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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

OP posts:
WildfirePonie · 24/03/2021 07:32

Hope you are OK today and get the chance to call wa.

JeffTheOracle · 24/03/2021 07:57

I hope you're OK OP this must all be hard to come to terms with. Good lick finding the space to call WA today

JeffTheOracle · 24/03/2021 07:58

Good luck not lick!

ForwardRanger · 24/03/2021 08:32

So what happens when you're posting online, is he checking what you're doing (over your shoulder or by snooping)? Does he ask what you're spending time on?

namechangeforadvicepls · 24/03/2021 08:33

@gutful I must have missed this comment when it was first posted.

I do agree with you that I do have a fairytale view of relationships and that it is a factor that has kept me here. Definitely.

I'm sorry that I have posted again after not leaving last time, I do feel really guilty about that and taking up people's time again, I honestly didn't think that people would really remember that thread or me. The last thread just really helped me so much and I have no one, absolutely no one, who I can speak to about this in real life. I've already explained the difficulties with my Mum, I wouldn't burden my sisters with this because they are younger than me and I don't think they would really know what to say. My Mum always seemed meaner to me, but we were all very sheltered and I think a bit immature for our ages in some ways. I have one friend who I see maybe 4-5 times a year, some of those times are with my husband, and I don't feel like I could talk to her either. That's it, they are the only people in my life.

I've had so much support on this thread now and I know a lot is similar but there are some different things been said on this one that have really struck me, like when @cavagirl said a couple of pages ago about to look at relationships on TV, that they are drawn from multiple writers experiences and there is a similarity to them to how a good husband would be. I'd never thought of it like that. And someone else said, that I don't miss previous relationships that have ended. I was only young but I had a boyfriend pre-DH and we'd been going out for three months, he dumped me and I was devastated for a while and I thought I would never find anyone else, but then I've never thought about him since, never missed him or the relationship. And I know it won't be that easy to leave a husband and twenty years but that comment gave me hope that there might come a point where I look back on this relationship and feel the same way.

The last thread made me think I should leave. This thread has made me realise I want to leave.

I know the door isn't locked. I know I could step out of it at any time. But it's just not that easy and I'm scared.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 24/03/2021 08:39

It's ok that you are scared, it's perfectly understandable.

Our reptilian brains tell us to "stay safe" and that is a very strong urge to stick with where you are to stay alive which then overrides your frontal cortex which is the part that understands this is abuse and wants to leave.

That conflict is causing the paralysis - find some phrases to soothe your "flight or fight" response, that you will be ok if you leave. The hurt will pass and you will be okay, that the difficulties will be temporary, that out of pain and difficulties comes growth and happiness.

Keep posting, keep getting in touch with Woman's Aid Thanks

DoverSoul · 24/03/2021 08:49

What Random said.

It takes bravery, sometimes to take the tiniest steps, but you are already taking those steps, namechange, you are already on the path. Once you are much further up the path with preparations in place it won't take quite so much courage to take the leap. You'll still need that courage, but not quite as much as it seems just now.

I hope you get through to WA today.

CecilyP · 24/03/2021 09:02

I'm sorry that I have posted again after not leaving last time, I do feel really guilty about that and taking up people's time again, I honestly didn't think that people would really remember that thread or me.

You’ve absolutely nothing to feel guilty about. It takes courage to make changes when this has been your whole adult life and the only other constant adult in your life gives you no encouragement and totally stifles you.

MMMarmite · 24/03/2021 09:27

You sound so much stronger the last few days OP, it's great to hear you starting to gain rightful anger at how you are being treated.

No need for guilt about posting for support. You're not forcing anyone to read this thread, they're free to scroll on by!

Be careful. You know your partner best, but I worry he could turn dangerous if he knows you're planning to leave. So make your plans in secret, get support and protection, and then get to a place of safety.

Sexnotgender · 24/03/2021 09:36

It’s not easy AT ALL. Anyone judging a woman for not leaving is an arsehole.

It’s such a massive step into the unknown when your confidence has been totally eroded.

yogibear0 · 24/03/2021 09:57

"I know the door isn't locked. I know I could step out of it at any time. But it's just not that easy and I'm scared."

OP thats the way it is for me too. I know everyone is saying to just pack a bag and leave but unfortunately we've grew used to this treatment & isolation & now the outside world seems like a very scary place. Im scared of leaving too but like others have said I don't want to look back when I'm 46 and feel the same way. My thinking until recently was im 35 with two small children how will I cope, how will I socialise with others when I've kids, who will want a 35 yr old single mum of 2 kids (not that I'm wanting another relationship)

But since realising that because he's stopping me from having a life he's stopping my children from having a life or seeing how the outside world is.

I've begged you already not to have kids with him, I promise you the others are right. Its much more suffocating when kids are involved. Your husband sounds like my DH he won't like you going to toddler groups because that means interacting with other people, he will find excuses as to why you can't do this, that or the other with the kids. He will make you out to be a bad mother and guilt trip you all the time.
I know once I do finally leave he will threaten social services etc and will tell the world about something very private within my family that would ruin a certain family member. But im getting to the point of seeing that my children need a life & freedom & happiness. But the fact you don't have kids with him yet really does give you extra freedom. Please I spent 8 yrs trying for my kids with him and as much as I love them it makes it harder to just get up and leave as I now have to think of two other people as well as myself.

Neither of us deserve this treatment. No one does. Both our partners are total pricks

CecilyP · 24/03/2021 10:29

I know the door isn't locked. I know I could step out of it at any time. But it's just not that easy and I'm scared.

It's not surprising you're scared. Making major changes to your life is pretty demanding even if you have support from the people who will be affected by those changes - like leaving home for the first time. So you have the extra burden in this case - actually making the major change and knowing the other person, who you are afraid of, will try to block you.

However, I can't see any other way out than leaving. There doesn't seem to be any way back from the way you live now. He controls all aspects of your life, he makes you get up earlier than you need to, you work full time for him, he makes you watch while he does his paperwork so you can't even enjoy what should be your spare time in simple ways that the rest of us take for granted. You are barely allowed out of the house. Spending the entire day sitting at a desk working then spending the evening at a table watching someone else work cannot be healthy! Even at the beginning of lockdown we were allowed an hour's outdoor exercise! And you are far too afraid of him to change this in any way, so really leaving is the only alternative you have got.

billybagpuss · 24/03/2021 11:05

The last couple of days on this thread i think you have been getting stronger, it’s like the floodgates have opened and you are questioning everything now. Don’t ever feel you can’t post on here, it is giving you strength and people understand it takes time to process everything in your head and that you are not ignoring advice.

How are you getting on today I hope you are alone and able to plan a bit. 💐

oreo2020 · 24/03/2021 11:11

Omg OP, big hugs. Not going to say LTB because I understand it's hard, but please do make little steps to free yourself from this prison.
Go for long walks with dogs, don't answer your phone, put some money aside for yourself. You will strengthen your mental health and will find that everything you dreamed of is achievable and without him.
I may be in a shitty relationship in other aspects, but I have my freedom and independence and that's the best feeling ever. I'd rather be on my own, forever, than suffocated like you are.. but believe me at the age of 36 you are so young and your life awaits you.

RandomMess · 24/03/2021 11:22

This short animation may help you understand why you feel like you can't disobey him. Your reptilian brain is doing its job, you just need to let your frontal cortex override it.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=kv6HkipQcfA

It makes it easier to challenge your thoughts when you understand why you are having them.

RUOKHon · 24/03/2021 11:35

Google the Seligman experiment on learned helplessness. Dogs were caged and given electric shocks at random. Once the dogs worked out that there was nothing they could do to stop the electric shocks, they gave up trying to escape. Even when the door to the cage was open, if they were shocked, they would just whine and lie down instead of run out of the door.

The level of psychological torture you have experienced has resulted in learned helplessness. That’s why it’s so, so hard to just walk out the door. And that’s why you must seek support to help you do it. The support is there if/when you need it. Keep posting here and we can signpost you to help. Do you think you will be able to call WA this week - has he done to work today?

KatharinaRosalie · 24/03/2021 12:01

Thats my first time to meet someone in at least 8 yrs!!

This is literally worse than prison. Much worse.

yogibear0 · 24/03/2021 13:06

@KatharinaRosalie

Thats my first time to meet someone in at least 8 yrs!!

This is literally worse than prison. Much worse.

That was my own comment about my situation. Not OP's but I was just trying to confirm to everyone it basically is like being in prison or you feel like you're still a child being told by a parent you can't do this or that there's no freedom. At 35 I don't feel like an adult even though I'm a mother now to two beautiful children. I dont even have the freedom to decide to take them to the park or bring them for a walk cause ill have to deal with his tantrum later. I just have a constant sick feeling in my stomach every morning I wake up. Everyone has been complaining about the lockdown and isolation. Let me tell you something at least when everything opens again you have the freedom again to go to shops, pubs etc. Me & OP's isolation is STILL going to continue on. Think of how you feel with lockdown not being able to see friends/family go places etc... thats normality for me & OP

I'm finding a lot of strength within me now for my children so they don't live this life. BUT ive still yet to leave but its coming I can feel it in me

DoverSoul · 24/03/2021 13:15

Are you in touch with Women's Aid, Yogi, or someone else who can support you?

KatharinaRosalie · 24/03/2021 13:18

yogibear but what happens if you do what you want anyway and just ignore his silent treatment?

I wrote about my own relationship before and the silent or grumpy episodes were horrible because I was afraid he will stop loving me and was desperate for his approval. Sounds like this ship has sailed for you anyway? What will he do if you treat his 'punishments' like toddler tantrums and just go on with your life?

RUOKHon · 24/03/2021 13:27

I wrote about my own relationship before and the silent or grumpy episodes were horrible because I was afraid he will stop loving me and was desperate for his approval. Sounds like this ship has sailed for you anyway? What will he do if you treat his 'punishments' like toddler tantrums and just go on with your life?

When abusers sense they are losing control of their victims they will often ramp up the cruelty of the punishments - sometimes even to the point of violence. Victims understand this either consciously or subconsciously. That’s how control works. It’s the implicit threat that keeps the victim compliant. Dare the victim put her abuser to the test and see if he will follow through...? It wouldn’t be wise.

I’ve already said this but it’s so important it bears repeating: over 70% of domestic homicides, where a female is killed by her male partner, happen at the point of separation when the woman is trying to leave and the partner realises he has fully lost control of her so he escalates and exerts the ultimate control.

Suggesting that abuse victims stand up to their abusers is irresponsible and dangerous advice. The best thing to do is support victims to escape safely.

cripez · 24/03/2021 13:37

@RUOKHon

I wrote about my own relationship before and the silent or grumpy episodes were horrible because I was afraid he will stop loving me and was desperate for his approval. Sounds like this ship has sailed for you anyway? What will he do if you treat his 'punishments' like toddler tantrums and just go on with your life?

When abusers sense they are losing control of their victims they will often ramp up the cruelty of the punishments - sometimes even to the point of violence. Victims understand this either consciously or subconsciously. That’s how control works. It’s the implicit threat that keeps the victim compliant. Dare the victim put her abuser to the test and see if he will follow through...? It wouldn’t be wise.

I’ve already said this but it’s so important it bears repeating: over 70% of domestic homicides, where a female is killed by her male partner, happen at the point of separation when the woman is trying to leave and the partner realises he has fully lost control of her so he escalates and exerts the ultimate control.

Suggesting that abuse victims stand up to their abusers is irresponsible and dangerous advice. The best thing to do is support victims to escape safely.

This this this.

Escape, but safely.

whitespotsgreenleaves · 24/03/2021 14:31

Suggesting that abuse victims stand up to their abusers is irresponsible and dangerous advice. The best thing to do is support victims to escape safely

Absolutely this.

Some posters here just don't get it. They just don't understand that these men are not normal and don't respond like normal people do.
Those posters have only ever known normal and don't seem to understand that ' you just need to be assertive, like me' just isn't going to cut it with these abusive men.

yogibear0 · 24/03/2021 14:50

@DoverSoul

Are you in touch with Women's Aid, Yogi, or someone else who can support you?
I've finally opened up to my sisters about it who are supporting me and listening to me. They had an idea things weren't right, never really liked him anyway as they could see the kind of person he is but accepted him because I loved him. They want me to leave but are understanding in the fact that it will take time for me to make that leap, but again I can feel it within me that its coming soon. A few times in the last week or two ive almost said the words to him "ive had enough this is over" but then ive retaliated because I am afraid of being alone, I am afraid of him being with someone else and then them acting as a second mum to my kids. But at the same time I need to just get over that and realise on my own I will have more freedom & happiness and so will our children. Im also aware he will involve ss and say the kids shouldn't be with me etc and that does scare me too. My sisters have obviously researched a lot about what I'm going through and are approaching it in nice simple steps for me and just allowing me to open up. I plan to contact WA but its very difficult to do when I've two small kids who are screaming in the background and I cant hear myself think.
yogibear0 · 24/03/2021 14:54

@KatharinaRosalie

yogibear but what happens if you do what you want anyway and just ignore his silent treatment?

I wrote about my own relationship before and the silent or grumpy episodes were horrible because I was afraid he will stop loving me and was desperate for his approval. Sounds like this ship has sailed for you anyway? What will he do if you treat his 'punishments' like toddler tantrums and just go on with your life?

I've done that, like yesterday made the decision to meet a mum with kids the same age as mine. I knew I'd get the silent treatment. When I ignore it, the silence treatment goes on FOREVER until I cave in and ask him why he's sulking. I don't think you understand its the atmosphere it creates within our home when the silence treatment takes place. I dont want my children sensing that atmosphere. My sisters can sense it as soon as they come through the door. Its bizarre I cant quite explain it to you but if ignore his silent treatment it will just carry on and then my children witness their mum and dad not communicating like normal people do