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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

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KatharinaRosalie · 21/03/2021 20:25

OP, please read what Silkiechooks has written, because that's exactly what will happen. I have a friend with a controlling husband, the husband has convinced her that she is an useless mother and any issue is due to her inadequate parenting - whether it's weight gain, tantrums, colic, sleeping - all her fault. Your DH will make all decisions about how you will raise your child - starting from which doctor you can see, if you are allowed pain relief, if you must or cannot breastfeed, where baby will sleep, if you must leave them to cry... all of it.

lightofthetrees · 21/03/2021 20:28

Watch the C4 I am Nicola

Itstimetoquit · 21/03/2021 21:28

This thread is heartbreaking please leave him,he's a monster x

namechangeforadvicepls · 21/03/2021 22:26

I haven't caught up with the posts on this thread yet, not been able to come on all day. It's been a weird day.

@lightofthetrees I've just started watching this now, I'm 8 minutes in and I feel sick to my stomach. The look on this poor girls face, she just went to apologise to her partner for basically nothing and it was practically word for word a conversation we have often, and then with the cancelling going out for her friends birthday.

He would say he doesn't tell me I can't go out with a friend, he doesn't have to tell me not to do things because I say I won't do them before he gets chance to?

It was my friends daughters 1st birthday party and I was looking forward to going, and he kept going on about it asking how long I'd be there for, why did I want to go to a baby's birthday party, things like that. I knew what he was doing but had decided to not back down on it, but he kept going on and on and eventually he got really mad, told me that she didn't even like me anyway, I shouldn't want to go, they didn't want me there and I would be making a fool of myself if I went. It was awful and I agreed not to go and she hasn't spoken to me since. I don't blame her.

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Tankflybosswalkjam · 21/03/2021 22:29

Sweetheart, why is this all you believe you are worth?

RandomMess · 21/03/2021 22:38
Thanks

You need to tell your friends what is going on, they will support you as best they can and be there for you when you leave.

Tankflybosswalkjam · 21/03/2021 22:39

You know, I think OP that what’s going on here might be a whole lot bigger than a shit controlling partner. There really does feel from your posts that there may be some pathology on your side. That is in NO WAY blaming or apportioning responsibility on you.

I would be minded to have a look at dependent/cluster C personality disorders and see whether that rings any bells. Make no mistake your husband is a nob for behaving like this but there is something on your part that’s making you respond in such a phenomenally disordered way.

Quick question: Do you ever worry about him leaving/abandoning you?

gutful · 21/03/2021 22:51

The fact that your friend hasn't spoken to you again after you missed her daughter's birthday indicates that your absence was greatly missed & by you just not turning up this has hurt her - because you must mean a lot to her for her to have invited you to her daughter's 1st bday celebration in the first place. People don't invite those they don't like to birthday parties.

While your friend is likely upset with you if they knew the story behind why you ghosted them that day I bet they would feel really bad for you & the issue of you missing the bday would disappear.

The fact she hasn't spoken to you since is testament that you did mean a lot to her as a friend

namechangeforadvicepls · 21/03/2021 22:54

@Tankflybosswalkjam I've been asking myself all day why I don't just leave him. I'm at home on my own most of the time and I could very easily pack up a suitcase and get in the car with the dog and go. Why don't I do it?

I'm so frightened of all the unknowns. Of regretting leaving him, of being even more lonely than I am now. Of the grass not being greener. Of having no one to speak to apart from basic colleague small talk for weeks at a time. Of having to get a job in the real world. I know where I stand and what my life will be like at the minute. And okay it's shit but I don't know that it won't be more shit any other way.

And also, if I'm pushing myself to be really honest, I'm scared of what he might do. He used to be a lot worse with me than what he is now, I think because I really just don't ever do anything out of line any more. I wouldn't put anything past him.

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namechangeforadvicepls · 21/03/2021 22:56

@Tankflybosswalkjam just seen your second post - no I don't ever worry about him leaving me. And I will have a look at the personality disorder thing.

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Mittens030869 · 21/03/2021 22:59

I agree that you should get in touch with your friend and explain why you didn’t go. In her shoes, I would completely understand and feel badly for you.

Please reach out to her and other friends. You need their support if you’re to find the strength to get away from this man. Flowers

namechangeforadvicepls · 21/03/2021 23:01

*@gutful The fact she hasn't spoken to you since is testament that you did mean a lot to her as a friend

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Tankflybosswalkjam · 21/03/2021 23:03

What do you mean by this? He used to be a lot worse with me than what he is now?

I am so worried for you! X

RandomMess · 21/03/2021 23:06

Do you think he would come after you and hurt you?

This is why going to a refuge would be good. You get support workers and some have communal areas where you can talk to other residents.

Short term you could take a room in a shared house so you aren't living on your own.

namechangeforadvicepls · 21/03/2021 23:09

@tankflybosswalkjam we just used to argue a lot more, he could be nasty sometimes. I'm struggling to put it into words. It just felt a lot worse.

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AmberItsACertainty · 21/03/2021 23:12

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

No lovely, you'd have the most important thing of all, you'd have freedom.

You'd have spare time that wasn't dictated by someone else and you'd fill it with your own decisions and you'd stop feeling empty. You've got skills so you'd get a job and maybe socialize with colleagues. You'd get hobbies and friends. If your weight is an issue for you, you could join something social like weight watchers. When your feelings and your health returned so probably would your sex drive. By leaving your H you'd gain the chance to meet someone more suitable for you, you'd gain the chance of becoming a mother perhaps.

You wouldn't have nothing, you'd have your dreams and the chance to take action to achieve them, instead of living somebody else's.

RandomMess · 21/03/2021 23:12

Whereas now you don't stand your ground, don't argue back just do or say what you know he wants you to say or do.

So on one level it's "better" as there is less conflict but on the other hand you have disappeared even more... you are just his puppet.

gutful · 21/03/2021 23:18

Guaranteed your friend still likes you as well & is just feeling hurt & rejected by you.

This is what he wanted - for your friend to disappear & seem like she doesn't care about you

I bet if she knew what was really happening to you, she would want to help - even if she could not, she would want to & feel really bad about what you're going through. right now.

Re: the fear of feeling lonely > the thing is being "Alone" and being "lonely" are two very different feelings. Alone is solice, peace, quiet contemplation, pottering, hobbies, rest, relaxation. You get to decide what you want to do, when you do it. If you want to eat a sandwich for dinner standing over the sink & not wipe up the crumbs after, you could if you wanted. Nobody to question or undermine you. Nobody to chip away at your confidence

You are alone but also not being suffocated or made to feel small by someone else.

You sound very lonely & put down in this relationship, with no space for your own wants & needs in life

While it's true leaving an abusive relationship is like getting over an addiction - in some ways this man is your security blankey & must provide some comforts to you. The comfort of having someone, his nitpicking must feel like caring to you at this point.

In your first post you say he is this way because he CARES - so your mind is interpreting that everything he does is based on him wanting what's best for you

The thing is parents sometimes want what they perceive is best for us - it doesn't make it true & we all deserve space to find ourselves & be true authentic selves. That means inevitably having to push back on those we love to get what we need in life.

The difference between pushing back on your parents & pushing back in a toxic relationship is that you are much more at risk of physical repercussions or mental abuse here.

I agree wholeheartedly that what you must do is pack a bag & leave in the night

However you need to be in the right mindset to do this - because he is going to come at your with crying / begging / pleading / yelling & doing whatever it takes to get you back

That is why they say the most dangerous time for you is when you are preparing to leave & immediately afterwards

Once they accept you are gone they will latch onto someone else.

But you need to be in the mindset that you feel the fear but do it anyway, so that you are not susceptible to his wheedlings to get you back.

I think it's important to picture yourself literally on your death bed today & think about what your regrets would be & want you wanted out of life that you didn't achieve. Hopefully that will allow some clarify for your head & heart to reconcile each other in your mind & make a decision.

That you made a post being so unhappy years ago indicates that this situation is not going to improve & that you are just not happy.

What would make you happy?

AmberItsACertainty · 21/03/2021 23:20

@namechangeforadvicepls

Thank you so much for all your replies.

It does scare me, the thought of thinking I will try and make it work but what if I look back in ten years time, after ten years of all this same miserableness, and think why didn't I just leave.

I think it's come to a bit of a head at the minute because I have actually booked for weight loss surgery in a months time. It was always his idea that he would suggest to me, although he didn't force me, but I don't know if I want to go through with it. I'm scared that I would go through the surgery but because I feel so depressed all the time, that without changing anything else in my life I would still just eat any way and it would fail.

I find it so incredibly hard to make decisions. I can always see everything from both sides, and so I end up going around and around in circles in my mind and doing nothing.

Show this post to the surgeon, ask their opinion. I'm betting the surgery won't go ahead. Because the surgeon will care about what's right for you. Use the surgery time to contact Women's Aid.
Walkingwounded · 21/03/2021 23:22

I’ve been where you are, op. It’s not as easy as ‘ just leave’ when you’ve been ground down over many years.

The best advice I can give is to contact Women’s Aid. You will need support to leave, and they really get it.

They will talk t you about what control is, and hold your hand as you make your own choices. I could never have left without them.

Good luck.

RandomMess · 21/03/2021 23:23

There is nothing as lonely as a relationship that is toxic. Everyone thinks you have a partner to confide in and delight in whilst the reality is that you are slowly fading away into the deepest pit of despair.

Been there got the T-shirt, living alone people check up
On you, invite you places it's completely different.

AmberItsACertainty · 21/03/2021 23:31

I doubt you have a personality disorder OP. The effects of domestic abuse can mimic the effects of a personality disorder. There's no doubt that what you're experiencing and have been experiencing for a long time is domestic abuse. Of course it's changed you, you had to change to survive it. But you can change back. Get back to being you again, if you leave. I did. Have you thought of texting your old friends an apology for not being in touch and a link to this thread? You might be surprised who is there for you.

SpringCrocus · 22/03/2021 00:11

You mentioned on other threads he has shoved you, slapped your bum, barged into you. This is violence.

AmberItsACertainty · 22/03/2021 01:02

spring crocus I had that too. Casual everyday violence I call it. As opposed to rage violence. At the time I didn't even recognize it as violence.

OP look up Stockholm Syndrome. That's why you think it's not so bad. Your brain has to tell you that to enable you to tolerate it. If you leave, some time down the line you'll see it differently and wonder why you ever stayed.

lalafafa · 22/03/2021 01:09

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