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To feel like my life is a prison?

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namechangeforadvicepls · 16/03/2021 11:52

I feel like my life is a prison.

I can't figure out which of my decisions are my own and which are me picking out of a few options my husband gave me. Don't get me wrong he is a good man and he is just trying to do what he thinks is best for us. He never tells me what to do but I do what I know he will want?

But my life has become smaller and smaller over the years we have been together. I was bubbly and funny and had a good circle of friends when we met. He wanted to go travelling so I didn't go to Uni to do so and don't get me wrong I did love travelling.

We got back and he set up a business and I went to work. Over the years, he asked me for more and more help in his business that I felt I couldn't say no to. I now work for him full time, from home.

I don't have any friends left, he has fallen out with all his family. I still see my Mum a couple of times a month (in normal times), but I don't see much of my sisters as he doesn't like their partners. He won’t go to things like if my mum had a barbeque or Sunday lunch at hers and my sisters are going, they do things like that often but we don’t go. I've noticed he seems to have stepped up how much he doesn't like them recently.

I've gained so much weight because I feel like all I can do is eat, that's the only fun thing I have left in my life. My weight has stopped us from having children. We're 36 and have been together 20 years. I feel like I didn't see being controlled coming, I was just a child and desperate to get away from my Mum who was also really controlling (she has got a lot better with time). It's only really the past few years since I have learned more about feminism that I have realised I never really felt I had any options, I always thought the most important thing was to have a husband and I have just sleep walked through my life.

Our life looks so perfect from the outside but inside I am miserable. I overheard him on the phone the other day telling my Mum how I had chosen our car. I don't like our car, it's so low and I struggle to get out of it but it was the best of the (bad) options he gave to me and totally opposite to what I would choose if I had free reign. But it's a Mercedes and I feel like I should be grateful about it? I would have picked an ecosport or a juke.

He is a workaholic and works outside of the home but has to do paperwork at home. He does this on an evening and on a weekend. I have to sit with him at the dining room table while he does this, even if that means staying up til midnight, getting up at 5am, or last Sunday he was doing it from about 10am-8pm. I do 100% of the mental load and housework and care of the dogs - he makes me a cup of tea once or twice a week. He often rings me 20 times a day when he is working - sometimes a genuine question about work but mostly to rant or talk while he is between jobs or driving. He likes me to be at home when he is.

Despite all this I do love him. (Although I don’t think I fancy him anymore. I have no sex drive at all.) He had a traumatic childhood and I can understand where his control issues come from and I do have sympathy for him and what he went through. He refuses to have counselling.

But I feel like I am an empty shell. My self confidence and self esteem is so low, I am so scared of life outside of this house, I would have absolutely nothing, no education, no career prospects and no money but I am so unhappy.

OP posts:
WildfirePonie · 19/03/2021 10:52

How are you today OP?

whateverhappenstomorrow · 19/03/2021 11:16

@GreenBalaclava

It's because he wants to control not only your actions but also your emotions. He's telling you how you are feeling (and why).
This.
Outbutnotoutout · 19/03/2021 12:19

You have two options

  1. Stay, you will be controlled for the rest of your life and that could be 50yrs. You can't even read a book without his permission.

2 Leave, yes it's scary, yes it will take you time to settle and feel free. But you will have 50yrs of freedom and friends and possibly a new partner who loves you and wants children with you.

It takes guts, but with support here and womens aid, you can't bloody well do it. Look at other women's stories who have done it before you.

🦅😊

Dragongirl10 · 19/03/2021 12:33

op your life sounds like hell......your dreams of your own home, a nice admin job with pleasant co workers is perfectly achievable...but you know that..
What you find so hard is disconnecting from him...but he is not a nice man, he doesn't do his best for you at all, that would be to be kind and supportive and encouraging...he does none of that.

He is the one who should be worried about Karma, not you, shake that worry off, you have gone so far above and beyond it is ludicrous.

It is seriously controlling to call you 14 times, not normal or healthy at all, but none of what you described is normal.

Please follow your heart, and try very hard to turn your attention to your escape plan, and apply all your energy to that rather than him, it will take a concerted effort as you are used to doing as you are told, but you CAN plan your escape.

KatharinaRosalie · 19/03/2021 14:53

I have just sleep walked through my life

You can stop, any time. Can you imagine your life without him? You can go to sleep when you want and wake up when you want. You can cook what - and when - pleases you. See your family and friends without someone moaning about it. Go to places without worrying what he will think about it and how he will punish you later. Wouldn't it be amazing?

namechangeforadvicepls · 19/03/2021 19:33

I've been feeling really down today, I just keep randomly bursting into tears.

I know I should leave him. It comes and goes in waves over the past few years that I want to leave him, I always blame it on the fact that when I have a period of low mood I want to leave him and it must just be because I feel down.

I did almost leave him last year but all my plans fell through and he talked me into staying. In some ways he has been much kinder to me but nothing has actually changed and here I am six months later and I still want to leave.

Leaving him is also leaving the idea of everything that I thought my life would be, I always just wanted to get married and be a Mum. I consume so much mum media, on here, instagram, youtube etc. If I do leave I can't see me ever wanting to have another relationship again and I won't have any chance at all of having a baby, as it's my issues that have stopped us conceiving. It seems like so much to give up.

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RandomMess · 19/03/2021 19:43
Thanks

He's been kinder but you are still not happy in the relationship and he cuts you off from having a life outside of him.

It's very sad you can't have DC yet your life is so unfulfilling not because of no DC but because there is only him in it. Where is YOU where are your passions, your family, your friends.

To have joy you need connections with others and you are forbidden that by him.

GreenBalaclava · 19/03/2021 20:09

So sad for you OP Sad

Dragongirl10 · 19/03/2021 20:11

Op the issue of wanting a baby is irrelevant here, you will never have the life you want, (anyone would want) with him.

He is horrible, and abusive.

Let go of the illusion of your marriage and look at the cold hard facts, that is all there is, but if you leave you could have a happy and fulfilling life.

RandomMess · 19/03/2021 20:14

You could foster or adopt as a single parent once you out of this several years down the line away from him.

whateverhappenstomorrow · 19/03/2021 20:17

I always blame it on the fact that when I have a period of low mood I want to leave him and it must just be because I feel down
You feel low because of him and the life you lead because of him. He is making you feel low about yourself and your life. That will keep repeating as long as you are with him,

Leaving him is also leaving the idea of everything that I thought my life would be, I always just wanted to get married and be a Mum
But you don't have that life whilst you stay with him, This is not the married life that you thought you would have is it? Staying with him means abandoning that dream of a good marriage and happy family. THAT is the reality you need to face.

Even if you did get pregnant with him, that would just enable him to increase his control of you. He would be able to use the child to control you. He would control your child. You would have the guilt of that as well as your own unhappiness.

That description of you having to sit at the table was awful. All of it.
The way he was stopping you from interacting with anyone else.
The way he was stopping your from having any joy or laughter from anyone else. The way he was instructing you to believe that you needed to prove your love by sitting in discomfort or boredom for hour after hour. The way he instructed you to submit yourself to the extent that you needed to accept your discomfort so that he felt good. The way he was demonstrating that he could make you do whatever you wanted, for hour after hour after hour at tremendous cost to yourself.
And you still think that he is being kinder to you. He has been like this to you for so long you can't really see what is right and what is wrong anymore. Nothing about what he is doing to you is kind.

Please reach out for proper help from an organisation like Women's Aid. They will be able to help to make the journey out of this nightmare that you live in.

achainisonlyasstrong · 19/03/2021 20:30

What happened last year when you tried to leave him? How did your plans fall through? I would give up any dream to be married and have children with him. Focus on a life you can build for yourself, having an admin job, going to work, going out in the evenings. Does that sound appealing? Ring women's aid.

cally8019 · 19/03/2021 20:41

Not read all the comments

This sounds like my friend a 3 years ago OP- when she was 33, she started dating the first person who would have her because she had been single a long time and was lonely.

They got married after 6 months and she was expected to give up her career to look after the house while he worked and play golf at the weekend. She was expected to be at home and clean all day, put a meal on the table and be at his beck and call 24/7.

She came to stay one weekend and I sat her down and told her I would give her the money to cover her living expenses if she left him until she got on her feet. She insisted she “loved him” (like you do with yours) but after hours managed to talk her round.

She is now running her own business, happily single and expecting a child through sperm donation. She is the happiest I have seen her in her entire life and I have known her for over 35 years.

You need to leave. You don’t love him- your just afraid, and forcing yourself to think that.

Imagine you had a child and she came to you and said her partner was treating them like this- would you want them to stay?

Dillparsleyandmint · 19/03/2021 20:42

@katy1213

Go to the barbecue. Stop answering the phonecalls. Presumably you get a salary for working in his business? Buy a car that suits you, you don't need anyone's permission. Walk away from the dining table and read a book or watch a film in another room. Make a few post-lockdown plans for one. You can book a museum/exhibition lot now and they're going fast. Look up an old friend and see if you can rekindle the friendship. Look for a job - you must have loads of management skills from running a family business. Volunteer - for anything, to get you out of the house. Don't enter into discussion about any of this. You don't need his permission to live. Open your mouth and shout! You need to hear your own voice - literally.
^^I was going to post and say exactly the same thing!

The crux of it all op, as Katy1213 says, is that "you don't need anyone's permission".

Please repeat this to yourself like a mantra. And then just ACT (differently to how you were acting before). Do what you want to do. No explanations necessary. Good luck Flowers

WildfirePonie · 19/03/2021 20:52

You need to start getting angry OP. What would he say/do if you stood up to him?

Megan2018 · 19/03/2021 21:03

@namechangeforadvicepls

I've been feeling really down today, I just keep randomly bursting into tears.

I know I should leave him. It comes and goes in waves over the past few years that I want to leave him, I always blame it on the fact that when I have a period of low mood I want to leave him and it must just be because I feel down.

I did almost leave him last year but all my plans fell through and he talked me into staying. In some ways he has been much kinder to me but nothing has actually changed and here I am six months later and I still want to leave.

Leaving him is also leaving the idea of everything that I thought my life would be, I always just wanted to get married and be a Mum. I consume so much mum media, on here, instagram, youtube etc. If I do leave I can't see me ever wanting to have another relationship again and I won't have any chance at all of having a baby, as it's my issues that have stopped us conceiving. It seems like so much to give up.

You cannot bring a child into this life, that would be completely irresponsible. If you choose to stay that’s one thing, but you can’t inflict it on a child. The abuse will escalate on you and your child will be damaged terribly. Starting your life without him is the hardest thing you will ever do, it will take huge courage -but the life beyond will always be better than this. Choose to live, not exist.
SheenMcQueen · 19/03/2021 21:07

OP what you are describing is the barrier of 'sunk costs'. It is one of the main reasons people stay in abusive relationships, but it is actually one the most deceptive and misleading of emotions.

You are assuming that if you leave, all that 'investment' in your marriage has gone to 'waste'. All that time, all that commitment, all those promises and so on and so forth. You feel like all those times you 'put up with things' will have been for nothing and then there's all that time you will then have to be alone before you meet someone else and isn't it just easier to sit on your investment and hope that it will come good in the end. Yes?

It won't come good. And you will look back in a year, in five years and realise you have sunk more costs into this project that really was nothing more than smoke and mirrors. And then you will have five more years of investment to justify walking away from. It's a sly dog that sunk costs thing.

And you know what?

That time you spent? That love you gave? The commitment you invested? It's not wasted if you leave. All of that was necessary for you to be sure that you did everything you could. And you did. And far more than anyone should have asked of you or was reasonable. You invested fully and properly and so you can be sure that when and if you leave, you will do it knowing that there was nothing more you could have done.

And all that time you invested was not wasted because you have learned so much. You have learned what a bad marriage looks like. You have seen what control looks like, you have found out how coercion can creep up on you - all so so valuable for your future happiness.

Sunk costs is a fallacy and will hold you back. Please don't let it.

Tankflybosswalkjam · 19/03/2021 21:16

Read this op. sunk cost in relatiinships
medium.com/mindful-muse/how-the-sunk-cost-fallacy-keeps-you-in-bad-relationships-7bea6742f51d

Comtesse · 20/03/2021 06:48

You poor love. The bad karma is HIS, all his - how dare he try to grind another human (you) down to nothing? He is the one who deserves to be punished, not you for not wanting to be suffocated.

Also - the surgery. Is he really making you have surgery you don’t really want? He can’t make you chop up your body - you don’t owe him that, not at all, never never never, I don’t care how hard he works.

Your mum doesn’t sound like the right port of call - how about your sisters? Would they help you? Flowers Flowers

SushiYum · 20/03/2021 07:59

@namechangeforadvicepls I did almost leave him last year but all my plans fell through and he talked me into staying. In some ways he has been much kinder to me but nothing has actually changed and here I am six months later and I still want to leave.

Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome. You need to get out of there. He will NEVER change. You will always be his servant.

Leaving him is also leaving the idea of everything that I thought my life would be, I always just wanted to get married and be a Mum. I consume so much mum media, on here, instagram, youtube etc. If I do leave I can't see me ever wanting to have another relationship again and I won't have any chance at all of having a baby, as it's my issues that have stopped us conceiving. It seems like so much to give up.

It’s not fair to bring an innocent child into this toxic household. He will treat his DC the same way he treats you. He might use his DC as a way to control you even more. If you want DC then find a man who respects you, go solo or look into adoption.

Apply for that admin job you mentioned. Please go TODAY. Is there a close friend or family member you can talk to? You could show them this thread or type out how you’re feeling.

Do NOT defend this psycho.

namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 08:04

He was going to work this morning but said as he was about to leave that he was picking someone up on the way and his van is a mess (he's a borderline hoarder) so he had to empty out the things from the front seat and asked me to help him, so I threw a coat on over my pyjamas and went to help.

He dumped a load of stuff on the pavement and then said "do you mind picking that up, I've got to go" I said to him "I'm in my pyjamas and if you move the van everyone will be able to see me" and he just said "I've got to go, I'm going to be late" and got his stuff, got in the van and went.

So I was literally crouched on the pavement, in my pyjamas and coat, picking up bits of his work stuff and dirty hats and food wrappers.

I feel like I need to check again, but - is this acceptable? I feel really embarrassed about it that I had to do it but not surprised either, I suspected when he was just putting stuff on the floor that he would ask me to clean it.

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Comtesse · 20/03/2021 08:08

No it’s not acceptable - he is mean and thoughtless. He is treating you like dirt - sorry Flowers

namechangeforadvicepls · 20/03/2021 08:09

@sheenmcqueen @tankflybosswalkjam yes I definitely think 'sunk costs' is something that keeps me from leaving, the thought of leaving 20 years of being together is scary. Also, I made it all part of my identity, getting married young and being childhood sweethearts, I thought I'd got the fairytale.

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SushiYum · 20/03/2021 08:09

@namechangeforadvicepls your OH should be your equal and best friend. They should want to do anything they can to keep you safe and happy. He is abusing you and your latest post just shows he doesn’t care.

Please leave today. Ring a woman’s charity/domestic abuse charity today. Go on a walk and ring them NOW. Can you speak to anyone in your family? Tell them everything. You need to get out of there.

DoverSoul · 20/03/2021 08:11

@namechangeforadvicepls

I've been feeling really down today, I just keep randomly bursting into tears.

I know I should leave him. It comes and goes in waves over the past few years that I want to leave him, I always blame it on the fact that when I have a period of low mood I want to leave him and it must just be because I feel down.

I did almost leave him last year but all my plans fell through and he talked me into staying. In some ways he has been much kinder to me but nothing has actually changed and here I am six months later and I still want to leave.

Leaving him is also leaving the idea of everything that I thought my life would be, I always just wanted to get married and be a Mum. I consume so much mum media, on here, instagram, youtube etc. If I do leave I can't see me ever wanting to have another relationship again and I won't have any chance at all of having a baby, as it's my issues that have stopped us conceiving. It seems like so much to give up.

Let me tell you, namechange, you will not be the same person once your husband is no longer in your life. He is making you feel the way you are just now, that will change when you are away from him.

Him being kinder to you after he managed to persuade you to stay is just his way of keeping you hanging on. It's what they all do. He is no different to any other abuser.

Leaving him feels like a huge, unobtainable thing just now. If you contact Women's Aid they will support you no matter what you decide to do. They will break it down into little chunks to make it more managable, they will help you build your confidence, they will listen to you, believe you and understand exactly what you're going through. If you don't feel ready to leave they won't force you, nothing will be lost. Please, at least, give them a ring and have a chat, it's won't tie you to something you can't get out of but it might just be the first step towards your new life Flowers

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