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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

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Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 24/03/2021 20:28

@LifeInAHamsterWheel

OP please confide in your sister, don't wait until later so as not to be a burden. It really sounds to me like she has the measure of your H and that's why he's decided he doesn't like her. But either way I'm certain she'll be a support to you now if you tell her the truth about how you're living and that you want out. She'll help you get out. There's nothing I wouldn't do for my sister if she confided in me that she was in your situation. Having real life support is invaluable Flowers
This 100%
superwoman232 · 24/03/2021 20:38

@namechangeforadvicepls how easy to write everything off to autism. He's just a c * nt. That's all.

Mournhold · 24/03/2021 20:45

No, autism does not make people act like this. Autism also does not mean a lack of empathy or understanding, in fact sometimes it's the opposite with too many overwhelming feelings.

This isn't poor communication or misunderstanding here, its purposeful aggression and control.

suggestionsplease1 · 24/03/2021 21:05

OP what are you doing to move on from this now?

I am sure you could write until the cows come home with examples of controlling behaviour and nobody would disagree with you, and many could relate and give examples of their own experience.

But what are you doing, action-wise to move on from this to your new life? What is your plan?

Don't be stuck in a narrative, feeding from shared stories and commiserations - define your steps forward and take them.

AmberItsACertainty · 24/03/2021 21:05

A couple of weeks ago he said something about her, and I asked why he didn’t like her anymore, he went on a massive rant about how awful she had just suddenly started being to him (I’ve literally never heard her say anything to him but understandably since then if DH and my sister are together it’s a bit awkward) and he said “she’s just got it in for me, and I don’t know why”

That's pure projection OP. All of that is happening but it's the other way round, it's him doing it to her.

if I met someone living in my shoes (which I have, my sis in law whos married to his brother) i beg and beg for her to leave before she ends up shit deep like I am with kids under her feet too. Shes much younger than me and I keep telling her she will waste the best years of her life with him and look back like we are now. She basically lives the same as I do but hes pressuring her to have a baby now and to take her contraceptive out. I just plead with her not to walk the same road I have. Its just awful

If you leave yogi you'll be giving her an excellent example of how it can be successfully done.

Ah im just disgusted I live this life and OP as well. Im a good decent person who just wanted to be love and in love. I never seen emotional or controlling abuse coming and now I'm 15 yrs in!

This is where assertiveness comes into it. If you've got boundaries and you're maintaining them (using assertiveness) then you'll notice when somebody is trying to break them down. Essentially, you learn to recognise and LTB before you've even got together.

Cavagirl · 24/03/2021 21:11

@LifeInAHamsterWheel

OP please confide in your sister, don't wait until later so as not to be a burden. It really sounds to me like she has the measure of your H and that's why he's decided he doesn't like her. But either way I'm certain she'll be a support to you now if you tell her the truth about how you're living and that you want out. She'll help you get out. There's nothing I wouldn't do for my sister if she confided in me that she was in your situation. Having real life support is invaluable Flowers
Yes I also came on here to say this after your last post.

You say you don't want to burden her. I would ask you gently to think if that's really the reason? Or is it because once you've voiced everything to someone who is a part of your real life, you can't take it back and it means the process of leaving has really started? It's completely understandable to be scared of that. But it sounds like she'd be a great support and I'm sure she'd be very willing to help in whatever way she can.

Lady1576 · 24/03/2021 21:16

The good thing is, you don’t have any children with him and you are missing out on all that fun and joy with your mother and sisters. If you leave him, you’ll instantly get that really good part of your life back, which will make the hard part of being without him much easier to bear. Think through your financial options and test the water with your mother to see what kind of support you might be able to count on.

Apileofballyhoo · 24/03/2021 21:37

@suggestionsplease1

OP what are you doing to move on from this now?

I am sure you could write until the cows come home with examples of controlling behaviour and nobody would disagree with you, and many could relate and give examples of their own experience.

But what are you doing, action-wise to move on from this to your new life? What is your plan?

Don't be stuck in a narrative, feeding from shared stories and commiserations - define your steps forward and take them.

OP made some phonecalls today to DA services. Talking about her experiences here for support and hearing others' experiences I'm sure is helpful too. Courage calls to courage. Even if you crawl you are still moving forward.
namechangeforadvicepls · 24/03/2021 22:59

@suggestionsplease1 OP what are you doing to move on from this now?

I mentioned earlier tonight. I spoke to a DA helpline today who put me in touch with a local service, I’m ringing them tomorrow to go through an assessment with them.

I’m trying to take it one thing at a time, if I think of the bigger picture I feel really panicky. I had a course to go to last time when I was going to leave and could have gotten a student loan to support myself, I don’t have that now and I will also lose my job when I leave him.

We have some assets but we don’t really have any cash at all. I don’t even know where to begin to start untangling all that and the business and it’s too much to think of.

Tomorrow I’m going to do the assessment, find another job to apply for, and make a plan for the next day.

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Tankflybosswalkjam · 24/03/2021 23:02

A solicitor can sort out the assets and the business, and by the sounds of things, any discomfort you have financially would be fairly short lived once your divorce is underway. At least half of everything is yours. Mentally tot up what that is, roughly. Then leave it to the lawyers.

Sunbird24 · 24/03/2021 23:09

OP I just read something that made me think of you, and the other posters in similar situations:
Flowers grow back after they’ve been stepped on, so will you.
Keep yourself safe until you’re ready to get out from under his feet.

namechangeforadvicepls · 24/03/2021 23:10

@cavagirl You say you don't want to burden her. I would ask you gently to think if that's really the reason? Or is it because once you've voiced everything to someone who is a part of your real life, you can't take it back and it means the process of leaving has really started?

You’re right, that’s part of it. I know she would definitely want to help me but I don’t know if she would know how. I couldn’t fully trust her not to tell my Mum, and she has a lot on her own plate at the minute. But yes a big part of it is it would definitely make it all seem too real.p

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namechangeforadvicepls · 24/03/2021 23:12

@Sunbird24 that’s lovely, thank you for sharing it Flowers

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RandomMess · 24/03/2021 23:17

If you go do a refuge they will help you apply for benefits, universal credit will cover the rent etc. This another reason why going into a refuge would be very beneficial because you have no access to money or your current job when you leave.

AmberItsACertainty · 25/03/2021 00:53

Have you anything to sell OP and any ability to sell it without him knowing? I put a bunch of stuff online 2wks before Christmas and by the end of January I'd sold half of it and had £460. If it looks in good condition and you can manage without it for the foreseeable future I'd sell it, if you can. It's surprising what things people want, you only need one buyer. You'll lose some sales for not replying to messages straight away but some people don't mind waiting. Turn off the notifications on your phone though so he's not asking what is it, you'll still get notifications and messages when you log into the app.

gutful · 25/03/2021 02:38

The example with the hen’s night - can see how he would have made out him picking you up & bringing you food/water looked like a sweet gesture - so you feel bad that it created an awkward scene & obliged go side with him as it was so “nice”

But the thing is, it sounds like you actually wanted to travel in the minibus back with the girls. Him insisting to pick you up is controlling & then expects you to feel grateful for something you never actually wanted!

You tend to feel grateful when people are doing something you really needed/wanted

Or you can be grateful for his offer, but decline it as you’d like to travel in the bus & it shouldn’t be an issue for him. But it was, he just had to come & pick you up because HE wanted to.

Plus the other girls were looking at the situation from a 3rd person’s perspective & could sense it was weird, that you were under his thumb by letting him turn up to a hen’s night

Did he let you have fun with the girls or was he messaging you during the event?

They are very skilled at appearing nice & generous, so you feel like a bad person for feeling annoyed with them.

But am sure he doesn’t hesitate to let you know when you’ve annoyed him, or when he would prefer you not to do something.

It clearly doesn’t go both ways so you are unequal in the relationship.

It sounds like your sister would have you round to hers if she knew you were desperate to leave. I understand you feel you can’t confide in her yet, but am confident the sooner you pick up the phone to call her, the less alone you will feel. She has likely been waiting for you to come to this realisation for years! You are not alone.

Also you say you will feel lonely having only co-workers to talk to, but lol at all this support there is for you here! Chances are you could meet some lovely coworkers who you click with in future.

isthismylifenow · 25/03/2021 06:53

Good morning Namechange. I started reading your thread last night, and I just want to say that ever since then you are all I have thought of. You are a complete stranger, but I just wanted to post on here, firstly to let you know that someone on the other side of the world from you just wants you to be free from this situation, I found it very tough to read. I also left a pretty controlling marriage, not to this degree, but I do get how complex looking at the big picture is.

Pp have given you amazing advice and I cant really help from a UK support side or what help is available to you, but haven't you found typing everything out, quite something..... Difficult I know, but also the fact that you have now told someone what is happening.... it confirms it. And then the flood gates open and you remember something else that at the time, didn't seem all that concerning. But put them all together like you have in one post..... it becomes clearer to see. Like being on the outside and looking back in. I know, its terrifying, daunting and every other emotion that goes with it.

I also thought that I wouldn't be able to move on either, everything just seemed like too much hard work at the time, and sometimes its just easier to shut up and put up. Its exhausting thinking everything over and over. I didn't even know I was in a controlling relationship either, not until I posted things here and posters replied with a 'hey up, this isn't normal'. It was normal to me though as I didn't know any different.

I find that in your mind there is a switch. I think your switch has just flicked on, and this is a massive huge step forward.

I am sure I am repeating what other posters have said now, I just couldn't not reply to you. Flowers

Oh, I wanted to add in. One of my friends had the weight loss surgery in the beginning of last year. I think you have made the right decision in cancelling. It has been a major change in her life. She was in agony for the first few days, and I don't think its been as plain sailing afterwards as she thought it would be. I do think that you need to be in a mentally sound place to start that journey.

Again, another footnote..... after my ex and I separated, I lost 10kgs in a really short time. Some of it was from stress yes, but also it was because I could choose what I wanted to eat. If he had a chocolate, I had to have a chocolate. If he wanted rich saucy pastas, I had to have the same. Salads and veg based meals were not allowed. Had to be meat and potatoes / starchy foods at every meal. Now I live on salads and sometime just have a whole plate of veg for a meal (I am not a veggie but I do it, just because I can) and I blast my music while preparing it.... I wasn't allowed to have any music on at all if he was around.

I faltered many times, but I see now that it happened at the right time as I was more mentally ready. There had been that cherry on the top as they say, that prompted everything. Plus everyone here helped me a shitload too.

Hugs to you. Flowers

ByeByeMissAmericanPie · 25/03/2021 07:26

@namechangeforadvicepls - you are amazing 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Well done on speaking to the DA helpline and starting to think about getting another job. I remember days like that, in the beginning, and it’s exhausting. Absolutely exhausting.

I also ‘get’ the not telling family.

It’s like a lock on a canal. It needs to be opened slowly, and under your control. You can’t just swing it open.

And once you’ve really told everyone, then there’s no going back.

As a practical suggestion, as you have access to the company money, could you not just set up another account with the bank, and transfer some money out?

(Or ALL of it? 🤣)

RUOKHon · 25/03/2021 07:30

The example with the hen’s night - can see how he would have made out him picking you up & bringing you food/water looked like a sweet gesture - so you feel bad that it created an awkward scene & obliged go side with him as it was so nice

This is pseudo caring behaviour. Which is another facet of coercive control.

ByeByeMissAmericanPie · 25/03/2021 07:43

Gosh, these abusers are similar!

The ‘needing’ to be kept company the whole bl**dy time. I would go out into the garden and get jobs done. On my own. When he went out, I would have to accompany him to pass tools to him, talk to him...

During the first lockdown, all I wanted to do was go for a walk ON MY OWN. I wasn’t allowed. We would have to walk together. Every day.

Except we didn’t walk together. He’d permanently be about 10 steps ahead. I’m pretty fit, and a similar height. He’d always put distance between us. And then he’d talk to me, facing ahead, and get ‘cross’ because I wouldn’t hear what he said.

I have tinnitus in one ear - which he knew about - so it just augmented my flaw.

He was always having a go at me about my weight. I, too, am losing weight eating what suits my body, at times that work for me.

But he wanted me to have one of those full medical check ups, which would have brought up my high BMI, my high BP, and my high cholesterol. Another stick to beat me with.

So strange that since I moved out, I’ve dropped my BMI by 2, my BP Is absolutely normal, and my cholesterol is dropping too.

Keep at it @namechangeforadvicepls. You can do this. 😉

DoverSoul · 25/03/2021 07:50

It's good to hear how happy you are now, isthismylifenow Smile. It's joyful being able to do what you want, isn't it Smile

namechange well done for what you did yesterday, that's great progress Smile. Good luck with the job!

Can't remember the other stuff I was going to say but have to rush now. sorry. Have a good day everyone, keep strong and keep yourselves safe Flowers

DoverSoul · 25/03/2021 07:52

That's great how well you're doing, ByeBye Smile. A very familiar story too Sad

Cavagirl · 25/03/2021 08:43

It felt weird that he did that and I told him he didn’t have to but he insisted, and he even brought me a bottle of water and a sandwich in the car, so that was a nice thing wasn’t it, so why did everyone else look as weirded out by it as I felt?

Spot on analysis above by @gutful
And it seems weird to others as it's like the act of an overprotective father, not an equal partner.
Insisting on picking you up after a night out and taking you home, having a drink and something to eat in the car, that's what a parent does when you're a teenager. And you cringe and say "God you're so embarrassing" as you're driven off.
That's not how a normal husband behaves towards his 30-something wife.
That's why it looks and feels weird - it's infantilising and controlling. It's actually not a nice thing at all.

Good luck today OP, another day, another little step on your road to freedom.

Bythemillpond · 25/03/2021 13:42

If it was autism then he would act like this all the time and wouldn’t ease off when he thinks he might lose you

That is the key. He knows what he is doing and can control his behaviour

You mentioned in your first posts that you have been trying for a baby for 10 years. Are you sure it isn’t him and not you preventing you getting pregnant. (Not that I would recommend trying for a baby with this guy)
I know someone who was trying for a baby for several years and then found out her husband had a vasectomy in secret. (She now has a new husband and 3 children)

isthismylifenow · 25/03/2021 18:04

How have things been today OP?

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