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Is it me? Is it him? It has been a while.

105 replies

Itsbeenalongwhile · 19/06/2021 14:00

Longstanding member, NC for this thread.
Apologies this may be long.

We met online 7 months ago. We clicked from the start and were constantly in contact a few times each day. And after a month of texts, calls and video calls we met up face to face.
I am 44 and he is 50. We both have DC. We both have very good jobs. We live 1 hour 15mins apart. I have been separated 2 years & 8 months. He has been separated 14 months.

After a few weeks, we got intimate. He has ED but we still have a very fulfilling time. He is an excellent and generous lover.

We used to talk alot, laugh a lot and chat about various things. Over time, as we were now intimate, the less we chatted about other stuff and the more time we spent being intimate. I would try to get us doing other stuff and he also said he wanted us to do other things together - watch movies, cook, go to the park, dine out but he always said we have so little time to spend together that he didn't want to waste it on mundane things and we would end up being intimate. He was always affectionate. He has been saying he loves me.

Then a lady he met online and wanted to date but she decided to go with another guy after they had met face to face, got back in touch because she and her guy had broken up.
He said he wanted to be friends with her. He invited her to his home in the evening, they had coffee together then went on a long walk (2.5hours) together, got back went and bought fish and chips, brought it back to his around 9:00pm had dinner and she left his around 11pm. I didn't hear from him that day.

He would not go for walks with me because he felt uncomfortable to be seen in his town with another woman. The day before he went on that long walk, he was feeling upset with his ex and I was meant to come and stay over to be with him. He cancelled saying that my being there would not make him happy.

I told him I was not comfortable with this friendship but he insisted and said he needed to build a support network. His marriage had been very controlling, it made him very ill physically.

He met up with this lady friend of his again another day. I didn't hear from him that day. I messaged him later that night to find out how he was and how their meeting up went.
He responded by saying he felt controlled by me, he felt he had to explain himself and his friendships to me, he couldn't continue to walk on eggshells around me, he said all I wanted was sex (we weren't really doing PIV, he has ED), that he wanted a proper relationship and that his instincts are telling him we aren't right for each other.
I was taken aback and really upset. It was such a 180° from the conversations we were having the day before where he said he wanted to be my rock, to be the person I turn to for support and advice.

My understanding from that message was that he was ending things. I called him to chat and understand what has gone on. We talked for a bit and I called him out on the false things he had said. He said he needed a few days to think. I didn't hear back from him for 3 days, by then though I was really upset, I had made my peace with it and messaged him to ask for my stuff that was at his place and wish him all the best. He replied that he would bring them to me and would like to chat.

We met up, he apologised for how unfair he had been to me, how poorly he had handled things and explained that his instincts are messed up, his history has got him being suspicious of everyone but he knew that it was not easy to meet someone you have a strong connection with and get on with so well. Long story short, I collected my stuff from him but I decided to give it another go.

Since then as much as I have tried to get us do non-sexual activities, he will be eager to do the activities but he still tries to steer things to intimacy. He is less affectionate, he doesn't get in touch like previously but he will message a good morning and a good night, he doesn't make a lot of effort to make arrangements to meet up and he has stopped saying 'I love you'. But when we do get to speak on calls, he will chat away as he has always done and is forthcoming with what he has been upto, he will tell me I look nice etc. He will still try to turn the chat sexual. I don't follow him when he does that. We met up recently for after work drinks and dinner after not seeing each other for over a week and I told him I was so looking forward to seeing him. I asked how much he was looking forward to seeing me and he said 7/10. I felt that was a low score.

I was never much of a dater before I married and I married the 3rd person I ever dated. And that was a long time ago. I feel poorly equipped to understand what is going on here.

I feel like the relationship is regressing..i miss how we used to be... I feel like something is off.
Or is this the normal course of relationships? Is he leading me on? Are we just sex buddies? Or am I expecting too much from a relationship?
Please, give me your thoughts.
Thank you if you managed to get to the end.

OP posts:
66babe · 19/06/2021 14:08

I think he wants his cake and eat it
I'm really sorry to say this but I think he's using you as a crutch for his ED .. it's been addressed , you've found ways round it so he's comfortable with you and sex
I think he wants to keep his options open and is not serious about you ?
But who knows .... it's a funny old world

Cabana21 · 19/06/2021 14:08

You need to walk away from this man. It would seem this woman who got back in touch has turned his head and confused him. He backed away from your relationship, then came back setting the bar even lower for how he’s treating you. In my opinion no this is not normal, and how he turned everything round onto you is a major red flag. Walk away, you deserve better.

bonfireheart · 19/06/2021 14:09

Tbf he sounds like a controlling nightmare.

SlobSister · 19/06/2021 14:19

@Cabana21

You need to walk away from this man. It would seem this woman who got back in touch has turned his head and confused him. He backed away from your relationship, then came back setting the bar even lower for how he’s treating you. In my opinion no this is not normal, and how he turned everything round onto you is a major red flag. Walk away, you deserve better.
Exactly this. You two are now on completely different pages and if you continue seeing him I think you're going to get badly hurt. Sorry OP. Flowers
Posieandpip · 19/06/2021 14:21

Get rid! It's going nowhere. He's playing games and clearly still wants to date while having you on call. This isn't normal. Never fall for the whole "Waaaahhhh I'm so emotionally damaged by an ex that I'm gonna treat you like shit because poor me!!" thing.

Sunflower1970 · 19/06/2021 14:22

Dump him

Seesawmummadaw · 19/06/2021 14:26

‘I asked how much he was looking forward to seeing me and he said 7/10. I felt that was a low score’ Hmm eh?

You are a fuck buddy.

NotaCoolMum · 19/06/2021 14:33

He sounds vile.

GertietheGherkin · 19/06/2021 14:43

A new 7 month "relationship" shouldn't be this much hard work!

He's running rings around you!

He's got you and his love bombing when you first met was quite possibly to lull you into a false sense of security. When you come out of a long relationship/marriage, the World of dating is a minefield. He's strutting around like a peacock with him thinking he's got these two women fawning over him, and he's lapping it up. She's not as far into the relationship as you though yet, so he's probably not got to the physical stage with her yet, so he's making do with you.
The fact that he's tested your boundaries and found you to be a bit of a pushover he's walking all over you. He treated you badly by meeting this other woman, not being in contact, and accused you of controlling him. You did the "pick me dance" and gave him another shot at you. He's just coasting now. You need to end this for your own good. You then need to take a really good look at boundaries going forward. He's not interested in doing anything other than being intimate as he's probably got a few more on the go... Why doesn't he want to be seen with you in town? What's his worry? That you're going to bump into people he doesn't want you to?
Men that bleat on about former controlling partners/wives often actually turn out to be the controller's in reality.
Throw this one back, and move on.

Itsbeenalongwhile · 19/06/2021 19:00

Thank you so much everyone for your replies. I sincerely appreciate it.

I felt my tummy drop when I started reading your replies. It is really hard reading, to have my fears confirmed but I know you all are saying the truth. I guess I deep down I knew.
I do really like him but the relationship is starting to make me anxious and miserable.
I really do need to look into boundaries going forward and why I was such a pushover. On why I am such a pushover.

He has his DC this weekend so will have to call him or meet up to talk after the weekend. I feel it will be rude to message him and end it.

OP posts:
Itsbeenalongwhile · 19/06/2021 19:09

This is going to come out of the blues for him. He has no idea that I have been feeling like this.
I really don't need to make a big deal about how and when I am going to start this conversation with him, do I.
I don't know why I am.

OP posts:
anunexaminedlife · 19/06/2021 19:30

Don't bother giving the dumping any consideration. Just block him. He's been on a fucking date whilst seeing you and somehow managed to get you to feel that this was vaguely acceptable.

hellohellosailor · 19/06/2021 19:36

I second that. Why show him the curtesy he denied you?

wobblywinelover · 19/06/2021 19:40

He sounds disordered OP and he's trying to live some sort of double life i'm willing to bet. Sounds completely untrustworthy. I'd cut your losses and be thankful you only spent a few months on him. I'm sorry

Polomintee · 19/06/2021 19:40

I don't think it sounds like a loving, respectful relationship. He's messing you around and treating you like a puppet. I'm sorry, horrible as it is I think you need to walk away. If you want to see if it can work then you could address the big issues, like you want to be able to go for a walk together, you want to be exclusive etc. But he doesn't sound very nice.

mylovelydd · 19/06/2021 19:44

You sound lovely Op. He on the other hand sounds horrible and controlling. He will destroy your self esteem. 7 out of 10? Tell him to get fucked!
Don't bother meeting him to dump him, he will only convince you to stay and it will be even worse after that. Don't give him the opportunity to keep hurting you with his bullshit. You don't owe him anything.
Just text him that it's not working for you and then block him.
You deserve to be treated with respect and you will never get that with this man.

MadMadMadamMim · 19/06/2021 19:47

He sounds awful. And I'm going to sound like a bitch here, but I could not be arsed to be tiptoeing around a new bloke who had problems getting an erection, couldn't give me sex and yet didn't make any efforts at socialising, going out, etc.

That's without even getting into the stuff about him being a dick with meeting up with other women as 'friends'. It sounds suspiciously like an ego boost because he knows he's got a problem with ED.

OverTheRubicon · 19/06/2021 19:53

You deserve a lot better than someone who pretends to want a real relationship when he is in actual fact a fuck buddy who can't even fuck you.

Everyone else has made all the other points I'd want to make too.

Lan2020 · 19/06/2021 19:58

Leave him, you deserve more. He wants to keep you hanging on in the background whilst effectively dating another woman!
To say he didn't want you to come over as it wouldn't make him happy but then invite another woman over 😳

Strikethrough · 19/06/2021 20:28

Goodness me, don't meet yo with him OP! There is no way, no way on earth, that will end well for you. You will not get closure, you will not be able to get him to see that what he's done is unacceptable, he will just use it as an opportunity to grind you down/hurt you/make you doubt yourself.

Send one short message if you must ("This isn't working for me. I don't wish to see you anymore.") and then block. Save yourself.

Aprilx · 19/06/2021 20:30

I think the relationship has gone as far as it is going to. He was blatantly testing the water with this other woman whilst pretending it was nothing to you. I found myself suspecting that she gave him the brush off which is why he reappeared after that conversation.

It is time to call it a day. I would tell him, but I wouldn’t go into your true thoughts, I would just tell you don’t think it is working out.

Domoresteps · 19/06/2021 20:32

Don’t meet him, don’t ‘talk’, don’t remain friends, just call it a day and mean it.

Zerrin13 · 19/06/2021 21:12

Please show this clown and his limp cock the door

66babe · 19/06/2021 21:17

I'd send him something like this

Funny how things turn out , I'm glad to see your feelings were also nothing serious and your dating outside our relationship as I've not been feeling it recently
Think we've probably run our course
Have fun and take care of you
I'm moving on

Then do exactly that , move on and enjoy your life ! You deserve better but actually being on your own isn't so bad

Imjustsootired · 19/06/2021 21:19

Limp cock Grin

He's a player....and clearly, has ideas above his station.

Hes running rings around you and he bloody knows it. Pick up your pride and leave him, for good. Watch how he crawls and crawls to get back once you show him how strong you can be. He will panic. Keep your foot on his neck (not literally obviously) and fuck him off. He deserves to learn a harsh life lesson.