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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

OP posts:
namechangeforadvicepls · 23/03/2021 09:56

He's just told me thinks he will have to go into work tomorrow so hopefully I will be able to make some phone calls, including to WA, tomorrow.

OP posts:
Nottheendofthings · 23/03/2021 10:01

I don't know if it's an old wives tale but I feel like I have more grey hairs than I should
Its not an old wives tale. I know a couple of people who went grey at at time of great stress.

Your body is talking to you. The grey hair, the stutter, the lack of a menstrual cycle, the fear response when the phone goes, even the weight gain. Its all telling you the terrible toll existing with this man is taking on you.

Nottheendofthings · 23/03/2021 10:02

@namechangeforadvicepls

He's just told me thinks he will have to go into work tomorrow so hopefully I will be able to make some phone calls, including to WA, tomorrow.
Excellent news OP! Bloody Brilliant : )
SpringCrocus · 23/03/2021 10:06

Please, don't tell him you've cancelled the surgery. That's a day (or longer?) you can legitimately pack a bag for, and then escape from him.

billybagpuss · 23/03/2021 10:11

@namechangeforadvicepls

He's just told me thinks he will have to go into work tomorrow so hopefully I will be able to make some phone calls, including to WA, tomorrow.
Yesss. We are all behind you.

If half of everything is yours, presumably it’s joint accounts. When you leave if possible move some money into an account in your own name, or get cash to give you some immediate accessible funds. Then call the bank to let them know the account is in dispute as you are splitting up. You then have to both agree to any spends so he can’t empty the lot and hide it from you. Take copies of the business accounts too.

Then call a solicitor, whilst your hope of getting the house upthread are very reasonable, he’s unlikely to want to, let your solicitor do the talking and negotiating, start looking at Rightmove and see what you like, imagining yourself being able to decorate it completely to your tastes.

namechangeforadvicepls · 23/03/2021 10:16

Thinking more about the stress situation, I never get a break from it either.

If we go on holiday, I usually find those very stressful as DH tends to sleep poorly (meaning I do too) and I can't read by the pool or anything, he likes to walk a lot and we usually end up walking 10+ miles a day every day and I end up in pain as although I do love walking that's a lot for me.

He also won't let me have holiday days. Our industry shuts down over Christmas so I get about 10 days off then, and the Easter weekend. But before I started working for him we agreed that I could have five holiday days to use when I wanted but he never lets me take them.

Last year, I told him about a month prior that I wanted my birthday off and he said "what do you want that off for". My friend wanted to take me for a picnic so he reluctantly agreed to let me have a half day. But it spoiled it in a way, she'd got us a really lovely one and I was so touched about it, but I didn't end up enjoying it because I felt so guilty and anxious about having the time off and scared he was going to ring me and I think I was probably terrible company. My mum and sisters all were going to have a day trip to the coast but he wouldn't let me have the day off for that, again despite me giving a months notice and knowing full well it wouldn't have any kind of negative affect on work.

He will ask me to do a work related task at 11pm, or wake me up at 4:30am because he can't sleep to ask me something about work or make a note of something. It's just a constant feeling of stress and being on edge.

OP posts:
Nottheendofthings · 23/03/2021 10:23

Just imagine how great it will be when you can have lovely picnics with friends and days out and lie ins. When you can be free of that constant sense of stress and anxiety and dread. When that tension in your body can be released.

Fnib · 23/03/2021 10:24

Oh my goodness, just reading your updates Flowers 💕

So much coercive control going on here. I don't think you'll ever be able to unsee it now.

Do take advantage of having him out tomorrow to call woman's aid.

DeathToCovid · 23/03/2021 10:29

The more you post OP the more it scares me and makes me feel completely suffocated, like I can’t breathe. This is not how a relationship should be, you’re controlled, abused, used and worn down. This IS abuse, really terrible abuse, and in some ways much worse than physical abuse because it’s ingrained into you.

You’re likely not getting pregnant naturally because your body is in a state of consistent stress, anxiety, worry, and panic.

Please this this odious man OP. You can and you will have a beautiful life without him!

Hammer19 · 23/03/2021 10:31

I am very shocked by this. A 'normal' employer wouldn't ask you why you wanted a day off work. They certainly wouldn't refuse a day off work because they didn't approve of your plans. Please understand that none of this is normal, you are being thoroughly controlled

Tankflybosswalkjam · 23/03/2021 10:32

God I feel breathless with the updates! You seem to want him to “approve” of your taking a day off. He’s never going to approve of anything that doesn’t benefit him. So that’s something to be aware of.

As for waking you up at 4:30am, how have you not exploded? Jesus.

Shallow07 · 23/03/2021 10:33

Reading your thread is so scary and heartbreaking OP. You deserve trips to the coast with your family, to meet a friend, to read a book when you fancy it. Really basic, simple pleasures Sad please call WA tomorrow. I hope you can get away from this awful man very soon and start living your precious life rather than just existing Flowers

Shallow07 · 23/03/2021 10:37

By the way, you don't need his approval for anything you want to do. Honestly, you don't. Every tiny decision you make for yourself is a step towards autonomy. I believe in you.

Apileofballyhoo · 23/03/2021 10:37

I bet you can't ever relax even when you are away from him because you are so worried about how he is going to be when you go back, even if he doesn't phone, or even if he does phone, or just waiting for him to phone. I know it well, OP. I'm so sorry.

And I bet if you are invited somewhere it's a big ball of stress even if you want to go. Because you have to go through the interrogation first, you have to think of reasons to be allowed to, you have to listen to the criticism, you have to bear the guilt of not letting down the person that invited you and the false guilt he imposes on you.

When I spilt up with my boyfriend my friends all said it was like having the old me back.

This is all so terrible.

CatRamsey · 23/03/2021 10:41

Oh OP, I don't know where to start.
I recognised you instantly from your last post. I always remember it because I was so hoping you would be able to get out and my heart broke for you when you felt you couldn't do it.

The fact that you are posting here yet again shows that you know this isn't right. You've even said multiple times that you want to leave. You can do this OP, you can. And we will help you.

I'm so glad you cancelled the surgery. I'm hoping you get chance to call Womens Aid tomorrow whilst he's at work. Have a think about what you want to say when you call them.

I'm so sorry about your fertility issues, but perhaps see it as a blessing in disguise. Having a baby with this man would make things 100x worse. You can still have your family. You don't want to be in this same position in 5, 10 years time where your chances of starting a family will be much less.

As much as you want a baby, do you want a baby with him? I have PCOS and struggled to conceive with my ex. Things weren't great in our relationship and there was one point when I thought I was having pregnancy symptoms. All I felt was fear. I realised that as much as I wanted a baby, I didn't want one with him. We broke up shortly after and I am so, so glad I am not tied to him by a child.

I don't have any advice that hasn't already been given by the fantastic pps. But I am routing for you. Honestly OP I wish I could come and save you myself.

Best of luck xx

crackingcrackers · 23/03/2021 10:45

He is very, very controlling.

Good luck with your call to WA, I hope they help you.

Could you show this thread to your mum so that she gets a clearer picture of who he is? It sounds like she'd help you.

I really hope you can get away from him quickly.

crackingcrackers · 23/03/2021 10:51

Sorry, I just remembered you saying that you're mum was controlling too.

Baileysandcream · 23/03/2021 10:52

I'm so pleased you are finding your anger, I feel so angry for you.

You are entitled to take time off work, I'm pretty sure he is breaking employment laws by not allowing you to take your full paid leave.

After you have worked an 11 day, you should have the freedom to chill out and relax in whatever way you choose. You should be able to read a book in a comfy chair. Listen to whatever music you want to. Watch whatever you want to on the TV. Take a bath, go for a walk.

You should be able to leave the house and go for a walk and take some exercise whenever you feel lke it.

You should be able to spend the money you have earned working a 11 hour day on whatever you want to.

You should be able to call, visit, spend time with your friends and family whenever you want to.

You should be able to make your own decisions about what you want, you should be able to have your own opinions.

You should not have to need or ask permission to do any of these things.

He is treating you like a live-in slave and you deserve so much more than this.

I know that leaving must seem very scary, but imagine how different and so much better your life would be without this constant stress and worry. The simple freedom of being able to have a lie in and get up when you want to and not being at his constant beck and call.

You are still so young, you can find your inner strength and you can get help to get away from this miserable existance.

When he is at work tomorrow, can you ring your sisters for support? Tell them to read this thead so they can understand what you've been through?

cripez · 23/03/2021 10:54

I thought of you this morning OP when I popped to the shop after dropping my son off at school.

I thought about how even doing something like that is probably very difficult for you.

If we can help you in any way please let us know, you deserve to live.

Balzac20 · 23/03/2021 11:00

The more you say the more horrendous it sounds, I do hope you’re keeping a list. I don’t know how your business is structured but if he’s your employer he’s acting illegally. Annual leave exists for a reason, working hour restrictions exist for a reason, it’s no wonder you’re suffering physically from this torture. As others have said, you’d have more freedom in prison
www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights

DoverSoul · 23/03/2021 11:36

@Llamasally

Not sure if this has already been suggested - but don’t tell him the surgery is cancelled. Pack a ‘hospital’ bag, get dropped off, then use the bought time to see a solicitor and get things in order. By end of day you can ring him to pick you up and say you got cold feet when they went through the forms/they cancelled it due to a staffing issue - whatever. You have an opportunity of a day where you can be gone and he can’t get hold of you...
Good idea, Llamasally.

Bloody hell, namechange, I've just read what you said about him not allowing you to take your holiday days off. WTAF. Who the fucking hell does he think he is? This gets worse with every post Angry

You said upthread that you used to be a lot worse, you'd have lots of arguments but those aren't as bad now. Is that because you don't respond to his goading anymore?

I really hope you can speak to WA tomorrow, if you have to leave a message tell them how urgent it is as he doesn't leave you alone for a minute when he's home. Do not downplay it, you need help, sooner rather than later. You can do this Flowers

RandomMess · 23/03/2021 11:44

Can you contact WA via email or Webchat?

KatherineSiena · 23/03/2021 11:56

I too recognised you from your last thread and haven’t commented thus far as I would just be expressing the shock and horror that everyone else has.

But your comment about being prevented from taking holiday is awful. Didn’t he promise you a day off a week or an afternoon to do crafts or something when the teacher training issue came up? I presume that dropped by the wayside. This is such controlling behaviour, I do hope you can find the strength to get away from him. 💐

Buttonfm · 23/03/2021 12:00

It sounds like modern day slavery, but he's convinced you it's all normal and acceptable in a marriage: it isn't acceptable in or out of a marriage.

cripez · 23/03/2021 12:12

I went to the WA site and looked up coercive control.

Your situation is textbook OP.

It isn't all in your head.

'How do you know if this is happening to you?
Some common examples of coercive behaviour are:
• Isolating you from friends and family
• Depriving you of basic needs, such as food
• Monitoring your time
• Monitoring you via online communication tools or spyware
• Taking control over aspects of your everyday life, such as where you can go, who you can see, what you can wear and when you can sleep
• Depriving you access to support services, such as medical services
• Repeatedly putting you down, such as saying you’re worthless
• Humiliating, degrading or dehumanising you
• Controlling your finances
• Making threats or intimidating you'

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