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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

OP posts:
Bythemillpond · 22/03/2021 01:35

I'm so frightened of all the unknowns. Of regretting leaving him, of being even more lonely than I am now. Of the grass not being greener. Of having no one to speak to apart from basic colleague small talk for weeks at a time. Of having to get a job in the real world. I know where I stand and what my life will be like at the minute. And okay it's shit but I don't know that it won't be more shit any other way

Nothing could be more shit than your life atm.
At least if you leave you have the opportunity of making your life better. The future is unknown and maybe a little scary but compared to the predictable non life you are leading can you really say you would be worse off

Think of the day you had off and think about having similar days everyday.

billybagpuss · 22/03/2021 06:14

[quote namechangeforadvicepls]@tankflybosswalkjam we just used to argue a lot more, he could be nasty sometimes. I'm struggling to put it into words. It just felt a lot worse.[/quote]
This just means he has ground you down to compliance rather than pushing back.

Sending you more hugs and hopefully strength to call women’s aid today like you mentioned up thread.

namechangeforadvicepls · 22/03/2021 06:50

I'm not going to be able to speak to WA today as he's decided to work from home today.

I did email to cancel the surgery though.

OP posts:
Stratfordplace · 22/03/2021 06:50

You sound as though some wealth has been built up during your marriage. You previously mentioned another property you own. This is also your wealth and property. You are entitled to half.

People are aware that even if a wife stays at home she would have done admin etc to contribute towards family finances.

Please get help today. Get photographic evidence of accounts etc. He will say it’s all his but believe us here, that is not how the law sees it.
There is a new Coercive Control law in domestic violence situations which completely deals with the situation you have found yourself in.

user1471462428 · 22/03/2021 07:35

Op, could you do one small thing on this thread? Stop apologising to us. You have a right to your thoughts and feelings. There is nothing wrong with feeling scared/ tired/ overwhelmed/angry/ hurt. I was in a controlling relationship and was on left with what was in my mind. Having ownership over it helped me a great deal as soon as I had figured out that the abuse was his fault regaining my thoughts and feelings was amazing. I got to the point where I could analyse his behaviour and this helped me to eventually leave him. You have nothing to feel bad about. Flowers

billybagpuss · 22/03/2021 07:40

@namechangeforadvicepls

I'm not going to be able to speak to WA today as he's decided to work from home today.

I did email to cancel the surgery though.

Glad you’ve cancelled, have you told him yet, you said up thread he hasn’t forced you to have it, but he has come to expect compliance.

Hopefully you’ll be able to try women’s aid tomorrow.

Blackestofgranite · 22/03/2021 07:44

Are you certain he’s not able to read this thread? It seems very coincidental the day you were contacting Women’s aid is the day he’s working from home.

I hope you’re ok

chaosrabbitland · 22/03/2021 07:48

its easier said than done , but i would finish it , you have no children so you wont be tied down in a ton of contact details and custody arraigments , it would be hard to start again ,but not as hard i think as staying in this marriage , from what your saying hes totally controlling and i dont think hes going to be changing that anytime soon even if you do try and talk to him ,change your behaviour , hes just going to moan , guilt trip you , hes effectively isolated you so you are dependent on just him which is why he doesnt want you to see your family . is it possible to have a talk with your mum and see if you could stay with her

ForwardRanger · 22/03/2021 07:50

@Viviennemary

Well if you won't stand up to him about a small thing like the barbecue nothing is ever going to change. And as you are so unhappy nothing changing isn't an option. TBH in your situation I would leave. He is a total control freak.
Spectacularly unhelpful post.

You're not in the OP's situation so you have no idea how you would manage - and you appear to have gained no insight from her very clear descriptions of the difficulties she faces.

Even a scratch of surface reading about family harm would clue you up considerably.

In the meantime let me spell it out for you.

A person who has been controlled for a long period of time does not turn into a confident person of independent means overnight. The damage is extensive, and healing is a long road requiring huge courage. It is helpful if there is moral and practical support. Victim blaming makes it worse. Ignorant and judgemental posts -
like yours - make online make it worse.

Balzac20 · 22/03/2021 08:22

When I was thinking about leaving my controlling, cheating XH, I realise now part of the reason it was so difficult was because I felt like I needed his permission to do it - as if I needed to lay out my grievances and get him to agree to break up. But in fact (of course), that’s not necessary.
If it helps, though - OP: you have permission to leave.
Also consider whether the reason he doesn’t like you watching TV or reading books is because you’ll see examples of healthy, normal relationships there and compare them to how you’re being treated. You’ve been stripped off all your potential good relationship role models and it might be helpful for you to seek some out to give you an idea of what’s a power balance in a relationship.
Good luck - life without a man is great. I’ll see you at Cineworld xx

gutful · 22/03/2021 08:29

@Balzac20 very valid points you bring up here

superwoman232 · 22/03/2021 08:30

@namechangeforadvicepls what is the worst he could do if you leave? Other than hurting your physically for which he'd get arrested.

HedgeOwl · 22/03/2021 08:46

Well done on cancelling the surgery, that’s a huge step forward and really something you don’t need to go through at all atm.
Maybe reach out to e friend of the 1 year old and just say your Husband controls you, stopped you going, doesn’t let you see anyone and you are sorry and hope to see her in the future. I promise you will get a positive response.

The same from your family. They’re watching and waiting for you to help.

I promise small talk from colleagues will be more genuine conversation than you are getting now. Your story about nearly going to the cinema is so sad

Letsgetbizzy · 22/03/2021 08:53

@namechangeforadvicepls

I'm not going to be able to speak to WA today as he's decided to work from home today.

I did email to cancel the surgery though.

So proud of you for doing doing this. Well done. It's a small step in the right direction
Mittens030869 · 22/03/2021 08:55

@superwoman232

I don’t think that’s the main reason she doesn’t feel able to leave. I think it’s more because he’s so destroyed her self-esteem that she really does think she won’t cope on her own. See what happened when she signed up to train as a teacher, he convinced her that she wouldn’t succeed.

He also convinced her that no one likes her, so she thinks she’ll be on her own.

MMMarmite · 22/03/2021 09:12

@namechangeforadvicepls

I'm not going to be able to speak to WA today as he's decided to work from home today.

I did email to cancel the surgery though.

Well done for emailing, that's a great step :)

I bet once you leave him, you'll have far more success at losing weight. You're basically eating because he makes you miserable and it's your only comfort.

You said you've lost a bit of weight before, but then not managed to keep it up - it made me wonder if he was subtly sabotaging/discouraging those attempts?

Nottheendofthings · 22/03/2021 09:23

I doubt you have a personality disorder OP. The effects of domestic abuse can mimic the effects of a personality disorder. There's no doubt that what you're experiencing and have been experiencing for a long time is domestic abuse. Of course it's changed you, you had to change to survive it. But you can change back

All of this.

And so well done OP for cancelling the surgery. That is a step in the right direction.

I'm so frightened of all the unknowns. Of regretting leaving him, of being even more lonely than I am now. Of the grass not being greener. Of having no one to speak to apart from basic colleague small talk for weeks at a time. Of having to get a job in the real world. I know where I stand and what my life will be like at the minute. And okay it's shit but I don't know that it won't be more shit any other way
These are his thoughts that he has trained you to have. Yes, there will be obstacles to overcome, yes you will have to make a new life. And it is ok to feel anxious about all that. But people who have been encouraged and supported in life know that it is ok to feel anxious and scared of things and to do them anyone. It is ok for things to be hard and still pursue. And you can live with hardness and challenge because you do it everyday. You have resilience in spades as you manage to live each day under strains and demands and pressure that most people cannot even imagine. So yes, you will find a way to cope when you start out on your own. And you won't be on your own. If you reach out there will be people supporting you. Our local women's Aid page say that they are there every step of the way. They are experienced in supporting women scared what their partners will do when they leave. They will help you.

You know every day of your life will be shit if you stay. The ONLY way to get a better life is to leave. You currently live a worst life than most people in this country. That tells you that your life will not be worse when you leave.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 22/03/2021 09:27

That's one big step forward @namechangeforadvicepls, well done. I hope you are able to get out for a walk today, just for some time without him. We're all rooting for you.

Arrowheart · 22/03/2021 09:30

You have to sit with him at the table when he is doing work???????? That one statement is enough for me to give my first ever LTB.

cripez · 22/03/2021 09:46

I really feel for you OP. I remember your earlier thread too and I had a sinking feeling you wouldn't do the course, or course I desperately hoped that you would.

Please don't sublimate your personality and dreams to suit this man. That is not a life. You deserve a life.

I am very concerned by your more recent responses about him. Are you sure you're safe? I agree with PP that you need to plan this carefully but honestly the sooner you are out the better.

harknesswitch · 22/03/2021 09:49

You're doing brilliantly OP, just identifying that his behaviour is abusive is a big step.

I was in your shoes 20 years ago, I can honestly say once I left I never looked back. But it was strange for a long while. I went to buy a mobile phone and just stood in the shop and stared at the wall of phones, not knowing what to do, as my exdh had always made the decisions for me. But you get over these hurdles and I'm now a confident woman who's very much in charge of her own life

But it will take time, now the thought is there, he'll do something and it will be the straw that broke the camels back. You'll leave and never look back. Let's how that time is soon.

Arrowheart · 22/03/2021 10:03

Just wanted to add to this and say what would you say to someone who you loved who was telling you their life was like this? You seem like the kind of person who would want them to get out, to move on, to actually LIVE their life. I hope you do get away and get the chance to feel free and be free. You do only get one chance at life and you are not living a life, you are merely existing for someone else. Please please please move on and leave this man. He really is not a nice man at all. He is destroying you and your life. You are so young. Please leave him.

Sexnotgender · 22/03/2021 10:26

So proud of you for cancelling the surgery. You don’t need his permission, he isn’t in charge.

Pashazade · 22/03/2021 12:04

Someone said further back that you seem to feel like you need his permission to leave. I'd say going by the numbers on this thread you've got around 400 women, who have read your posts, that are giving you absolute and unequivocal permission to leave. Fingers crossed that you can take that step, but we will all still be here if you can't. Everybody wants you to move forward and live the life you deserve free from this awful situation.

skodadoda · 22/03/2021 12:38

@namechangeforadvicepls

I'm not going to be able to speak to WA today as he's decided to work from home today.

I did email to cancel the surgery though.

Well done, you made a decision 💐 You can do it😀