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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

OP posts:
namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 12:24

@Colourmeclear I'm sorry I pressed send too soon. I'm sorry you had to deal with similar too and I'm glad you managed to leave. I'm going to speak to Women's Aid on Monday, I think they're closed now.

OP posts:
namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 12:27

I apologise if I'm writing too much or oversharing. It's really helping me to write things down, I read it back once I've posted it and it's almost as if I understand it then? I think, that's horrible, as if I'm reading it about someone else then it hits me that it's me.

OP posts:
foxysocks · 20/03/2021 12:29

This is horrific. He’s a horrible, cruel abuser and should be arrested and charged for treating you like this. He is NOT a good person he is a criminal.

Please call WA today. Go for a walk and tell them what you’ve told us, ask them to help you leave. Please. Do it TODAY. I am worried you are seriously at risk. Abuse escalates over time. Get out now.

foxysocks · 20/03/2021 12:32

You can email WA using a link on this page. Copy and paste your posts on this thread or even just the link to this thread if you are tight for time. Do it when you are outside your house then clear the cookies from your phone.

www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/

EarthSight · 20/03/2021 12:34

Either you accept that and continue living as a prisoner in a situation where you feel like you have to justify your toilet visits, or you don't.

Women should not be rehab centres for damaged men Remember that because it's a wise statement often said on Mumsnet.

You are going through a process right now and I think you haven't reached the next stage yet. The next stage will probably be anger, and I hope it is, rather than fear. He's going to do something or you will wake up one day and reconnect with your self-worth, pride, and self-preservation and realise that you should have been a lot angrier a lot sooner. It might be something small, but you will realise you need to leave immediately. You will cease feeling sorry for him, and will realise that he is an adult man, not your patient or your child.

You might feel sorry for him, and I'm sorry I'm going to have to should this but his bad childhood IS NOT YOUR FAULT. It's not your fault that he had a shitty childhood, nor should you feel responsible for it, or feel like you alone can 'save' him from it. It's something that happened a long time, ago and now it's affecting you. Why should you suffer too because he had a bad childhood? Why do you need to be the saint or saviour in this?

Your logic just doesn't stand I'm afraid. If a man had a shitty childhood, if he was beaten, do you think that would justify him or people should feel sorry for him when he beats his wife? There needs to be some line in the sand OP, and I don't think you have any idea where yours is anymore.

I want you examine how you feel about him. Do you genuinely love him as an intimate partner, or do you feel so vulnerable that he seems like your only hope? I think many women like yourself love their man like they would love a child.

I would ask you 'Why aren't you more angry? Why don't you say 'How dare you ask me how long I've been in the toilet!!! Who the hell do ypu think you are??? What wrong with you????'

You might have already responded like that and maybe it had no effect. Doesn't matter as he shouldn't be behaving like that anyway. But you know, I know why you aren't angry enough yet. Like I said, you haven't reached that point yet for some reason, but something one day might lead you to snap and you will suddenly feel the need to propel yourself out of there, out of this situation that is slowly taking your independence and oxygen away. A relationship doesn't need to be 'abusive' to reach that point. Shit behaviour doesn't need to fit in a neat little box labelled box named 'abusive' in order to be shit. It just needs to be shit! I know when my 'aha' moment was and I'm wondering what yours will be. You're slowly getting there but it's not quite enough yet to galvanize you into action.

Outbutnotoutout · 20/03/2021 12:35

As long as you make excuses for his behaviour, the longer you will stay.

Listen to people. HE IS NOT A GOOD MAN!!!!!

IndecentCakes · 20/03/2021 12:41

I just want to say that I left my first marriage because of this. It was so insidious. I do believe in working at marriage but this sort of thing isn't salvageable.
You can have a baby. Maybe you have six or seven years to address that and how you might want to go about it, solving any issues. But you don't want him to father your daughter or son, trust me on this.
Take your dog and take your life back. You will be glad you did.

bobbycock79 · 20/03/2021 12:46

Your situation is very similar to a friend of mine, you're the same age too. She was with her partner from age 15 (he was a few years older) and she knew no other life. They had a son and I got to know her after getting chatting at the health visitor waiting room. She was lovely, bright, articulate and had so much to offer but was always so guarded and I never really felt like I knew her fully. She didn't work and was completely dependent on him, she had no other friends and he didn't like her family. I assumed they were happy with each others company, just staying in together every evening and weekend. She told me recently it was like jail. It took her years and several attempts to actually end the relationship. But she's done it. The first step was getting a part time job as a dinner lady at her sons school and this led to a job running the after school club and eventually full time as a TA. The confidence the job gave her, along with the financial independence and support of lovely colleagues who have become friends enabled her to finally end the relationship. It's not all been plain sailing, her ex is very bitter and makes life difficult with regard to their son (you won't have that issue) and in the first year she wobbled as she felt very lonely. However she knew there was no going back. She found she lost weight quite easily now she could make her own choices and could exercise when she wanted and no longer comfort ate. She embraced online dating and after kissing a few frogs has found a man with whom she is happy and is expecting a baby. This has all happened in the space of 2 years. This could be you too, we're all rooting for you.

WildfirePonie · 20/03/2021 12:59

He's not a monster though.

Yes, he is. He really is OP.

KatharinaRosalie · 20/03/2021 13:02

Waking you up when you have been ill and have begged for a lie in is just so amazingly mean and nasty. As pp said, you are not a rehab, it's not your job to suffer because of his childhood. And it doesn't help him, does it - if all your behaviour and suffering was actually good for him, he would improve. He would be nicer and treat you better than in the beginning. Does he?

Balzac20 · 20/03/2021 13:06

You poor love. This sounds like an absolutely horrible situation to be in, it’s good that you’re reaching out here. My friend ex-husband was a controller, I was with him from a young age (I’m also 36). Total boiling frog syndrome - it ramped up over the years and I didn’t realise it. What you said about the lie-ins really resonated with me. He made me get up at 6 in the morning when I was on maternity leave (pre-baby) to drive him to the train station, a journey I’d walked every day for the preceding five years, ever since he insisted we moved there.
Anyway - we’ve now split as I found out he was visiting prostitutes. I’m really glad he was, because otherwise I probably wouldn’t have thought I had enough reason to end it. Now I’m painting my house how I want it, doing what I want, and absolutely loving it. I’ve done a lot of thinking and I’ve realised that it had never occurred to me that relationships were meant to be fun/nice. I thought you met someone, settled down and that was it. But now I realise it’s totally optional to be with someone, and if it’s not giving you anything - why do it?!
You’re young, you have no children and everything to live for. I can recommend the OU if you still want to study. Extricate yourself safely from this stinker of a situation. Good luck and lots of love x

Girlwhowearsglasses · 20/03/2021 13:08

OP I've read you answers - I'm sure PPs have said but if it hkeo remember you don't need a reason to leave a relationship the end. 'i don't want this for my life' is reason enough. It really is. It doesn't make you a horrible person if you decide this. You deserve to have this for your life.

The details if how you live your day to day life are suffocating in the extreme. Lots of people think (especially at the moment) ''oh we spend all our time together' but they really don't mean this. The waking you up is bad enough, again the detail of 'i never get a lie in' in you case is much more than when the average fed up person says this phrase.

Look after yourself OP

cuteglasses · 20/03/2021 13:17

His issues from his past are not your responsibility. This behaviour is absolutely unacceptable and toxic.
Eventually, he will wear your confidence down so much and you'll be a shell.
You have to put yourself first.
He is an abhorrent, screwed up little boy.

Colourmeclear · 20/03/2021 13:18

Write as much as you need. I started a journal because my memory became so poor from all the stress. I'm so glad I have them because I look back and realise how different things are for me. I met my current partner and he was absolutely gobsmacked when I asked him if it was ok to go to bed. He said Colour, you're in your 30s you don't need my permission. I cried.

I felt huge amounts of empathy for my ex. I made so many excuses, he doesn't mean to hurt, he's just easily stressed, his Dad treats him so poorly, I know the rules why did I break them etc. Eventually with the help of therapy, one day I had had enough. He was losing his shit and I walked out of the house. I was shaking like a leaf but found my anger and decided I had had enough. It still took me 6 months to leave but there was no going back even with all the manipulation and guilt.

He would call me constantly too. When he had forgotten something he would call me to tell me that I had been a fucking distraction but then he would 'forget' not to turn the big light on when he got up at 5am. It's constant disrespect. Never enough to feel like game over but enough to hurt.

MintyCedric · 20/03/2021 13:21

I can't get angry with him, as someone else suggested, because I understand why he is like this and I feel so sorry for him and what he went through.

Just because he had a bad time, does not entitle him to ruin your life because of his refusal to deal with his own shit.

I could understand why my XH was the way he was, but the bottom line was, could I live with his resulted behaviour - which he absolutely refused to address, for the rest of my life.

The simple answer was no.

My dad lost his father at 2.5 years old. The following year and he and his pregnant mum and younger brother were evacuated away from their home.

On their return at the end of the war, my nan was unable to cope with 3 small boys under the age of 8 and dad and his brothers were taken into care, his brothers staying together in a Barnardos home.

My dad, meanwhile was placed in series of children's homes, including a group that later became well known for series child abuse issues. My dad doesn't recall being a victim himself but he witnessed the mistreatment of others and tried to run away multiple times.

He left school at 14 with next to no qualifications and largely got on by himself as my nan has a new man and two infant children.

He - and his brothers - have never in their lives treated anyone the way your husband is treating you.

Your H is a grown man perfectly capable of seeking help and becoming a better person. He chooses not to because instead he can use it as an excuse to control you.

Eddielzzard · 20/03/2021 13:30

People very close to me have had horrific childhoods and don't do this sort of thing. He's an adult, he is CHOOSING this every day. He knows.

He IS a monster.

He IS NOT a good man.

Here is how you know: when you don't do what he wants immediately, he starts getting nastier and nastier. How is that being a good man?

How long should you continue to sacrifice yourself so he can keep on pretending that the only way anyone can make his awful childhood up to him is by continuing to rob you of your life? Can you see how screwed up that thinking is?

You ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MAN.

BonnieDundee · 20/03/2021 13:33

This could be you too, we're all rooting for you.

Yes

billybagpuss · 20/03/2021 13:43

@namechangeforadvicepls

I apologise if I'm writing too much or oversharing. It's really helping me to write things down, I read it back once I've posted it and it's almost as if I understand it then? I think, that's horrible, as if I'm reading it about someone else then it hits me that it's me.
This is helping you come to the realization that this is not a good situation to be in for you.

The more you write the worse it is. Women’s aid on Monday is a good plan. It also gives you time to start planning things do you own your home or are you renting and is your name on the deeds/rental agreement.

While he’s at work take copies of banking paperwork. The advantage of being his employer is you know everything and can access it easily.

How is the application going on 💐

HedgeOwl · 20/03/2021 13:52

OP, a lot of us come from abusive backgrounds. This is not an excuse for his behaviour towards you. I decided I wanted to be the exact opposite to my parents, I didn’t want anyone else to go through what I went through.

Your last post about never being allowed to sleep and having to get his stuff ready, I’m beyond words. You are being mentally and physically abused, he is using you as a slave and you are a prisoner. Can you pack an overnight bag and just leave and stay with your family? I promise you your family know what he is like and they are waiting for the day for you to ask for help to escape.

Mittens030869 · 20/03/2021 13:54

I can't get angry with him, as someone else suggested, because I understand why he is like this and I feel so sorry for him and what he went through.

That’s how it was with my abusive F. He had a toxic childhood, followed by the trauma of the Nazi occupation in Prague. His father and uncle were killed because of their resistance against the Nazis.

Add to that the fact that my F developed Parkinson’s Disease in his forties and you can see why my DM made excuses for the way he treated her. (She didn’t know that he was sexually abusing my DSis and me.) He was very controlling of her, accused her of cheating on him and wanted to know where she was at all times.

As a child, I thought this was because he loved her. As an adult, especially after reading his letters to her, I can see that it was about emotional abuse and control.

My DM was freed when he died 23 years ago. She was 58 then. Please don’t wait that long. You’re 36, which is young enough to start a completely new life.

And most of all, please don’t have DC with him. He’ll likely be as controlling towards them as he is towards you. And even if he isn’t, they’ll see the way he treats you and think that’s how relationships should be.

Itstimetoquit · 20/03/2021 14:16

This thread is heart breaking x

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RandomMess · 20/03/2021 15:12

He IS a monster.

He chooses to control you to fulfill his needs rather than working on himself.

He is vile and breaking you deliberately.

Tankflybosswalkjam · 20/03/2021 15:37

Please please keep talking, sharing, posting. I have no words to express how much I’m rooting for you!

LannieDuck · 20/03/2021 15:58

[quote namechangeforadvicepls]@Colourmeclear DH wakes me up every day. On work days, he'll get up and go to the bathroom to get ready and if I don't immediately also get up, he'll shout at me to from the bathroom and he'll get nastier every time. It takes me about 10 minutes to get all his stuff ready in the morning, even if there was 30 minutes of time I still have to get straight up and he will accuse me of "stressing him out before work" if I don't.

In all the time we've been together I've never had a lie in, except on the very, very rare occasion that he has one himself. He's an early riser, he wakes up really early every day. If I've begged him to let me have a lie in because I am ill or haven't slept well for a few nights (as I'm the opposite, find it really hard to quiet my mind enough to fall asleep so am often awake later than him) he will say okay but then he'll fidget in bed once he wakes up, he pushes me with his bum because he thinks it's subtle and I don't realise what he's doing, then make loads of noise getting up, then ask me if I want him to bring me a cup of tea up, then the dogs will run upstairs and dive on me because "they snuck past him". But if I say anything about being supposed to have a lie in, he says it wasn't his fault the dogs got past him or he was trying to be quiet/nice by offering a cup of tea[/quote]
It takes me about 10 minutes to get all his stuff ready in the morning

Do you mean 'stuff' like packed lunch, work equipment etc? Why do you have to get his stuff ready? Why doesn't he do it himself?

Does he get your stuff ready in the mornings?

The lines have been blurred here because you work for him. He's acting like your boss instead of your partner. You need to start looking for a new job (as well as looking to leave this relationship...)

Re the lie-ins - do you have a spare room? I would start sleeping there, possibly with the door locked so he can't 'accidentally' let the dogs in.