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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

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billybagpuss · 22/03/2021 16:48

Ok assets: if the split as you suggest leaves him better off it certainly sounds reasonable. But Get a good family lawyer they will guide you through. Also don’t forget pension entitlement, if your position is correct and formal you should have company pension, but if it’s been more informal you will have entitlement to a portion of his as you have been facilitating him in the business.

As for the business I think you escaping a coercive abusive relationship is more important, with what you do for the business could a temp do it for a few days?

I agree with the idea of a refuge if you can, but you may need to find somewhere for the dog for a while.

Take things one step at a time, do you have access to funds in your own name that he can’t block you from. Maybe get some cash together if you can. Then get yourself somewhere safe an contact a solicitor.

Ginsodden · 22/03/2021 16:57

I have never read a more chilling account of coercive control. You have no agency, no self determination, even slaves have more autonomy.

I guarantee his abusive behaviour will escalate even further if you get pregnant. You exist to meet his needs, he cannot share you with anyone. He will be so threatened by a baby.

You must not bring a child into your cage. I wonder if there is a subconscious part of you that knows this and sabotages your chances through your weight...

I hope in time you manage to safely leave x

Nottheendofthings · 22/03/2021 16:57

Ok assets: if the split as you suggest leaves him better off it certainly sounds reasonable

See, I worry about this. This guy is not normal. He does not view things as normal people do. He has spent 20 years controlling OP. He has spent 20 years not viewing her as a person entitled to any autonomy at all. I find it hard to believe that he will agree to her having the house and then just leave her alone to get on with her life.

Stratfordplace · 22/03/2021 17:14

Nottheendofthings me neither, he will try to see Op without a penny. Actually I’m worried she is in danger, as he has changed his work pattern since this thread.

yogibear0 · 22/03/2021 17:14

I've bookmarked this thread to read it properly later ive literally read the first page.

OP you have literally wrote my life on your own post!

I'm with my partner 15 years and looking back now if someone give me an optionto go back id grab it with both hands and have stayed clear from this man. Its been so toxic. Likes to degrade my family as well that ive now had to pull away. We too struggled to have kids for just over 8 yrs but I was one of the lucky ones who did eventually have her miracle. I had two only a year apart. BUT since having kids he has controlled my life in ways that I did not see coming! I was really controlled beforehand like you but it has gotten much worse which I didnt think could happen and whats scary is that I can see how to will affect my children if I stay. My daughter might have Autism and he refuses to accept that and has been controlling me in stopping going to appointments with her. Until I put my foot down a few days and began taking her but im paying a price for that!

DO NOT have children with this person. Im not even allowed to bring my kids to my parents house unless he is with me!
Seriously don't have a baby with him. I cant advise you enough. He will constantly tell you you're a bad mother and threaten social services etc when you try to leave.

Don't procreate with him. Leave him pleaee

MMMarmite · 22/03/2021 17:30

@yogibear0 that sounds awful. I hope you are accesing support to get away from him

AmberItsACertainty · 22/03/2021 17:55

think op it is best to give him no warning or hint you are planning to leave and honestly i think a refuge would be best , he has got a temper and gets irate if he thinks you arent going to obey him so this is a big red flag

Yeh this. And don't tell him you've cancelled the surgery either, that's such a big step and when you consider his reaction to something minor during a phone call and how much he's ramped up control just over that, it's scary. I think you're going to need to be gone by the date of the surgery TBH, I'm concerned for your safety when he finds out about that.

MidsummerDreaming · 22/03/2021 17:59

@namechangeforadvicepls This is just so heartbreakingly sad.
OP love really doesn't feel like this. Really. It just doesn't!

KatharinaRosalie · 22/03/2021 18:01

He will constantly tell you you're a bad mother and threaten social services etc when you try to leave.

Yes, that what is happening to my friend whom I mentioned earlier. Not-so-D-H uses the children to get her to stay. Of course she's been convinced that she can't manage herself anyway, but he also says that he would call social services, as her mental health is too fragile and she would be a danger to children if he wasn't there. BS of course, any mental health issues are caused by him and him alone.

AmberItsACertainty · 22/03/2021 18:05

@yogibear0 please don't let threats of social services put you off leaving your abusive partner. They will be used to idiots like him. They'll be able to see you're attending appointments, taking them to school, feeding and clothing them and all the other stuff mum's do. They won't take the DC off you because he stopped you doing those things while you were together as long as you do everything a mum should after you've left him. In fact if they knew of your situation social services might be wanting to remove your DC unless you broke up with him, because of him stopping you going to medical appointments.

Nottheendofthings · 22/03/2021 18:27

@yogibear0

I really hope this thread has helped and that you get the support you need to escape your abusive partner. Flowers

You and other posters who have posted your own experiences have been really brave to do so. Its quite affecting to see women in terrible situations reaching out to other women like this.

billybagpuss · 22/03/2021 18:33

@Nottheendofthings

Ok assets: if the split as you suggest leaves him better off it certainly sounds reasonable

See, I worry about this. This guy is not normal. He does not view things as normal people do. He has spent 20 years controlling OP. He has spent 20 years not viewing her as a person entitled to any autonomy at all. I find it hard to believe that he will agree to her having the house and then just leave her alone to get on with her life.

Oh I completely agree, but it is still a reasonable offer from OPs side. But she absolutely needs a solicitor to do the talking for her so once she’s gone she has as near to zero contact as possible.
yogibear0 · 22/03/2021 18:45

yes Amber thats flashed in my head a few times. I think what actually put that in my head was that I finally made an appointment to speak my gp regarding my mental health (yet I know whats causing my poor mental health) him obviously. She asked me that very question " what do you think is making you so unhappy" I immediately wanted to jump in and explain my situation and that I know that's where my unhappiness lies but while taking a moment to reflect before answering her I had this massive flash in my own head of what if she thinks social services should get involved. It immediately made me pull back from giving the actual truth. So I was trying to reach for help until that came into my head and scared the life out of me. Im a good mum, I love my children. As much as I hate what dh does to me he does love the bones of his children. Hes finding to very difficult to take hearing our child may have autism and ive been told by my daughters gp thats very common. But I WILL not miss any appointments for him. Im starting to find a voice in me for her and she will attend every appointment thats needed.

He isn't a fantastic partner but he really does love the kids. Thats why the thought of social services scared me. Neither of us would harm those kids. But I also understand that letting them see their mum being controlled isnt very good for them by any means. Hence why I'm going to change that. Im just trying to make the stance now to do it.

Nottheendofthings · 22/03/2021 18:55

@yogibear0
I suspect your partner loves what those kids mean to him. Which is different from loving them in their own right, which would mean he could put them before himself. If he really loved them he would not be making their mother unhappy as he would realise they need a happy mother. If he really loved them he would not threaten their mother with social services and having their mother removed from their lives. That is not love.

And don't be scared of social services. I let my GP make a social services apptp cebn

Cavagirl · 22/03/2021 20:07

I think the reality at the moment will be a bit different due but gives an idea x

Cavagirl · 22/03/2021 20:07

*due to covid

namechangeforadvicepls · 22/03/2021 21:28

I've just read those threads, they're really positive. I'm just not sure I should take a place from someone who might need it more than me, I don't think of what I'm dealing with as bad enough to take that kind of help.

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RandomMess · 22/03/2021 21:37

@namechangeforadvicepls your situation really is that bad.

He is killing you mentally, you are barely clinging on.

SoloJazz · 22/03/2021 21:55

@namechangeforadvicepls

I've just read those threads, they're really positive. I'm just not sure I should take a place from someone who might need it more than me, I don't think of what I'm dealing with as bad enough to take that kind of help.
Trust them to make a decision about how bad it is!! They've seen it all and I'm fairly certain they'll have no doubt you need their help. You really need to want to get out.
ForwardRanger · 22/03/2021 21:57

@namechangeforadvicepls

I've just read those threads, they're really positive. I'm just not sure I should take a place from someone who might need it more than me, I don't think of what I'm dealing with as bad enough to take that kind of help.
Your situation is that bad. That you cannot see this speaks to how damaged you are.
Cavagirl · 22/03/2021 21:57

They won't offer you a place if your situation doesn't warrant it.

You don't need to decide that, it's not on your shoulders.x

Baileysandcream · 22/03/2021 22:00

@namechangeforadvicepls

I've just read those threads, they're really positive. I'm just not sure I should take a place from someone who might need it more than me, I don't think of what I'm dealing with as bad enough to take that kind of help.
If you speak to WA they will be able to advise you and let you know their views on your situation. I suspect they will take it very seriously and will want to help you leave as soon as possible.

You mentioned not wanting to tell your mum anything until you're ready to go. What about your sisters, do you feel able to confide in them?

EarthSight · 22/03/2021 22:14

@namechangeforadvicepls

I've just read those threads, they're really positive. I'm just not sure I should take a place from someone who might need it more than me, I don't think of what I'm dealing with as bad enough to take that kind of help.
Well don't then, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't leave.

Your posts come across like someone who's given up hope, maybe believes they don't deserve to leave. There is much laughter and light out there OP. A good future is waiting for you.

The first step is to reach out to friends and if you don't get the response you need, contact Women's Aid. If you pressed the seriousness of the situation to them or your family, you could leave tomorrow. It will be surreal. The first 2 months will be the hardest, but it will even out after that. I don't think your husband views you as an equal, more like a child/employee. It's not your job to fix him. It's not your fault if he had a shitty childhood. I understand how hard it will be when you feel really isolated and it's been so long since you've exercised some autonomy, but it's possible. Having a child in this relationship will probably make you feel worse, not better.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 22/03/2021 22:36

What happens on the days he WFH? Do you have to stay in with him? I'm a bit concerned that he knows about this thread but I hope I'm wrong. Please try to get out and make that call to WA