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Husband expected me to change after marriage!!

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Kerrik · 05/06/2021 01:54

Advice please! I met my husband in Ireland, 12 years ago online when we were both in our late 20's. We moved to London 8 years ago and we have been here ever since. He was cute, shy, intelligent, and just made me laugh all the time. I was/am very outgoing, so we were opposites, but they say opposites attract!! I love a good night out and I really value my family and friendships. I noticed the only friends he had were from school, but I did not think anything of it. I have mainly friends from college and work as I moved away from home at 18 and lost contact with most of the school friends, bar 2 good friends from my hometown.

In the early days of our relationship, he used to come out with me and my friends all the time. He knew I loved a party and he never said anything about my wild nights or my crazy friends. (I think he was trying to be someone he wasn't because he liked me, so I feel a bit tricked looking back) Now we have been married for 3 years and nearly immediately after we married, he would make comments like "you are meeting your friends for drinks on a Tuesday? It's a school night!" Now I am nothing like I was when we first met, I was clubbing a lot and going to lots of parties, no more clubbing for me now, just dinner and wine with my girls! He now says that Monday to Thursday is workdays and evenings are for "down time" only, not to making plans, so we never go for dinner, or the cinema or anything and he judges me when I meet friends. He says the only nights he would go for a drink are Friday and Saturday but on Friday he is always too tired, and he spends most nights and weekends playing PlayStation with his school friends, who all live in their hometown, and they just drink, and smoke weed, zero ambitions. Oh, and Sunday is "down time" day too to prepare for work Monday so we cannot make plans either on a Sunday. Btw he is a middle management engineer, not a CEO or air traffic controller!

We moved to London 8 years ago from Ireland and I tried my best to make new friends and I have a fantastic circle of friends who I love, however, he does not have one friend. It puts so much pressure on me as I feel bad leaving him at home when I go out, plus he makes me feel guilty and makes nasty comments about my drinking. (I got very drunk after a work Xmas party in 2017 and when I got home I didn't want him to see me in a state so I waited until I could hear him settle in the bed but in the meantime, I feel asleep on the stairs and I woke up to him videoing me calling me a disgrace, he was so so angry it was scary... he keeps bringing that incident up as an example of how irresponsible I am) He doesn't really drink himself, but now has such a problem with me drinking alcohol (his mam has negatively talked about alcohol to him his whole life cos her Dad was an alcoholic and I feel this has rubbed off on him). If I wanted to have a glass a wine on a Saturday night while watching a film, he would say that is strange drinking by myself. If I come home after having one too many, he is outraged, he has on numerous occasions taken all the bed clothes off the bed so I would have no blankets to sleep under, he calls me a c**t, whore and all the nasty words you can think of, it's very intimidating. Just for context, I might go for drinks once or twice a week, I work in the events industry so it's very social, however, probably about 2 to 3 times a year I might have too much after a major party and need to go to bed, but I have some friends I have to carry home all the time and I am definitely more responsible than that.

Anytime we go on holiday, he is too tired to go out! We could be having an amazing dinner and then I would suggest seeing live music, have a dance but he is always too tired, we are home for 9pm... IT IS SOOOO BORING! I feel I have married the school principal, or the fun police and my life and experiences are just drifting away because of his rules.

We do not have children and we have started IVF, if I leave him now, I will never be a mom. I do not know what to do as he hasn't cheated or anything but none of my family or friends like him. he makes no effort and treats my baby sister appallingly, which hurts me a lot. I worry about him because without me, he has no social life or even a life. Everything he does is with me in mind to the extent it can be quite intense as he only wants to spend time with me, I am his world. We got on fantastically during lockdown as I could not go anywhere, it was bliss for him but now I am meeting friends again, it is causing fights and issues. It is my Dads 70th this year and I want to do a family holiday, but he does not want to as he knows they are up for drinks and fun; he just wants the 2 of us. He has never gone away with my family in the 12 years we are together, but I have with his family on numerous occasions, which is very boring, all in bed for 9pm but I do it cos I love him.

If we split, I lose my home as I cannot afford to buy him out. The reason I am writing this is a friend came to visit me on Wednesday evening and I cooked dinner and we shared a bottle of wine in the garden in the sun as I had a stressful interview that day and she was being supportive. He wasn't happy and he text me at 9.30pm saying he was going to bed, basically a cue to ask her to leave but he didn't go to sleep until midnight, it was just to get her to leave so he could enjoy his "downtime" Arrrgghhhh!!!!

There is so much to think about, plus being single at 40 sounds horrible!!! I think what it comes down to is my husband thought once we got married, I would want to just stay home with him but that's not enough for me, I need my family, friends and a social life. Any advice? Confused

OP posts:
shesellsseacats · 05/06/2021 09:57

Two of my friends had babies at 40 by donor insemination as they knew they wanted kids but hadn't met the right man. One of them left the bloke she was in a happy relationship with as he didn't want kids so her choice was be a mother or stay with her BF. She went with what she really wanted.

This is a real possibility, please don't stay with this man who treats you like shit because you want kids, it'll be a nightmare with him.

Polkadots2021 · 05/06/2021 09:58

Being single at 40 can be amazing, a brand new start and a clean slate with every possibility in front of you. Being 40 with an abusive husband, on the other hand, is a terrible, depressing way to turn 40. If you knowingly bring kids into an abusive household it gets even worse and turns into an utter multigenerational disaster. I'd run not walk away from this.

tiredanddangerous · 05/06/2021 10:03

If you have a baby with this man you will never be able to go out and socialise because he will refuse to look after the baby to stop you.

orangecinnamon · 05/06/2021 10:08

@notacooldad

Compatibility issues here. It really does sound as though you are not compatible. Yes you could say being abused by someone makes you incompatible. ( being called a cunt a whole and other nasty words) treats her family bad and hurts her sister. Yeah, that sums up incompatable.
This incompatibility nonsense is really giving me the rage!
pinkyredrose · 05/06/2021 10:08

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?

Right on cue 09:52AttilaTheMeerkats time honoured probing question! Grin

BillyTodd · 05/06/2021 10:09

He's a manchild, playing video games with waster school friends, who is also abusive. Does he smoke weed himself or just his mates? Either way, Children with him is a REALLY. BAD. IDEA. Splitting up with him seems like a Really Good Idea. You'll get equity out of the house and put it towards a new home.

Realistically, I think you probably also, independently of anything to do with him, need to have a think about if you are drinking too much I'm afraid. There's nothing wrong with being social with your friends on weeknights or weekends, there's nothing wrong with a glass of wine of an evening. I'm 40 too, and "having too much after a major party" 2 or 3 times a year on top of drinking more than one drink 2-3 times a week does sound like too much to me. Have a look at government guidelines, and think about if realistically you'd be better off drinking a bit less. No reason why you can't still be social going out and only having one alcoholic drink, or ging for meals or coffees instead.

TSBelliot · 05/06/2021 10:09

I am an extrovert married to an introvert. He facilitates my nights out, my weekends away and taxis me home after drunken nights or orders a waiting take out for when I get in. I facilitate his introversion by making space for him, doing g all the sociable child related stuff he hates and this is how two people who love each other behave. Your partner is abusive ans you should leave - donor IVF would be so much better.

LannieDuck · 05/06/2021 10:09

I'm an introvert, and there were so many red flags pinging at me as I read that.

(I actually enjoy it when my DH goes out by himself because it means I get the house to myself (except sleeping children obv!). It's lovely, quiet, alone time.)

Firstly, tries to dictate which days you can go out or not. You're an adult - he doesn't get to tell you what to do.

Secondly, he tried to humiliate you when you fell asleep on the stairs. You should consider whether your drinking is a problem, but he ought to be supportive. Intentionally humiliating you is never ok.

Thirdly, he takes your blankets and calls you vile names.

Fourthly, he treats your little sister appallingly (would like to hear more about that?)

Fifthly, "be quite intense as he only wants to spend time with me, I am his world" - this is the biggest alarm bell for me. It's very unhealthy.

Sixthly, you meeting friends is causing issues for him. Why on earth should that be a problem? Of course you can meet up with your friends. It's not like you're leaving him stuck at home looking after kids. This period while you go through IVF should be one of freedom and enjoying being able to do things and go places.

Seventhly, he's never gone away with your family, even though you've gone away with his multiple times... and he's being difficult about your Dad's 70th.

Dizzy1234 · 05/06/2021 10:10

40 isn't too old to start again, don't have a baby with this man as he will really have something to use to control you, to add to the cunt and whore comments he can add bad mother.
If you eventually break up he'll use the child even more to control you, like apply for 50/50, run you down to the child, mess about with your contact days so you can't make plans.
I don't say this lightly but LTB 💐

wewereliars · 05/06/2021 10:21

For goodness sake do not have kids with this main. Your life will be a prison. He sounds awful, you can have children on your own. You really really need to leave Flowers

Giggorata · 05/06/2021 10:27

I am an introvert married to an extrovert. Over the years, we have worked out ways where we can both support each other's needs, as we enjoy our differences, as well as what we have in common.

Your husband.. VIDEOING you as you lie sleeping/in a stupor? Pulling bedclothes off you? Calling you a whore and a cunt? Abusing your little sister? Horrible to your family?
Please do not have a child with this man. You are not only incompatible but he is a joy sucking, controlling man, and it can only get worse.

For your future, which hopefully will include a nicer, supportive partner, I can't help thinking that an extrovert lifestyle of heavy drinking and partying won't help a successful, healthy pregnancy, or good parenting. Not be judgemental, because in the days when DH and I were working out our relationship, I partied heavily alongside him for a time. 🙂

BronwenFrideswide · 05/06/2021 10:27

Do not bring a child into this toxic environment, why would you subject a child to this?

Leave him.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 05/06/2021 10:28

Abusive twat. Sofa surf with friends, find a flat share, LEAVE HIM.

FrumpyBetty · 05/06/2021 10:30

Wow okay. Up until the 'cunt' part I was thinking it's okay that life styles don't match in a marriage but the swearing and removing your covers is abusive.

You would be a fool to bring a baby into the abusive relationship.

Leave his controlling arse.

dottiedodah · 05/06/2021 10:33

He is abusive and unhinged! Who rips all the blankets off the bed,calls you a whore and the C word ,and generally belittles you like this.I would most certainly not risk having a baby with him ,he will be 10 times worse FFS!

StuffinThePuffin · 05/06/2021 10:34

Being single at 40 sounds a heck of a lot better than being married to this guy

Subbaxeo · 05/06/2021 10:35

I’m just echoing other people. Having a child with this man and then leaving would be far worse than leaving now. You sound as though you want to party a lot and love boozing. He really doesn’t, gets very angry and says things to you which, if they continue will kill the affection you had for him. My ex husband used to say things to me in anger-my personality used to wind him up. My affection died, my marriage now is far better because we’re compatible and understand each other. As someone who doesn’t drink very much, living with someone who drinks a lot is really hard to live with. I had a partner who drank lots, fell asleep on the stairs etc and I hated it. So you might be doing him a favour if you call it quits.

Phrowzunn · 05/06/2021 10:35

Sorry but what is actually going on in your head to be considering bringing an innocent defenceless baby into this mess. Honestly that is selfish beyond belief. He sounds like an absolute dickhead and you sound like you need to grow up to be honest. Neither of you should be parents right now, especially not with each other. I can’t tell you how much having a baby tests your relationship - it needs to be absolutely rock solid to start with if it’s going to survive. Don’t bring a baby into this.

Beautiful3 · 05/06/2021 10:44

I don't normally comment on these kinds of threads, but I feel like I need to. Please realise that he's being controlling, manipulative and abusive. Please think about whether you want to spend the rest of your life with him? When you're 80, you'll look back at this and wonder why on earth you didn't leave. What a waste if a life. Please leave him. Remember when one door closes, another will open. Your life will be full of opportunities when you leave him. Please enjoy your life.

Honey83 · 05/06/2021 10:46

numerous occasions taken all the bed clothes off the bed so I would have no blankets to sleep under

Angry
VettiyaIruken · 05/06/2021 10:57

^Today 10:08orangecinnamon
notacooldad
Compatibility issues here. It really does sound as though you are not compatible.
Yes you could say being abused by someone makes you incompatible.
( being called a cunt a whole and other nasty words) treats her family bad and hurts her sister. Yeah, that sums up incompatable.

This incompatibility nonsense is really giving me the rage!^

You and me both!

Calls her a cunt and a whore, humiliates her, denies her blankets and a hell of a lot more and its compatibility issues?

Yeah, he should find a woman who wants to be treated like that, no Biggie. 🙄 Compatibility issues FFS. Some times I long for a button that can deliver slaps down the internet.

TeeBee · 05/06/2021 11:02

Jesus Christ, he sounds as boring as hell and abusive. Just get rid of him. For the record, being single in your 40s is fucking ace! And you can still be a mum if you get a crack on and stop wasting your time with this boring fucker.

notacooldad · 05/06/2021 11:03

Some times I long for a button that can deliver slaps down the internet
If only!!😂😂

anthurium · 05/06/2021 11:14

It's really sad to read that being in, what seems to be quite a humiliating and antagonistic relationship, is preferable than being single. No wonder people (women mainly?) are prepared to do almost anything to avoid being single.

I'm 39 and currently 12 weeks pregnant via IVF with a sperm donor. I'm extremely lucky. I was married previously, and do remember the social and financial privileges that come with that status, however the marriage was incompatible and we decided to split up so that we can be the people we want and do the things in life that make us happy.

I certainly don't view my single status as 'horrible', it's got its own challenges, one of them being that life is more expensive, other than that, I'm free from judgement from an unsupportive partner and embrace the independence that being single brings as much as possible.

With regards to the IVF treatment, it is certainly an option to use a sperm donor if you wish to go ahead alone, as pointed by other posters. As a single female in England you won't be entitled to NHS funding, so will nave to pay for it privately, but the payment costs can be spread out using a loan (dependant on the clinic).

Good luck with whatever you decide.

SoThisisMe · 05/06/2021 11:15

He's an abusive, controlling twat and although I get that you want children you would honestly regret bringing a baby into this situation. He use it to control you even more, make out you're a bad mother if you ever want time for yourself. Urgh.
Imagine him with a teenage daughter. Or passing his control issues onto a son. Please don't have kids with this man.

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