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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

OP posts:
Alreadyinmypyjamas · 23/03/2021 13:07

Oh Jesus Christ.

It gets worse and worse.

I sincerely hope you find the strength to leave and finally start living your life.

We are all rooting for you.

Wanderlusto · 23/03/2021 13:14

I hope you write a book about it when you leave him. You should make some money from all that suffering. He is awful op. Please, please get yourself free.

AgathaX · 23/03/2021 14:09

This just gets worse and worse. I bet there's so much more that you've not even thought to write here too.

I hope you can phone WA tomorrow. You desperately need some support from someone, I hope you get it and can move on from this awful man.

AmberItsACertainty · 23/03/2021 14:28

[quote namechangeforadvicepls]@Totallydefeated It's not that I'm not allowed to read at all, just not around him. I couldn't sit at the table with him while he's working and read because it takes too much of my attention, he wants me to be chatting to him all the time.[/quote]
OP's husband: of course my lovely wife you can read whenever you want, just so long as we're not having a conversation at the time. That's hardly unreasonable is it?

Also OP's husband: I neeeeeeed to chat to you for 18hrs a day or else I'm gonna diiiiiiieee.

So you can read in your sleep then OP, righty-ho, that's perfectly fair.

KatharinaRosalie · 23/03/2021 14:35

Yes the more you keep writing, the more it sounds like an actual prison and not just a figure of speech. You should be able to simply tell your DH that you are planning a day off for your birthday. And then you should be able to go and enjoy and do whatever you want, not to sit and worry about how he will ruin it for you this time.
And the absolute entitlement he feels waking you up in the middle of the night just because? He really doesn't see you as a person but as his posession.

namechangeforadvicepls · 23/03/2021 15:28

@AgathaX that's true. Every time I write something on here, I remember something else that I'd forgotten, or I think "well, if that's bad then does that also mean that this is bad?"

@AmberItsACertainty that made me laugh Grin

OP posts:
CraftyYankee · 23/03/2021 16:27

OP, be prepared for your DH to change his mind and not actually have to go to the office tomorrow. He will be watching your reaction. Try to remain neutral. He wants to see if you are disappointed he will be home. If he gets that reaction he will punish you in some way. I fear he is suspicious that you are waking up and is laying traps for you. Please be careful.

DoverSoul · 23/03/2021 16:45

@CraftyYankee

OP, be prepared for your DH to change his mind and not actually have to go to the office tomorrow. He will be watching your reaction. Try to remain neutral. He wants to see if you are disappointed he will be home. If he gets that reaction he will punish you in some way. I fear he is suspicious that you are waking up and is laying traps for you. Please be careful.
This.
Cavagirl · 23/03/2021 16:51

I think "well, if that's bad then does that also mean that this is bad?"

It's so hard, but perhaps it might help to imagine it happening to someone else, and what would you think then?
Do you watch any soaps or other TV series? Maybe imagine a scene, where what your DH was doing to you was played out. Would that be portrayed on TV, as an example of a happy marriage? How do you see happily married people on TV & in films acting towards each other?
Do they have to ask permission to do things, do they have agency? And particularly, how does a husband behave towards his wife, what does he do and what does he not do?
TV and film aren't the be all and end all of reality but what you see there is multiple different writers trying to portray reality. Almost like lots of data points about what multiple writers imagine - or have experienced - to be a happy relationship, and then they portray their real life experiences in their writing. So if you're missing good examples in everyday life, from your childhood, ask yourself what does a happy relationship on a TV show look like? What sort of things happen in unhappy relationships on TV?
So if, on TV, a husband chucked all the crap out of his car, drove off and left his wife stood on the pavement in her pyjamas to clear it up - would that scene be used to show a happy relationship, an example of normal behaviour? Or a way of showing bad behaviour and a way to make the audience feel sorry for the wife because she's being mistreated?
I think if you can start to use a more neutral lens to judge the right & wrong of what's happening to you and how your husband behaves, it might help.

cripez · 23/03/2021 16:56

I'm really scared for you OP, I feel like you are at risk every minute you remain in that house.

Please let somebody know that you are being abused and controlled. Somebody who can check up on you, and knows your whereabouts.

Somebody you know and trust, or someone from Women's Aid.

SheenMcQueen · 23/03/2021 16:57

Agree with the posters about him perhaps sensing a small change in you and 'testing' you.

As others have said, if he does announce he is staying home tomorrow - try not to unravel visibly. Take it in your stride - you've done this for years, you can do another couple of days.

And if he does go to work, do not leap into action straight away. It's not inconceivable that he might 'forget' something and need to let himself quietly back into the house within the first hour.

In fact, if he does go to work, I would think of a reason to call him twenty minutes later to 'check something' with him. A silly thing about dinner or work that demonstrates you being 'insecure/needy/subservient' all the things he likes as this might lull him back into feeling assured you aren't planning anything. You will also then get a sense of whether he is actually at the office or sitting in the car around the corner waiting to catch you on a call or something.

Keep on keeping on OP. You have the power of many many MNers behind you.

Eddielzzard · 23/03/2021 17:53

I agree. It can be very subtle, a change in your body language maybe. You're feeling the anger, quite rightly. There will be a shift in atmosphere. Be so so careful please Flowers

Rubytinsleslippers · 23/03/2021 18:06

He is horrendous. Just leave. Go to your mum's or an air b n b. Sleep and see it afresh

Balzac20 · 23/03/2021 19:18

Be aware as you make your plans to leave that he might throw everything at making you stay, including making you doubt your ability to cope without him. I really hope that won’t work: it’s clear from the way you write and express yourself that you’re smart. With your brain and your fair share of the assets, you’ll be able to train to be a teacher (if that’s what you decide you want), get a job and support yourself no problem.

LannieDuck · 23/03/2021 19:43

You don't need his permission to take a day off. Just do it. What's he going to do - fire you? Awesome! Then you can get a job you actually want.

...except he won't fire you because he needs you to do his admin. So just take a day off.

Why not take this Friday off? No reason, just because you want to. Sit and read a book all day.

JSL52 · 23/03/2021 21:52

@namechangeforadvicepls

I've just read those threads, they're really positive. I'm just not sure I should take a place from someone who might need it more than me, I don't think of what I'm dealing with as bad enough to take that kind of help.
It really is that bad. Reading your posts (and the last one) makes me feel physically sick. Please get out.
yogibear0 · 23/03/2021 23:27

[quote gutful]@DeathToCovid this is an important (and such a true) comment you’ve made about the perception of the abused woman having a very “fairytale” view of relationships & that they are in the centre of the world’s biggest supposed love story. Full of drama, angst, heartbreak & hurt - you become addicted to the hurt & start to feel hurt EQUALS love. Because if you didn’t love them, they couldn’t hurt you, right?

Have been there, have believed all that. It’s bullshit. Living on your own in peace is a million times better but the hurt & heartache plus the making up becomes an addictive drug which you don’t even want to escape from. They are the only ones who can soothe your hurt, you can’t even heal your own hurt, or believe you can’t

It sucks & once you’re out & see life for what it is it does make you angry to see women “stuck” in this mindset & want to shake them

But the reality is either they will see it for themselves or they won’t. No amount of cheerleading or helpful advice will penetrate her believe that he is her childhood sweetheart, they have come out together despite all the odds & theirs is that world’s most enviable love story

We know she is living in a fog - and deep down so does she but only when she is ready will she perhaps make steps to change her life

That she willingly dropped out of the teaching course tells me she is pretty far gone

Most people here are refreshing the page waiting for some exciting dramatic update that OP has packed a bag & left in the night for a new, better life.

That isn’t happening here, based on her previous post which provided great support but wasn’t heeded.

Over time what sucks is the abused person will keep reaching out to others & people become fatigued.

After 3 or 4 threads people get bored - they will say “oh you again?” And this is how WA also feel. They become exasperated & know their help is a waste of time & pointless

I know it’s sad but people will eventually stop caring OP if you keep coming here to complain but don’t want to do anything

I advise making new usernames for each new thread or people will post stalk & realise you are the same person from other threads.[/quote]
I'm sorry but its people like you that make it difficult for people like me or OP come out and tell people the stuff we are going through, that sort of judgement or like the boy who cried wolf story.

Sometimes its more helpful to listen than to judge especially as to why we haven't left the relationship yet. That listening ear or constant encouragement can help people see through the fog. Me for instance I ended up having kids with my abuser. Yes it did get much more controlling once I had them yet its made me find a voice now. He has been stopping me seeing my family or attending kids hospital appointments etc. There's actually way too much to write about and I don't want to bore anyone like yourself but ive spent almost 20 years with this man. Im the same age as OP. Whilst I have lived through so much shit with him and unfortunately he is now the father to my kids. Im finding strength to leave now for them. He hasn't done anything to them but I know if I leave it much longer they too will have emotional scars. Finally took the courage today to meet with another mum and her kids. I was walking out my door with a knot in my stomach knowing when he found out where I went or net up with someone he wouldn't be happy. Im now getting my usual silent treatment as punishment and the atmosphere in my house is horrible. My kids being here have made me see that they do not deserve to see this or feel this atmosphere or see their mum so incredibly unhappy.

What I'm trying to say is that women like me DO eventually see the light. Yes it does take time to see it and gather the courage to go ( which is now my next & final step) I'm trying to gather that courage and I KNOW I will do it for myself and my children. Please dont make OP feel like she can't come on here to express her shit. Otherwise God knows what would happen.

Shes hear for support and just a wee hand hold. Give that to her. You'll never understand until you've lived in an emotional or controlling relationship. Its the stuff nightmares are made of.

Apileofballyhoo · 23/03/2021 23:30

I'm sorry you're going through that yogibear. I hope you'll be able to figure out the path to freedom as soon as you can.

yogibear0 · 23/03/2021 23:34

Also had the most fantastic time meeting this other mum. Thats my first time to meet someone in at least 8 yrs!! As in meet up for a coffee etc that isn't my sister...
Incredibly proud of myself however sad that may seem. I knew what id have to deal with tonightbut fuck it and my kids just soaked up every second of being in a different home that wasn't ours and playing with other kids their age. They are 2 & 3. Man it was worth it. Smiled so much until DH came home and took into sulking and the silent treatment all because I met up with another female. Sad or what!

RandomMess · 23/03/2021 23:36

@yogibear0 that is so very sad. I really hope you find the strength to flee to a refuge soon Thanks

Apileofballyhoo · 23/03/2021 23:37

I'm glad you enjoyed some normality and it is a huge milestone. Happier times ahead for you when you figure out the logistics of it all.

me4real · 24/03/2021 00:25

I know mumsnet isn't very woo, but I can be sometimes and I do believe that what goes around comes around.

I'm into some kinds of woo, but looking at the world it's really obvious karma isn't real at all. Otherwise all the rapists and child abusers who carry on living happy lives wouldn't. His actions are deliberate- how he humiliated you by making you pick stuff up from by the side of the road in your pyjamas etc, everything he does. He's not a nice person and you leaving is what he deserves.

Oh, I think I just found my anger Grin

That's great, keep going.

Every time I write something on here, I remember something else that I'd forgotten, or I think "well, if that's bad then does that also mean that this is bad?"

Keep going.

This might seem like a tangent/private but how are things sexually? I ask because considering that could be something that helps some people make the break.

But everything you mention is much more than enough. xx

me4real · 24/03/2021 00:36

But the reality is either they will see it for themselves or they won’t.

That she willingly dropped out of the teaching course tells me she is pretty far gone

@gutful - Yogibear is right that this is unhelpful. Making a thread and other consciousness raising, talking to women's organizations and groups does help women see through the fog.

On average women go back to an abuser seven times before they leave, then those women leave. Dropping out of a teaching course is nothing in comparison to going back to an abuser, yet those women are not lost and often leave in the end.

I made a thread about a wrong'un I was seeing and people were claiming I wasn't listening etc, but I was, and actually blocked him quite quickly considering what a large part of my life he was.

@yogibear0 Yay, glad you had a good time. Plenty of that ahead of you, keep pressing forward, you can do it. Smile

Saltedhero · 24/03/2021 06:54

You're entitled to a day off OP even working for your husband. Really hope you realise this man is treating you like his personal slave. Flowers

DoverSoul · 24/03/2021 07:09

I have to agree with the others, gutful, that really isn't helpful. WA are well aware how much effort it takes for an abused woman to leave an abusive man and how often she may go back to him but they, and the women and children they have helped, know their work is not pointless or a waste of time Hmm. There are thousands of women alive now who might not have been if it wasn't for Women's Aid.

Yogi that is so good that you were able to meet your friend. I hope you'll be able to get away from him soon and have as many good times as you like without repurcussions Smile

How are you doing namechange?