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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

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Stronghold · 22/03/2021 12:45

OP, I think you have been unconsciously fighting this in your own way. You want a baby but you've been putting on weight while knowing it stops conception. You've been obeying his commands while thinking these things through and talking about them here. With every post you make, you are clearly pushing past the mental exhaustion of saying these things out loud, when your brain knows it's easier to forget.

You're tired, you're scared and you're feeling very small inside - but you're also very clearly a fighter and you can do this.

It usually takes a few attempts to leave an abusive situation, so don't feel bad about the last time.

It doesn't matter if he's a monster or a villain - in a way I think its worse; there are no such things, just people who behave abusively even though they know better.

Are you being careful about your tracks on mumsnet? Wiping history from phone etc?

cripez · 22/03/2021 13:13

You know what? It might not be the weight stopping you conceiving. It might be stress. Depression. Your body knowing something isn't right.

I conceived three times while obese. Carried two babies full term. When I was skinner and miserable I lost my periods for two years.

DoverSoul · 22/03/2021 13:19

Well done for cancelling the surgery, I'm so pleased to hear that Smile

This is the first in many positive things you can do for yourself to change your life - go girl! Flowers

I'm not going to be able to speak to WA today as he's decided to work from home today.

Are you being careful about your tracks on mumsnet? Wiping history from phone etc?

Good point.

SheenMcQueen · 22/03/2021 13:27

Good afternoon OP. Just swinging by as this is the first post I check each day. It's the one that matters most to me as you are the MNer I am most rooting for right now.

@Balzac20 post was so right. That idea that you are so used to need permission and assurance is definitely one of the reasons you are finding it so hard to leave. I recognise that inability to make or trust your own decisions after years of not choosing what you 'want' but what you know someone else wants you to choose - for the sake of peace.

Well now it's time to choose what you want and those things you are worried about - it being worse/more lonely etc, that is the voice of your H in your head. To you it feels like it's your thoughts, but it's just the things he has conditioned you to think if you know what I mean? He has spent so long working on you that you now think the way he wants you to because he has eroded your sense of self. The good news is it's all fixable and the sooner you leave, the sooner you can start to do the work and be you again.

You have permission to leave by every single person on this thread.

Balzac20 · 22/03/2021 13:31

OP you’ve moved me to donate to WA, and I’m sure many others will have done the same. So don’t worry that you’re taking WA resources, because in fact through your bravery in speaking out you’re helping them get funded

namechangeforadvicepls · 22/03/2021 13:34

@stronghold @cripes

It's interesting what you said about why I'm not conceiving. I don't conceive because I have such extremely irregular periods, and I know that can be down to stress and I also know people who have conceived when their BMIs have been higher than mine. I'm sure my weight doesn't help but other things might be factors too.

When I imagine having a baby I always just imagine me having a baby, imagining DH for example in the delivery room or something just makes me feel stressed. I agree with what everyone has said about how he might be when we have a baby, I think he would love a baby to bits but when it got to being a teenager, and they got their own personalities and had their own opinions, I can imagine it causing huge problems.

I can imagine if we had daughters that he just wouldn't like their partners at all and we'd end up no contact with them, or he'd control me seeing them. The things I imagine a family doing, the barbeques or group holidays, he probably would not want to do them. He's no contact with his family and he doesn't have any friends.

I know I said we've been TTC for 10 years, which we have in a way, but also there have been times in that period where I've thought that I don't want to bring a baby into this. We aren't actively TTC now either.

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BotanyBetty · 22/03/2021 13:56

'I can imagine if we had daughters that he just wouldn't like their partners at all and we'd end up no contact with them, or he'd control me seeing them. The things I imagine a family doing, the barbeques or group holidays, he probably would not want to do them. He's no contact with his family and he doesn't have any friends.'

A friend of mine has a DH like this. When they were young he used to get his mother to drive past their house to check whether she had gone out, amongst other things. They are still together, now retired, and he does not really even want to see his own children and grandchildren. When she goes out he doesn't even eat. He wants her all to himself, to share in his misery.

It is difficult OP. I know lots of people on this thread have recommended counselling and I agree. It will help you to regain your sense of self, which will help you to get out.

FWIW, when my DH was at his most controlling my periods went totally weird. I didn't have proper ones, just bled on and off for the whole month. This went on for a number of years and I had all sorts of investigations; no cause was ever found. After he moved out my periods returned to normal almost immediately. My body clearly recognised the toll my marriage was taking before my mind did.

Nottheendofthings · 22/03/2021 14:05

I think if you had children he would make sure they had no friends either. He has no friends, he seeks to break up your friendships, so they would have no friends. Young children provide mothers with a chance to make new friendships and supports and he is not going to allow that is he? Young children nowadays tend to rely on their parents having friends for them to have friends.

billybagpuss · 22/03/2021 14:11

You’ve known this is wrong for 10 years or more. People here are incredible when it comes to helping with advice. Hope this will give you the courage you need.

namechangeforadvicepls · 22/03/2021 14:46

I had a list of people I was hoping to speak to but he's just told me he's working from home all week.

If I do decide to leave, what do I do once I've gone? In regards to our assets, working for the business, etc. Who would I speak to to get information about that kind of thing, would it be a solicitors? In an ideal world I would keep our house and the dog and give him everything else, he would end up a bit better off than me but if it made things easier then I wouldn't mind but would that even be possible? And if so how long would it be until I was allowed to change the locks etc?

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Balzac20 · 22/03/2021 14:53

Yes it’s a solicitor, google ‘family law’. They’ll talk you through it all. If you don’t ‘click’ with the first one, shop around. I found mine to be very kind, patient and helpful.
If the wifi router had an accident with a cup of tea, would he have to stop working at home for the week?

Nottheendofthings · 22/03/2021 14:54

He's guessed something is up and he is doubling down. Perhaps because you stood up to him on the phone. Presumably he can't work at home forever so you will get a chance to make calls. Once you can call women's aid you will be able to get all the advice you need and who you need to speak to.

I am no expert but personally if I were you I would not expect to stay in the house and I would not want him to know where I was living. I would want a clean break so that I was free from all his attempts at control.

Stronghold · 22/03/2021 14:59

Yes he's doubling down. What a shit.

Can you go and see your mum? Say she's not well and make calls from there?

SoloJazz · 22/03/2021 15:03

@namechangeforadvicepls

I had a list of people I was hoping to speak to but he's just told me he's working from home all week.

If I do decide to leave, what do I do once I've gone? In regards to our assets, working for the business, etc. Who would I speak to to get information about that kind of thing, would it be a solicitors? In an ideal world I would keep our house and the dog and give him everything else, he would end up a bit better off than me but if it made things easier then I wouldn't mind but would that even be possible? And if so how long would it be until I was allowed to change the locks etc?

Contact women's aid or refuge online www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/ (scroll down for a live chat), they'll help you with everything. If I were you, I'd go to refuge, they'll provide all practical support and will guide. You'll have your own support worker. Good luck!!
SoloJazz · 22/03/2021 15:04

Will guide you*

www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/

Hope the link works

namechangeforadvicepls · 22/03/2021 15:06

I can't really involve my Mum until right at the point where I have to go. I don't really want to get too much into why because I think it would be a bit too outing. But I don't want her to know too much, I could stay with her in a worst case scenario though although the bits she does know she doesn't think warrants leaving.

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CecilyP · 22/03/2021 15:12

I think he would love a baby to bits but when it got to being a teenager, and they got their own personalities and had their own opinions, I can imagine it causing huge problems.

I think the problems would be there from the get go if you had a baby. At the moment you are keeping him happy by giving in to him at every turn. Babies are demanding little creatures so you would no longer be able to put his needs first. No longer being at his beck and call would make him very angry and life would be harder than it is now.

The not going to your friend’s little party is just so sad. You’d probably have enjoyed it but even if it had been the dullest party of your life, so what, it was just one afternoon and yet he stopped you going.

I hope you get help from WA to help you to leave. You fear loneliness but, even if you are lonely for a bit, that will pass as you fill your life with new friends and activities that do not centre around him.

yetmorecrap · 22/03/2021 15:14

OP, I’m
In a very similar situation to you in so many ways, including working with H, except I have 20 years on you . (And I did have children) . It all crept up very gradually and one day the rose tinted glasses fell away, someone I know heard my H speak to me in public and when he had walked off said to me quietly ‘your H is a bully to you ’ - except I was mid 50s by then . Please don’t be me.

Lovewineandchocs · 22/03/2021 15:31

I can't really involve my Mum until right at the point where I have to go. I don't really want to get too much into why because I think it would be a bit too outing. But I don't want her to know too much, I could stay with her in a worst case scenario though although the bits she does know she doesn't think warrants leaving
I think every bit of it warrants leaving! Can I ask, does your Mum know he actively keeps you away from her and the rest of your family?

KatharinaRosalie · 22/03/2021 15:34

I think he would love a baby to bits but when it got to being a teenager, and they got their own personalities and had their own opinions, I can imagine it causing huge problems.

Babies are also not cure cuddly dolls. My 2 year old certainly had many, many opinions.

And they are hard work. I can already imagine how you are forced to walk with a screaming baby outside in the middle of the night, as his sleep can't be disturbed, but how he will be banging around and demanding you get up after you have had 20 minutes of sleep in the past 24H..

Nottheendofthings · 22/03/2021 15:46

Personally I would go to a refuge not your Mum's, being as your Mum is also controlling of you. As PP said, at a refuge you would get a support worker giving you the practical and emotional support and advice you need to rebuild yourself and your life.
Why not consider planning what you could pack (identity documents etc), contact women's aid by phone or online when you are able, then you can decide if you are ready to leave and if they have a space, you can pack and leave when he is next out of the house.

frazzledasarock · 22/03/2021 16:03

@namechangeforadvicepls

That should say: He doesn't like it if I read a book
Abusive ex hated when I read books, he used to say I should be doing things around the house or resting not reading books which was a useless activity (apparently).

He also hated that I was more educated than him, he tried to get me to quit university and then would attempt to make me fail my exams by spending the night I had exams arguing about crap.

Leave him, seriously leave him.

MMMarmite · 22/03/2021 16:15

@Nottheendofthings

Personally I would go to a refuge not your Mum's, being as your Mum is also controlling of you. As PP said, at a refuge you would get a support worker giving you the practical and emotional support and advice you need to rebuild yourself and your life. Why not consider planning what you could pack (identity documents etc), contact women's aid by phone or online when you are able, then you can decide if you are ready to leave and if they have a space, you can pack and leave when he is next out of the house.
Completely agree with this. Sounds like your mum is not going to be good emotional support for you. In a refuge you would be among staff and other women who understand what abuse is like. They will help give you the strength to stay away from him and build a new life.
namechangeforadvicepls · 22/03/2021 16:24

@Lovewineandchocs I think every bit of it warrants leaving! Can I ask, does your Mum know he actively keeps you away from her and the rest of your family?

Not really. I think she thinks DH can just be a bit miserable and that's why we don't go to a lot of things. She knows he doesn't really like my sisters partners. She possibly thinks I don't want to go either. If we do go to something we always are the first to leave, and DH doesn't drink and it's just easier for me not to drink too. I think sometimes they're probably relieved we don't go as well.

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chaosrabbitland · 22/03/2021 16:35

@namechangeforadvicepls

I haven't caught up with the posts on this thread yet, not been able to come on all day. It's been a weird day.

@lightofthetrees I've just started watching this now, I'm 8 minutes in and I feel sick to my stomach. The look on this poor girls face, she just went to apologise to her partner for basically nothing and it was practically word for word a conversation we have often, and then with the cancelling going out for her friends birthday.

He would say he doesn't tell me I can't go out with a friend, he doesn't have to tell me not to do things because I say I won't do them before he gets chance to?

It was my friends daughters 1st birthday party and I was looking forward to going, and he kept going on about it asking how long I'd be there for, why did I want to go to a baby's birthday party, things like that. I knew what he was doing but had decided to not back down on it, but he kept going on and on and eventually he got really mad, told me that she didn't even like me anyway, I shouldn't want to go, they didn't want me there and I would be making a fool of myself if I went. It was awful and I agreed not to go and she hasn't spoken to me since. I don't blame her.

i think op it is best to give him no warning or hint you are planning to leave and honestly i think a refuge would be best , he has got a temper and gets irate if he thinks you arent going to obey him so this is a big red flag