prepared for it to become tears and anger. As I say she ended up watching the football and was engrossed.

So I said

I also have very little time. So I’ll leave it to you to figure it out.

She is in bed, asleep, with clean hair. They have both been quiet and we have talked about zero tolerance for violence, shouting and arguing. and what that means and the importance of kind words and being gentle and how to act when you’re angry and that you need to be mindful of the words that come out of your mouth as they can upset people. I repeat, next week I will email to discuss the shape of the next school year as it sounds like the current arrangement isn't working for the girls if they are that short of sleep and upset at the start of the school week. The girls need you in their life but it needs to come at a lower emotional cost for them and for me.

I would like to make you aware the level of messaging is unwelcome, and that I am looking to address this and agree on appropriate levels of communication moving forward.

I await the nuclear explosion which will no doubt follow.

I. Am. Done.

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Pashazade · 29/06/2021 07:23

I believe I received a chocolate teapot as a gift a couple of Christmases ago. It was by the lovely Heston @ Waitrose!
I love the grey rock idea! Just went looking for a rock emoji.....hadn't really thought about it but this is grey and made of stone....🪦....too much?
Btw great responses and the wardrobe project sounds like fun. 🙂

BelladiMamma · 29/06/2021 07:29

@StuckInPollyannaMode they can't see if you've muted them on WhatsApp.

Rather like the grey rock, just reply as little as possible and don't expect the reply to work.

In terms of parenting, courts have a fairly low bar as they prefer to keep contact going. I had a couple of things that were worse than you've described for Geller, that I took to my solicitor and it wasn't really going to change anything. What worked for contact was an organic and gradual dropping off of visits and contacts. We still don't have a set routine because the DC also decrease it from what's agreed. After a few nuclear meltdowns from the ex he's started to accept it. If you fight every time, these Geller types can also get stuck in competitive / tit for tat mode which is just as tiring.

Have you one of the parallel parenting / co parenting apps? Much less tiring than WhatsApp and email. Also keeps track of contact time which is helpful for court & maintenance.

RandomMess · 29/06/2021 07:51

I think it would be good to switch to a parenting App as psychologically it's a switch from him use the same method of communication that you use for friends and family..

Stop him cluttering up your email and what's app etc.

I would start the return on Sunday afternoon/test time ASAP or certainly for September. Every time he asks you to yet again change contact just say no - he can miss contact which will more likely benefit the girls. Obviously switching his weekend in its entirety would be reasonable rather than the girls miss out BUT I'm not sure how that could be for work reasons??

TheTeenageYears · 29/06/2021 08:09

www.notonthehighstreet.com/theamazingchocolateworkshop/product/chocolate-teapot-gift-box

Just the thing Polly

RandomMess · 29/06/2021 08:15

I hope he isn't keen on chocolate.

MangoBiscuit · 29/06/2021 08:16

I have exH's whatsapp on mute, and it's archived so I don't have to see his stupid smug face in my chat list. If he messages, it comes out of archived, but I get no alerts, so I only know if I open the app. I tend to scan the first line without opening it, re-archive, then go back to it once I have time.

He has no idea he's on mute, unless he reads this and knows my username, in which I expect an imminent tantrum Grin

DartmoorDoughnut · 29/06/2021 09:13

Ooo I’ve got a similar jumper in my basket Polly, it’s epic but I really need to get back to work before I buy more clothes for me Grin

Congratulations on setting boundaries with FFS Geller!

Justilou1 · 29/06/2021 09:47

I hope chocolate gives him migraines

Mix56 · 29/06/2021 09:47

Its impossible to know how much of the whining messages are just his looking to impress how hard it is,
It may not be all bad for the dds, altho allowing her to watch the tv till 10pm is ridiculous.
What would piss me off is the constant blow by blow recounting. But that's probably why he does it. To keep you interested.
How does he know you have new clothes? I would tell Dds that you have new clothes as the old ones are 2 sizes too big, as you have lost weight as you are so much happier!

Newestname001 · 29/06/2021 10:45

@StuckInPollyannaMode

I have had a barrage of questions about who I have seen this weekend and what I’ve been doing and why am I wearing new clothes and do I have new friends and am I working as much as I should be etc etc. Clearly fed by him, they’ve never done that before.

So he's snooping on you now - and using your children to do it - how lovely! What a mensch! Really how much lower can he go?

He's obviously feeling threatened by how much more confident you are coming across, much stronger, more consistently- he is really feeling he is losing control over you and us trying to dig out the reason why. Really what a troll the man is.

I thought your email response was really measured, OP. Maybe next step is to consider the Co-parenting app another PP mentioned to get him out of your emails/WhatsApp feed.

Good luck with your "life laundry" - clearing stuff out is overdue in my own life. 🌹

noideawhatusernametochoose · 29/06/2021 10:53

The bit that stands out for me is him saying "It’s simply a very intense thing single parenting."....

WTF he's very badly doing the minority of it. But it's all about him, isn't it.

LadyDanburysHat · 29/06/2021 10:59

Wow, well done on both of your responses to his whining and moaning. And yes to the single parenting being intense, does he know that's what you are doing, more of the week than him.

PanamaPattie · 29/06/2021 11:21

Go Polly!

ProfessorPootle · 29/06/2021 11:43

Go Polly! I remember a thread on here where an exh incessantly messaged long essays of moany rubbish and the op would message back with a thumbs up emoji 👍🏻 maybe try that? 😂

RandomMess · 29/06/2021 12:02

I think the ignore with very occasional thumbs up could be the way to go even if he doesn't get the sarcasm!

Does he genuinely wanted to be praised for everything he does at work and at home? Is that what drives his bizarre ramblings? That you know exactly how hard it has been and therefore need to praise appropriately??

RandomMess · 29/06/2021 12:03

Presumably his dick means it is harder for him than any woman into the bargain?

Giraffe11 · 29/06/2021 12:34

His messages seem to comprise of unfiltered downloads from whatever is goi g on inside his head. They are rambling, mostly irrelevant thoughts but they do show him up for what he he is!

BobISMyUncle · 29/06/2021 12:54

Woo! Sorry, been away for a while. dealing with other shit. Please, explain, why you should NOT be buying new stuff? And why are you still allowing him to continually message/text you?
Sorry, but you are allowing him to do this!!
FFS!!! Who is taking responsibility for this? Who is enabling this Grubby Little Oik?
Sorry. I'm being harsh, but please, Polly, get a grip on this. You are getting divorced, with good reason. I'm not an expert, of any kind. I know nothing, about anything. I'm rubbish at Maths. I CAN do English, mostly. I am not, and never have been, University material. My ex attended Haberdasher Askes. A more Grubby Little Oik you have yet to meet. I AM, however, able to spell diarrhoea. My Superpower is, I can fit 15 Maltesers in my mouth, at once. Ta Da!!

BobISMyUncle · 29/06/2021 13:04

Sorry, that was completely random. I'm able to be random! That's the whole thing! YOU are completely free, to be random! Your children will become more organised and able, because you are more relaxed and able. Please, stop enabling this . I'm so sorry, it seems that you're enabling this.

ememem84 · 29/06/2021 13:22

Wow. I’ve just read all the threads. You’ve come so far!

SometimesIFeedTheSparrows · 29/06/2021 13:49

@RandomMess

Presumably his dick means it is harder for him than any woman into the bargain?
Perhaps he's not clear on the difference between having massive hairy bollocks and being a massive hairy bollock?
Justilou1 · 29/06/2021 14:53

Perhaps you should have pointed out that you were a single parent a hell of a long time before you left him, so you know all about it.

Mix56 · 29/06/2021 15:25

Yes I was musing on the very same point.... However grey rock him

BobISMyUncle · 29/06/2021 15:37

Oh My Gosh! Polly! Please, can you be more aware? Please? As I've said, I am not super intelligent. I am not university intelligent. I am probably super stupidly stupid.
Can you please, stop allowing this? Sorry. Not sorry. YOU are allowing this!!

BobISMyUncle · 29/06/2021 15:40

LOL! @RandomMess
Not harder. More difficult.

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