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Is it me? Is it him? It has been a while.

105 replies

Itsbeenalongwhile · 19/06/2021 14:00

Longstanding member, NC for this thread.
Apologies this may be long.

We met online 7 months ago. We clicked from the start and were constantly in contact a few times each day. And after a month of texts, calls and video calls we met up face to face.
I am 44 and he is 50. We both have DC. We both have very good jobs. We live 1 hour 15mins apart. I have been separated 2 years & 8 months. He has been separated 14 months.

After a few weeks, we got intimate. He has ED but we still have a very fulfilling time. He is an excellent and generous lover.

We used to talk alot, laugh a lot and chat about various things. Over time, as we were now intimate, the less we chatted about other stuff and the more time we spent being intimate. I would try to get us doing other stuff and he also said he wanted us to do other things together - watch movies, cook, go to the park, dine out but he always said we have so little time to spend together that he didn't want to waste it on mundane things and we would end up being intimate. He was always affectionate. He has been saying he loves me.

Then a lady he met online and wanted to date but she decided to go with another guy after they had met face to face, got back in touch because she and her guy had broken up.
He said he wanted to be friends with her. He invited her to his home in the evening, they had coffee together then went on a long walk (2.5hours) together, got back went and bought fish and chips, brought it back to his around 9:00pm had dinner and she left his around 11pm. I didn't hear from him that day.

He would not go for walks with me because he felt uncomfortable to be seen in his town with another woman. The day before he went on that long walk, he was feeling upset with his ex and I was meant to come and stay over to be with him. He cancelled saying that my being there would not make him happy.

I told him I was not comfortable with this friendship but he insisted and said he needed to build a support network. His marriage had been very controlling, it made him very ill physically.

He met up with this lady friend of his again another day. I didn't hear from him that day. I messaged him later that night to find out how he was and how their meeting up went.
He responded by saying he felt controlled by me, he felt he had to explain himself and his friendships to me, he couldn't continue to walk on eggshells around me, he said all I wanted was sex (we weren't really doing PIV, he has ED), that he wanted a proper relationship and that his instincts are telling him we aren't right for each other.
I was taken aback and really upset. It was such a 180° from the conversations we were having the day before where he said he wanted to be my rock, to be the person I turn to for support and advice.

My understanding from that message was that he was ending things. I called him to chat and understand what has gone on. We talked for a bit and I called him out on the false things he had said. He said he needed a few days to think. I didn't hear back from him for 3 days, by then though I was really upset, I had made my peace with it and messaged him to ask for my stuff that was at his place and wish him all the best. He replied that he would bring them to me and would like to chat.

We met up, he apologised for how unfair he had been to me, how poorly he had handled things and explained that his instincts are messed up, his history has got him being suspicious of everyone but he knew that it was not easy to meet someone you have a strong connection with and get on with so well. Long story short, I collected my stuff from him but I decided to give it another go.

Since then as much as I have tried to get us do non-sexual activities, he will be eager to do the activities but he still tries to steer things to intimacy. He is less affectionate, he doesn't get in touch like previously but he will message a good morning and a good night, he doesn't make a lot of effort to make arrangements to meet up and he has stopped saying 'I love you'. But when we do get to speak on calls, he will chat away as he has always done and is forthcoming with what he has been upto, he will tell me I look nice etc. He will still try to turn the chat sexual. I don't follow him when he does that. We met up recently for after work drinks and dinner after not seeing each other for over a week and I told him I was so looking forward to seeing him. I asked how much he was looking forward to seeing me and he said 7/10. I felt that was a low score.

I was never much of a dater before I married and I married the 3rd person I ever dated. And that was a long time ago. I feel poorly equipped to understand what is going on here.

I feel like the relationship is regressing..i miss how we used to be... I feel like something is off.
Or is this the normal course of relationships? Is he leading me on? Are we just sex buddies? Or am I expecting too much from a relationship?
Please, give me your thoughts.
Thank you if you managed to get to the end.

OP posts:
GinTonicIce · 19/06/2021 21:23

Ah sorry to read this. Sounds like you instruct of things being ‘off’ is correct.

This bit stuck out for me He cancelled saying that my being there would not make him happy.

You deserve better. A partner. Don’t settle for this man who doesn’t see you as a priority & is wasting your time.

IsThePopeCatholic · 19/06/2021 21:24

He sounds like a tosser, op. You’re being used by him. You deserve better.

Maggiesfarm · 19/06/2021 21:28

@Itsbeenalongwhile

This is going to come out of the blues for him. He has no idea that I have been feeling like this. I really don't need to make a big deal about how and when I am going to start this conversation with him, do I. I don't know why I am.
I'd just ignore him, op. Easier said than done of course but you obviously want different things - he seems to want to be single and keep his options open.

Try not to telephone him but wait until he rings you, then you can tell him it's been fun but....

Good luck.

Mookie81 · 20/06/2021 01:14

@Seesawmummadaw

‘I asked how much he was looking forward to seeing me and he said 7/10. I felt that was a low score’ Hmm eh?

You are a fuck buddy.

A fuck buddy who can't even get it up!
Aquamarine1029 · 20/06/2021 01:19

He is nothing by a user. A pathetic, controlling man. Don't even waste your time meeting him in person. That's a terrible idea.

AtrociousCircumstance · 20/06/2021 01:23

Bloody hell. Why are you cow-towing to this utter bullshit? Can’t you see it’s a ridiculous non-starter with someone substandard?

FetchezLaVache · 20/06/2021 02:54

@GinTonicIce

Ah sorry to read this. Sounds like you instruct of things being ‘off’ is correct.

This bit stuck out for me He cancelled saying that my being there would not make him happy.

You deserve better. A partner. Don’t settle for this man who doesn’t see you as a priority & is wasting your time.

Yes, that did it for me too. He's a negger. You're his no-fuck fuck buddy, and so is his new "friend". He hates you and all women. You are far too good for this pathetic specimen, please don't give him a second more of your time.
tigertreats · 20/06/2021 03:26

@Itsbeenalongwhile

This is going to come out of the blues for him. He has no idea that I have been feeling like this. I really don't need to make a big deal about how and when I am going to start this conversation with him, do I. I don't know why I am.
He sounds horrible .

You sound very sweet and you do not deserve this.

Whatever happens this is not about you - he clearly has issues and would struggle to kind to anyone.

Get online and get a new man who'sdick works !
Grin

Xxxxxxxzzz

Itsbeenalongwhile · 20/06/2021 03:28

Thanks, everyone.
Reading your responses and I realise that I still have low self esteem.

I thought I had spent the years after my marriage break up working on myself and getting myself right. It was a mentally & emotionally abusive marriage that also became physical. Marriage ended the day it became physical abuse.

@AtrociousCircumstance, he was attentive, complimentary, got my sense of humour, had the same opinions on certain topics, found me attractive, enjoyed chatting with me and spending time with me.

OP posts:
Itsbeenalongwhile · 20/06/2021 03:28

Smile @ Limp dick.

OP posts:
Itsbeenalongwhile · 20/06/2021 04:04

@Maggiesfarm, I like that idea.
I am thinking a combination of all the suggested ideas.

I will not call or message him. I wonder how long that will happen before he notices or asks. I will just wait till he calls then have the conversation.
Thank you so much, everyone.

OP posts:
Itsbeenalongwhile · 20/06/2021 04:10

😂 No fuck fuck-buddy.

OP posts:
Washingtofold · 20/06/2021 04:51

This guy sounds like he is using you as a fill in and someone to prop up his self esteem until he finds his ‘ fantasy woman ‘
Hen this other woman came back he was quick to shelve you
Once he realised she’d likely expect more than he could provide he came half assed back to you .
Sounds like he’d do it again the minute he thought a ‘ better ‘ option turned up
Personally , I’d tell him a contact from the past had been in touch and I as too busy catching up with this friend to see him next time he bothered to contact me
Maybe I’m too harsh but this is just lolly shop mentality I think and these guys really deserve a dose of their own medicine
Or you could just play it nice and tell him you want someone who is more into you and you’re not feeling it with him
You deserve way better

LaLaLandIsNoFun · 20/06/2021 04:56

He’s using you.

Taikoo · 20/06/2021 05:15

Agree you're his fuck buddy.
Bin him.

BadNomad · 20/06/2021 05:38

Honestly, you'll feel so much better when YOU end it. You're worth more than 7/10.

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PurplePansy05 · 20/06/2021 06:11

Wow, OP. Sorry you're being treated like this Flowers

Big alarm bells to me. Firstly, the guy has issues. Many of them! And it's not your job to resolve them for him. He isn't ready for a relationship at all.

Secondly, I think on top of his many unresolved issues, he is also a bit of a dick and is not treating you well. It seems if he was in a better place, he'd have more confidence and the real side would come out. I'd run, as fast as I can!!

You deserve so much better Flowers Please leave and don't let that prick affect your self-esteem or attitude to dating and relationships Flowers

Hopingforabagofbuttons · 20/06/2021 07:09

This guy sounds like he is using you as a fill in and someone to prop up his self esteem until he finds his ‘ fantasy woman ‘
Hen this other woman came back he was quick to shelve you
Once he realised she’d likely expect more than he could provide he came half assed back to you .
Sounds like he’d do it again the minute he thought a ‘ better ‘ option turned up

This has summed it up perfectly.
No relationship should result you you feeling anxious and confused, not even for a minute.
Don’t give too much consideration to his feelings, he didn’t give you a second thought when he went trotting after the other woman he was initially interested in and not getting in touch with you,as I’m sure he realised you were anxious about this meet up.
Maybe he was intimate with her too and she was less tolerant of his ED than you have been and binned him off.
He sounds manipulative and selfish.

ittakes2 · 20/06/2021 07:21

Sorry I also think this relationship has run its course. As others have said he's had his head turned but is not letting you go because you are patient with his ED.

MummyofTw0 · 20/06/2021 07:28

He sounds horrendous. Totally gaslighting you. Get rid

Blossomandbee · 20/06/2021 07:34

There are so many red flags here. I'm sorry but please stop letting him treat you like this.
It sounds like he's using you for intimacy (I would say sex but you say that's not happening) whilst keeping his options open with other women.
He doesn't want to be seen out with you in his town (wtf!) but is happy to go walking with another woman.
He's openly seeing this other woman under your nose - not normal at all. She's not a friend, she's someone he wanted romantically.
He's making it obvious he thinks little of you, doesn't value you or particularly look forward to seeing you.
He sounds very messed up and is gaslighting you over any concerns.

I know it's hard when you click with someone, but if he was right for you then you wouldn't be posting on here and doubting yourself. He's treating you appallingly and you can do so much better.

AtrociousCircumstance · 20/06/2021 08:46

@Itsbeenalongwhile

Thanks, everyone. Reading your responses and I realise that I still have low self esteem.

I thought I had spent the years after my marriage break up working on myself and getting myself right. It was a mentally & emotionally abusive marriage that also became physical. Marriage ended the day it became physical abuse.

@AtrociousCircumstance, he was attentive, complimentary, got my sense of humour, had the same opinions on certain topics, found me attractive, enjoyed chatting with me and spending time with me.

Yes of course OP, that hooked you at the start - but everything else that occurred after the brief seemingly positive beginnings is an absolute travesty, and frankly it’s self harm to pursue it. Which you are aware of I know and I’m glad you’re removing him from your life.
Figgygal · 20/06/2021 08:52

He seems to just want to shag you probably because you’ve been supportive if his ED and have the other non physical stuff with this other woman
You’re better than this

IAmAWomanNotACis · 20/06/2021 08:55

I'm glad you are going to do something about it. He's shagging you and (effectively) dating her. Not on.

There are so many red flags about him in your OP, but I'm really proud of your subsequent posts. You've got this!