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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

OP posts:
whitespotsgreenleaves · 26/03/2021 07:49

Actually letting someone sleep isn’t about love. It’s just basic respect

This.

buttercupsarelovelyandyellow · 26/03/2021 07:51

Honestly OP it really doesn't sound like you WANT to leave. People are literally here using lots of energy trying to CONVINCE you to leave. It's YOUR decision. You're free to go anytime you WANT. Take back your power and decide what YOU want to do. Do you want to STAY or GO?

To feel like my life is a prison?
Tankflybosswalkjam · 26/03/2021 08:04


One of the biggest difficulties you’ve got, OP, is that you actually don’t want to have to leave him - you wish he was the husband you wanted him to be so every time something remotely pleasant happens (and what you describe is an entirely normal evening for most people - not worthy of comment), you seize on that as a reason to backtrack. It’s understandable - you’ve been together since you were children.”

^^THIS.

RandomMess · 26/03/2021 08:13

So 5.30am wake up is the cost/punishment for the "normal" evening.

Why is he in charge of bedtime and getting up time rather than you? Why is he the one in charge of everything?

Stratfordplace · 26/03/2021 08:23

I’m getting so angry on your behalf. Tell him to F off next time he wakes you at 5.30 am FFS this is not normal.

Leave him or not, you really need some boundaries in place and to learn to say no to this revolting specimen of a man.

squashyhat · 26/03/2021 08:52

OP I have not read the whole thread - just your comments - but I want to add my voice to the chorus urging you to leave. You can do it and your life will be completely different and much much better when you do.

Megan2018 · 26/03/2021 09:27

That nice evening you had- who cooked, who cleaned up, who got the drinks? Did he lift a finger @namechangeforadvicepls or did you run around doing it all?
Did you choose the TV programme?
Who decided what time you went to bed?

Was it really nice, or was he just not vile to you? Those are not the same things.

wishywashywoowoo70 · 26/03/2021 09:31

Oh god. This thread is breaking my heart.
I remember your other thread too.
This is not in any way normal sweetheart.
You're absolutely able to leave and start again.
Do I remember you had another house you could stay in?
Please love yourself enough to get out.
You've a whole life ahead of you, don't waste it in this ridiculous situation.
DaffodilDaffodil

Balzac20 · 26/03/2021 09:39

A PP has mentioned some male colleagues who used to compare notes about the ways they controlled and tortured their wives. OP, think about what your husband would be writing on ‘domesticabusersnet’, how he’d be laughing at the humiliations he metes out to you. ‘Woke her up at 5.30 again for no reason, lol’. ‘Stopped her seeing her family - nailed it’. ‘Chipped away at her self belief so she didn’t do the course she signed up for and was really excited about, what a chump’.
He isn’t nice, he knows what he’s doing, and what he’s doing is deliberately and systematically humiliating you. Find your anger again and get out of there.

Also, sleep is a physical necessity, like food. If he took away your plate halfway through every meal, you wouldn’t stick around long, would you? That’s what he’s doing by waking you up before you’re ready. It’s inhuman.

Cavagirl · 26/03/2021 09:48

He's not a monster though. He's not a baddie in a Disney film. He had an abusive childhood and it's left him with control issues. I can't get angry with him, as someone else suggested, because I understand why he is like this and I feel so sorry for him and what he went through

I do agree with you that I do have a fairytale view of relationships and that it is a factor that has kept me here. Definitely.

sadly there are many many women in the same boat as OP, they know deep down they need to get out and that their partner is terribly abusive, but they have convinced themselves that’s the love of their life, that they were meant to be etc, they’re just overreacting and DP will have an epiphany one day and be wonderful.

One of the biggest difficulties you’ve got, OP, is that you actually don’t want to have to leave him - you wish he was the husband you wanted him to be

Summarising a couple of your comments OP and a couple of salient points from PPs which I hope is helpful.

Your nice evening is not a sign that he can change and be the fairytale husband you dream of. You cannot fix him and turn him into the man you dream he could be. It's been two decades and he hasn't changed.

To leave you will need to accept that he will never change, and the fairytale will not happen for you with him.

No one is saying that will be easy at all. You will need to grieve for what you have given up on. But do you want to spend the rest of your life hoping in vain for something that will never happen?

whitespotsgreenleaves · 26/03/2021 10:02

I had a friend who worked at a refuge and she said it was confusing for women, as the man they were with often was really nice to them when he wasn't being abusive. That is confusing.
But the times he is nice is part of the abuse. He is using it to control your feelings as well as your actions. He knows that you were feel grateful and happy that he is 'giving' you a nice evening 'together'. He knows that he can control how you feel like this. That he can make you relax your guard a bit and feel grateful and pleased. And that he can make you feel anxious again and that you need to be on hand to do what he wants. Its part of the control. Part of keeping you in your place. Part of keeping you wanting to be with him, because a bit of nice can seem better than a whole load of unknown for someone never allowed to make their own decisions or have their own life, or realise their own capability.

JustDavesWife · 26/03/2021 10:11

Oh my goodness @namechangeforadvicepls I have just read your posts on this thread and I'm so sad for you, it's actually made me feel really claustrophobic reading about how you live.

I hope one day you find the strength to leave this man and live a life that you deserve.

Your sisters and your Mum would probably help you every way they could just to see the back of him and please consider reaching out to a friend even if you have lost contact. I know if a long lost friend contacted me and told me all of this I would be there to help in a heartbeat.

You need to get out because there is a whole other life out there waiting for you. ❤️

Buttonfm · 26/03/2021 10:42

What's interesting OP is that you don't think this behaviour is his fault. You can't get angry at him because you understand how his awful childhood made him like this.

Your kindness and empathy have left you vulnerable to abuse. Lots of people have terrible childhoods but don't become abusers. Even if there is a reason, it doesn't excuse his behaviour. You deserve respect and to be treated kindly. He may appear "nice" at times but that is all part of being controlling. If the abusers were horrible all the time, their other halves would find it much easier to leave.

He is a controlling, jealous, possessive man.

Your relationship is neither normal nor healthy.

I really hope you manage to leave, you deserve so much more.

HeavyHeidi · 26/03/2021 11:11

WildfirePonie I'm worried that this would not even be the main problem. OP's husband could easily decide that baby does not need to be fed when baby wants, but for example at 4-hour intervals. Or he could force OP to put a newborn in their own room and shut the door while the baby cries. I have read stories like that on MN, not making them up.

He had an abusive childhood and it's left him with control issues

But you are not a rehab. And he refuses to do anything to get better. You are not helping him by staying there and being controlled and abused.

namechangeforadvicepls · 26/03/2021 11:14

I’m feeling much stronger today. I think I was just having a bit of a wobble yesterday – after I posted on here, I went back and read all the posts I’d made, and I went through my diary from last year and really reminded myself of everything. I forget everything too easily, like @dery said – I don’t actually want to leave him. I wish more than anything that I could just take away the controlling behaviour, even just to the point where I was allowed to get an outside job; I think it would help me so much.

But I know now that he is never going to change. We had a conversation a couple of weeks ago where he asked if I would ever leave him and I said no, and he said he wouldn’t blame me if I did because he knows he works too much. He literally said he is how he is because of his childhood, but that he wouldn’t change. He said it. He also said “I’d be sad if you left, but I don’t think I would be able to change [my work habits].” As part of the conversation I asked if he would go to counselling, and he said no. He’s been honest with me, his priority is work and he’s never going to change. He doesn't want to.

I thought if I could just be the perfect wife, just do everything he asked, that if I loved him enough, it would help to “fix” him but I think I’ve actually just been enabling him to get worse, both with how he is with me and his workaholicism.

I’ve spoken to the local support team again, I went through to someone different and she was lovely and they are going to help me. They’ve said that it might not be best for me to continue to post on here for now, and I agree, as although I don’t think it would occur to him about me posting on here, and I am extremely careful, he does check my phone and I’ve become a bit paranoid and jumpy around it in case I haven’t logged out properly or something, and I feel like he might start to notice.

Thank you so, so much to everyone for your kind comments and helpful advice. I don’t think I could have gotten to this point without it all and I can't even begin to express how grateful I am that so many people who I am just a stranger to, have wanted to help me. This past week or so since I first posted is the first time I haven’t felt lonely in such a long time.

Thank you. I’ll come back and update in a few weeks when I can.

OP posts:
Apileofballyhoo · 26/03/2021 11:21

Good luck with everything and know there are people on your side rooting for you and hoping you get away and lead a happy free life.

Marshy86 · 26/03/2021 11:25

Hi Op,

I've just read your post from the start and my heart breaks for you, I'm glad to hear you're starting to make some steps in the right direction and I hope you continue to find yourself and a positive future ahead.

Thinking of you and sending strength

Cavagirl · 26/03/2021 11:25

Good luck OP Daffodil

me4real · 26/03/2021 11:29

Keep going @namechangeforadvicepls - you're doing great.

Please let us know how you get on. x

Eddielzzard · 26/03/2021 11:37

You're incredible, you really are. So strong. Flowers

When you feel up to it, let us know you're ok. I often think of the women who have come on here for support and wonder how they are and whether they're in a better place.

DoverSoul · 26/03/2021 11:40

He’s been honest with me

He appears to have been honest with you - do not trust anything he says.

Anyway, hopefully that will be irrelevant. That's such good news that you're getting help - I wish you the very best. It will seem hard at times but you've got good support and when you're out the other side you'll be a different person. Will be thinking of you and sending you strength. I look forward to hearing your news when you're ready to post again. All the best namechange Flowers x

DoverSoul · 26/03/2021 11:43

I often think of the women who have come on here for support and wonder how they are and whether they're in a better place

Hell yes! If it hadn't been for MN I wouldn't have even realised how abusive my ex was. The support I've had on here (and in RL) has been invaluable Smile

NemesiaPinkLagoon · 26/03/2021 11:48

Good luck @namechangeforadvicepls and well done for taking the positive steps seeking support and applying for jobs. Especially phoning the support line again to speak to a different person, I'm glad you had a better conversation the second time. Give yourself credit, it's not easy to do those things for yourself when you're feeling low in confidence.

Keep going and remember there are lots of people here who support you!

Dery · 26/03/2021 12:15

Good luck, OP. You’ve got this. You might want to ask for the thread to be deleted, to be completely on the safe side. Those who have been following will recognise you in any future updates.

billybagpuss · 26/03/2021 12:15

Well done, that’s a positive update and send you all the good luck wishes I can