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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

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AliceAbsolum · 20/03/2021 08:26

Go have ivf with donor sperm. You have 1 life, don't waste it on this man 😔

eatsleepread · 20/03/2021 08:31

You know what OP, you do get to have a say in your life Smile
The upside of not having children together is that it will be easier to leave.
Take back some control. Being passive is what's led you here.
Best of luck Thanks

WildfirePonie · 20/03/2021 08:32

No it's not normal at all! I'd have left his stuff on the pavement. Fk him. I wouldn't do anything he asks. I'd tell him to go fk himself if he thinks he's gonna tell me what I can and cannot do. Who the fuck made him the king?! Don't you dare sit with him on Sunday. I am livid thinking about your situation. You only get one life! Go and live how you want. Set yourself free. Only you can do it.

namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 08:34

@DoverSoul I've actually spoken to women's aid before. I feel so guilty about ringing them again as I already wasted their time last time because I didn't leave, and I don't want to take time away for someone else. I feel like resources like that are for people who are unsafe, I know that with DH I can carry on pretending as normal and I'm not in immediate danger.

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BlueSuffragette · 20/03/2021 08:39

Wow OP. Just read the whole thread. So sorry that you are in such a horrific abusive relationship. Your self worth gas been ground down to nothing. You are worth so much more. I really hope the scales fall from your eyes and you make plans to leave the abusive arsehole. Whilst he us at work today please call Womens aid. Start the ball rolling towards a new life for yourself. He doesn't love you, doesn't respect you or even like you. Please reach out to your family for support. Do not tell him you are leaving until you go. Womens aid will help you every step of the way. You deserve a happy life. Start today.

BlueSuffragette · 20/03/2021 08:41

Cross posted. Womens aid won't care you contacted them previously. You are not safe with him. Your mental health is constantly abused.

RUOKHon · 20/03/2021 08:44

It takes an average of seven attempts for a victim to leave their abuser. Women’s Aid know this and will be very used to people saying they want to leave but not going through with it. In fact they will probably expect it. They will be there to supper you on the first attempt, the third attempt, the fifth attempt... until the final attempt.

The van thing is awful and not at all normal. How humiliating for you.

It occurred to me today as I was reading the update that he could be forcing you to have surgery because he knows you find comfort and pleasure in food. And so he wants to take that away from you too. Once you have surgery you will only be able to eat small amounts of certain foods. It’s the one last area of your life that he will have managed to restrict and make smaller.

CecilyP · 20/03/2021 08:48

I don’t think you’d be wasting their time. Many women ring many times before getting the courage to make changes. Don’t always try to put others first. Putting yourself last is how you’ve got into this situation.

You say your not in immediate danger but you seem totally afraid to stand up to him. Is that not because you are scared of his reaction if you stop deferring to him in all aspects of your life. The sitting doing nothing while he does his paperwork seems extreme.

You say you’ve invested 20 years of your life, but you are still very young. Definitely young enough to find someone else. And far too young to be enduring your current life.

CecilyP · 20/03/2021 08:57

It occurred to me today as I was reading the update that he could be forcing you to have surgery because he knows you find comfort and pleasure in food. And so he wants to take that away from you too. Once you have surgery you will only be able to eat small amounts of certain foods. It’s the one last area of your life that he will have managed to restrict and make smaller.

Yes I would make cancelling the surgery your first step. Is there pre-surgery counselling offered? If so, I would go to your next appointment and talk to the counsellor about your relationship. This would give you enough reason to postpone the operation for the foreseeable future.

HedgeOwl · 20/03/2021 09:16

Just read all your updates, your husband is a huge abuser. Women’s aid or anyone you contact won’t think you are wasting time, they know it takes some people a few rounds of contact to get help. I’m sorry your mum isn’t supportive, I’ve known a few people of that generation advise friends to stay with cheating partners etc.bad advise.

Can you talk to your sister/sister in law? Say you are trapped and want to leave/come to the BBQ? They might be more receptive?

Nothing he is doing is normal. He’s realised you are wanting to leave and now is the time he will get dangerous and up the antics and wear you down or worse.

Huge well done on applying for the job. Cancel the surgery, you can keep up the pretence of the diet if you want and say they phoned on the morning to cancel due to covid/bed space if it’s easier. You do not want to be vulnerable to this man. I promise if you leave you will lose weight. Him and you’ll enjoy life.

HedgeOwl · 20/03/2021 09:17

And I completely agree with @RUOKHon saying about he is taking away eating from you your only pleasure with pushing the surgery.

KatharinaRosalie · 20/03/2021 09:18

You say yourself you feel like a prisoner and shell of a person, while you were previously bubbly and funny and with many friends. He has destroyed a person and turned you into some kind of a support robot for him. That's not 'nothing'.

Gassylady · 20/03/2021 09:29

Each time you post it sounds worse and worse. You must be so strong to even be able to begin to think of changing things. PLEASE PLEASE do not go ahead with your surgery at the moment. I think the risk is too high that he will use it against you. The regime afterwards is very strict and there can be very painful and dangerous complications if you do not stick to it. What if he is standing over you say you must eat with him and the same food -evn if it is not suitable for the stage you are at? Importantly it sounds as if food is possibly a coping mechanism for you - like so many of us- to have that forcibly removed at the moment may be very difficult to bear. I say again only you can consent to the surgery and you can withdraw this at any time. I work as an anaesthetist and have over the years had people change their minds even after they have arrived in the anaesthetic room.

Gassylady · 20/03/2021 09:29

Sorry should have put an @namechangeforadvicepls in my last post

DoverSoul · 20/03/2021 09:56

[quote namechangeforadvicepls]@DoverSoul I've actually spoken to women's aid before. I feel so guilty about ringing them again as I already wasted their time last time because I didn't leave, and I don't want to take time away for someone else. I feel like resources like that are for people who are unsafe, I know that with DH I can carry on pretending as normal and I'm not in immediate danger.[/quote]
namechange I haven't told a soul this but I contacted Rape Crisis the other day merely to clarify something. The lady I spoke to asked if I would like help dealing with it and I said exactly what you've said - someone else was more deserving of their time. No! Why should your needs be any less than anyone else's? I am now on their waiting list and I'm actually feeling lighter because of it. I thought I felt okay before so it just goes to show. Anyway, enough about me.

Thousands of women have used WA and have not left or have left and gone back again. That's okay. It happens a lot, it's the way of abusive relationships. They won't judge you or say you wasted their time. You didn't, you just weren't in the right place to do anymore than you were already, and as you said his behaviour improved. Funny that.

Please, just ring them again, tell them what you've told us and listen to what they have to say. They won't force you to leave if you're not ready but they will support you in what you're being put through.

LouMumsnet · 20/03/2021 10:23

Morning, @namechangeforadvicepls - we're just bobbing on here to say that we've moved your thread over to our Relationships board, as requested, and we hope you get lots of advice here. Thanks to all who've offered support so far.

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EarthSight · 20/03/2021 10:43

Oh my God. You are his employee OP!!!! Do you get a proper pay cheque. Do you have independent finances where you cash that cheque? You should.

The ringing thing sounds alarming. He's paranoid or is keeping tabs on you. As well as other issues, I think you've realised that he's too busy to have children, too busy to give you the support you would need, and too busy to have a relationship. Sorry but I don't think you have a relationship. You are an employee who lives in his house, who's also the housekeeper who's taking care of his dogs who enables his business, which is the real centre & love of his life, not you.
Without you, he wouldn't be able to do what he's doing now.

I have tried that before. He’ll go on and on and on about it, asking why I want to go, saying things like “oh shall we getfavourite takeawayon Saturday - oh we can’t you’re out on that night aren’t you”, or “I think I’ll watchfilm we both really wanting to watchwhile you’re out as I’ll have nothing better to do” or he’ll start really slagging off my family or if he still doesn’t get his way he’ll just say “if you loved me you wouldn’t Go/leave Me on my own” and I just feel so grounded down by it, it’s much easier to just not to go

I think you live with a manipulative, controlling man. He has successfully managed to cut off your independence and any life outside of him. I think you might need to contact Women's Aid.

EarthSight · 20/03/2021 11:04

I can see you have many posts revealing more details, so I will summarise most of your life for other readers who don't have time to go through the whole thread in this quoted sentence -

If I go to the toilet for too long, or stay outside with the dogs for too long when I let them out, he asks me what I've been doing or why it took so long

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

It's not that he's just controlling. I think he knows he has you as his prisoner and knows you will crack or leave him if he doesn't keep keep a close tab on you. With this type of scrutiny and behaviour, I wouldn't be surprised if installing CCTV in the house for both of your 'security' or on case a burglar comes in will be the next step, if he hasn't already installed spycams around the place.

After reading your fears about karma, I have to question your mental state right now. Tell me, if a monster was upset, heartbroken even because its victim managed to escape its cave.....do you think that victim would be subject to some sort of karma from the universe???

Your entire existence now seems to revolve around him. He has led a campaign over the years to make you believe that everything he does, he does for you. He has convinced you the every action, every turning of the key, tightening of his grip, suffocating action was for your happiness or security. Because he loves you apparently.

That's a line that a lot of abusers use. There are some men who hit their wives and say to them 'I only get angry, I only lash out because I love you and care about our relationship. It means I love you'.

Trust me, no matter how upset he seems when you leave him, it's not because he loves you. He'll be grieving the loss of a prisoner, employee and housekeeper which he then will be inconvenienced to replace.

EarthSight · 20/03/2021 11:05

Also, please try to speak to a solicitor and don't tell him you are leaving him until you've actually left.

namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 11:59

@EarthSight After reading your fears about karma, I have to question your mental state right now. Tell me, if a monster was upset, heartbroken even because its victim managed to escape its cave.....do you think that victim would be subject to some sort of karma from the universe???

He's not a monster though. He's not a baddie in a Disney film. He had an abusive childhood and it's left him with control issues. I can't get angry with him, as someone else suggested, because I understand why he is like this and I feel so sorry for him and what he went through.

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Colourmeclear · 20/03/2021 12:02

This is so sad. Reminds me of my ex, he would come in rip the duvet off me and throw it on the floor if I wasn't up when he was up.

The first thing I did was find therapy. I needed to speak to someone to know that I had some strength left in me and that I deserved better. It took me a while to get the strength to leave but I got there eventually. If it's safe for you to do so contact Women's Aid too.

Bythemillpond · 20/03/2021 12:19

Leaving him is also leaving the idea of everything that I thought my life would be

Did you really think your life would be like this.
In pyjamas and a coat picking up rubbish at the side of the road
Asking permission to do anything
Not being able to read a book or watch a film
Not being able to go to your mums when she has invited you.

I don’t think what you have is what you thought your life would be

Him coming from an abusive home doesn’t mean he has to be abusing and controlling. These are things he chooses to do.

You had a controlling mother. Do you control your husband?
How you act is about choices you make.

Your husband doesn’t act like a monster all the time because if he did you would have never got together with him or have stayed

You said things came to ahead last year and since then he has been better which shows he can control what he does and it is a choice he makes.
If you say you are leaving and he thinks he will lose control of you then he will love bomb you till you change your mind but it will not last. The change isn’t because he loves you more.

Personally I would have left the rubbish till he came home tonight and let him get down on his knees to clear it up.

If you want to become a mum then do it on your own. But first please leave this controlling abusive arse

category12 · 20/03/2021 12:21

He's not a monster though. He's not a baddie in a Disney film. He had an abusive childhood and it's left him with control issues. I can't get angry with him, as someone else suggested, because I understand why he is like this and I feel so sorry for him and what he went through.

Of course he's not a monster, it's seldom anyone is. But he is doing the wrong things and harming you through his behaviour.

You're worried about your karma potentially causing him pain?

What about his karma?

While you stay, you're enabling him to keep visiting his past on you and not deal with his issues, but externalise them. He's not growing or learning or changing or becoming a better person, he's just focused on shrinking your world down to control you. You're actually enabling him to be a worse person.

What's the pay-off for that, in karmic terms?

goody2shooz · 20/03/2021 12:21

Why do you think his happiness is more important than yours? What does he do to make YOU happy? You do so much for him on a daily basis, what kind or helpful things does he do for you? He won’t even give you peace to read a book, he won’t let you wear earphones, visit your family...he near as damn it keeps you in a cage. Please call Women’s Aid and a solicitor. Please tell your mum how it really is - if you were my daughter I’d come and get you RIGHT NOW and do anything to help you escape him. If anyone deserves the karma bus it’s your husband....hopefully itll run him over.

namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 12:23

@Colourmeclear DH wakes me up every day. On work days, he'll get up and go to the bathroom to get ready and if I don't immediately also get up, he'll shout at me to from the bathroom and he'll get nastier every time. It takes me about 10 minutes to get all his stuff ready in the morning, even if there was 30 minutes of time I still have to get straight up and he will accuse me of "stressing him out before work" if I don't.

In all the time we've been together I've never had a lie in, except on the very, very rare occasion that he has one himself. He's an early riser, he wakes up really early every day. If I've begged him to let me have a lie in because I am ill or haven't slept well for a few nights (as I'm the opposite, find it really hard to quiet my mind enough to fall asleep so am often awake later than him) he will say okay but then he'll fidget in bed once he wakes up, he pushes me with his bum because he thinks it's subtle and I don't realise what he's doing, then make loads of noise getting up, then ask me if I want him to bring me a cup of tea up, then the dogs will run upstairs and dive on me because "they snuck past him". But if I say anything about being supposed to have a lie in, he says it wasn't his fault the dogs got past him or he was trying to be quiet/nice by offering a cup of tea

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