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Dating Thread 199 - Come on 2021....

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LongtimelurkerL · 26/01/2021 14:50

The Rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. Know your worth.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated 12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with 13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future 14. OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy.

Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item

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AreWeOrAreWeNot · 16/02/2021 17:09

Re: staying friends with an ex. When my marriage broke up over 5 years ago, I met someone through OLD. He became a haven for me, gave me his house key within a couple of weeks (ex still living in the same house as me) - but we were total opposites so things didn't work out. We were together a couple of years but I finished it a few times. We just weren't sorted as a couple. I always did a lot of his paperwork when we were together and this has continued since we split, I know all his passwords for his bank stuff - we have a wonderful, trusting relationship now - I have truly made a great friend and one I treasure - he is with someone else now and I honestly hope it works out - we talk openly about our love life - so friends with exes can work out - he supports me and I support him.

Onesmallstep67 · 16/02/2021 17:28

Some really good points and reminders about Mr V and the potential for us to become financially tied into his house purchase together. From the relationship point of view we have a few more hurdles to clear yet, like properly dating without the backdrop of a pandemic. I'd like to go on holiday with him or even spend more than 48 hrs together which is pretty much the longest stretch we have managed. I also need to feel more integrated into his world.
Financially I am pretty savvy. I will protect my ( ample Wink) assets whatever arrangement I have with any man going forward. We have touched on this when talking about the future and I would categorically look at something legal stating that what is mine is my own etc. He really wants the opportunity to benefit from the discount the council will give him and said IF we did go into it together but then split up he would be prepared to sell the property or find the money to buy me back out. For the time being I will encourage and support him to do this without my financial involvement although in general he is just not as proactive as he should be. And I had felt that the longer he dithers, the longer it will be before we could move our RS onto the next step. One for the ' pending and review in a few months' file.

confused1974 · 16/02/2021 17:34

@HairyArsedMan I was busy when he sent the text (a very innocent one) and then I thought about seeing how persistent he would be (my exes were very persistent). I guess I'll either reply tomorrow or let it go I am not sure whether he was such a promising potential partner.

While here could I ask you something else? February last year I matched with someone living abroad. He flew over to see me in February and I said I wasn't interested (texted him after the date).
We kept chatting and I actually did become interested but he was only texting every 10 days or so. I pulled him up on it but he didn't change so in October I blocked him. However I'm still thinking about him. Would it be weird to text an hello? As I said he lives abroad and works there (3-4 hours away) but I think he was considering relocating to the UK at some point.

Thanks for the advice

Mayzee · 16/02/2021 17:34

I only have my ex husband as an ex and I don’t want to be friends with him. The two irons I progressed things further than date 1 with are not proper exes in my eyes. Mr Blue eyes popped up a few times asking after me and I was politely chatty and could probably be friendly with him but I know he only made contact to reconnect sexually!
I still would hate to think of Mr German with someone else so no. Not that he would ever contact me anyway.

I really don’t see the point so far to keep exes as friends - I can’t make time for my old friends as it is.

TheCatWithTheHat · 16/02/2021 17:36

@confused1974 I'd agree with HairyArsedMan - in the early days of conversation, if you don't get a reply from someone it's a gentle way of saying "thanks, but no thanks", and I personally wouldn't usually send a follow up message.

ThisTooShallBeFantastic · 16/02/2021 17:51

@confused1974 when you blocked the second guy in October, did you tell him why? If not, effectively you ghosted him, so I very much doubt he would be interested now.

Persistence in a guy is a tricky one. I think we're all aware of the dangers of lovebombing, which is characterised by persistence, but also we want men to 'show they're interested' and we know 'if a man wants you, he lets you know'. It's a delicate balance for them, as the lovely threadmen have verified. To me it's just best to be open and honest in communications, message if you have something interesting to say etc. No playing games.

confused1974 · 16/02/2021 17:56

@ThisTooShallBeFantastic I didn't tell the guy in October that I would block him. As I said in September I told him that I found his texting frequency unacceptable. I think he was already losing interest as until the summer he used to text me daily. I guess I will continue my quest. I am just glad that I didn't sleep with any of the men I dated (about 10 in the past 2 years I kissed one but decided he wasn't what I was looking for).
It's not a matter of playing games but I really enjoy being actually desired and wanted. As I said back on hinge and tinder it is for me! I will be honest while I haven't found the one I actually have met some really interesting men and I'm totally enjoying the process!

UtterSocks · 16/02/2021 18:04

@Eesha I'd happily review your profile but am not on any apps apart from OKC (and I don't go on that anymore but I like all my profile pics on it so it is on pause rather than deleting it and having to find them all on my phone again when it goes tits up with Mr G) So if it is possible for me to do it some other way am happy to (I work in comms, I sell things. Even people!)

@confused1974 I don't see the point of setting invisible hurdles for people to fall over. I never double message new people, I just assume disinterest if they don't reply and politely move on. Additionally, persistence doesn't mean a thing. Some of the worst types love bomb you at first with multiple messages then ghost when they feel they have 'won' - and indeed it makes me suspicious when people can't take no for an answer. If you like the guy, reply. If you have doubts about him, don't.

@Onesmallstep67 I'm afraid I would run a million, million miles from financial entanglement with ANYONE I met online dating. Even if I stayed with someone for years I would keep our finances separate (unless he was an 80 year old millionaire 😂😂😂). But then I have been burned by that myself and find it very triggering indeed.

Thanks for all your kind advice re: Mr G. @ThisTooShallBeFantastic - that's the thing though, when I am with him there is no 'drama' to step away from. He is one of the calmest men I have ever met. Which I love as my ex was volatile and foul tempered. I just refuse to talk about it, but yes, I am resigned to one day stepping away, @Notcoolmum. His ex seems to be a parasite and create enough drama for an army. Even hearing about her makes me feel like I've switched on the Jeremy Kyle Show. And I suspect he underplays it. I must admit I do question why he got involved with her in the first place, or stayed. But then if you saw my ex husband, you would seriously send me away to be sectioned. So I know how someone can get worse and worse over time.

@TheCatWithTheHat - Mr Local (I may as well call him Mr L cos he isn't going anywhere) pre-dates Mr G. By about 6 weeks. He made it very clear, right from his OKC profile that he didn't want a relationship. We have nothing in common and he is 13 years younger than me. I went into it clear-eyed. The sex is amazing. I see him every week once a week and we also watch crap TV and talk about inconsequential rubbish, maybe have a beer. We rarely send more than one or two short messages a week. It's been 6 months. He's great. He stops me getting over invested in anyone else (or putting all my eggs into one bastard as someone once said. After Mr Beard I am so wary of getting hurt I would do a 180 if I even started to feel the way I did about him). I don't discuss Mr L with anyone really - it's like a hermetically sealed bit of my life that is just for me and gives me no grief. If Mr G wasn't in the position he is then maybe I would end it, but actually I don't want to.

@HairyArsedMan and @DudeFromThatLondon - sorry you both had to go through significant losses to make a clean break. I really do not know how adults can't stand on their own two feet. I haven't had a penny for my kids from my ex for 3 years. I CBA even asking. I'd be ashamed to death to be him. I did ask him when he surprised me with divorce papers and said he wanted what he was entitled to, did he mean legally or morally? And he said "legally" without a trace of shame, knowing that the two things are not the same. Even my DS telling him he should be embarrassed had no effect. I pray every day that neither of my kids is dumb enough to marry and I hope they both get pre-nups if they do!

WeWantTheFinestWines · 16/02/2021 19:06

@UtterSocks putting all my eggs in one bastard just made me spit my wine out Grin Grin

Eesha · 16/02/2021 19:45

@UtterSocks thanks for offering, pming you now!

UtterSocks · 16/02/2021 20:11

[quote WeWantTheFinestWines]@UtterSocks putting all my eggs in one bastard just made me spit my wine out Grin Grin[/quote]
Oh no, I hope it wasn't one of the Finest Wines! I'd feel guilty if so 😂

WeWantTheFinestWines · 16/02/2021 20:58

And again 🤣🤣🤣

cravingthelook · 17/02/2021 14:09

I haven't read the thread in a couple weeks, sorry!

I won't go into what's going on because I'm figuring that out.

But I wanted to say I've seen it all now.... tinder showed me a guy holding a crocodile this morning. Only 1 other photo ... a shitly taken landscape. And a profile indicating he wants another kid with the right woman. WTF?

HairyArsedMan · 17/02/2021 14:12

It seemed to work out all right for Crocodile Dundee 🤷‍♂️

cravingthelook · 17/02/2021 14:15

@UtterSocks Love that phrase and I'm there.
Mr SAS is someone I see once or twice a fortnight. We are happy with that. He knows about and chats details of all my potential matches. He loves it. It's part of the fun. He spots an arrogant twat at 20 paces and a single read of a profile 😂😂

It defo keeps me from putting all my eggs in one bastard

Like Mr Hometown.... that I'm figuring out pretty well now. I'm not ready to talk about this one and his whatever the fuck it is fears about feelings

cravingthelook · 17/02/2021 14:16

@HairyArsedMan you never fail to make me smile 😊 how goes it for you?

HairyArsedMan · 17/02/2021 16:57

Glad I can raise a smile @cravingthelook. Would your man be able to de-arrogant my profile too ? I'm holding up an elephant with one hand and leaning against my Maserati with the other, in my shades Grin

Things are as well as they can be in the circumstances. I'm doing a fine job of getting swiped left on by the women I swipe right on. It's becoming quite a skill.

On the general wellbeing thing (opening this up to a quick thread straw poll) - hands up who has lockdown related insomnia ?

Slothmomma · 17/02/2021 17:26

🙋‍♀️ me hairyarsedman - barely slept a wink last night - very annoying

havecourage8bekind · 17/02/2021 17:56

@hairyarsedman lockdown insomnia here too!

DudeFromThatLondon · 17/02/2021 17:57

Good for Crocodile Dundee, not so well for Steve Irwin..Maybe he should have stuck to crocodiles ...

+1 for insomnia. Early rising

Interesting re remaining friends and a good point about finding time for the friends you already have. I think I just live in some half-deluded fantasy world in which everything would turn out more or less ok.

SleepyBunk · 17/02/2021 18:02

@HairyArsedMan

My sleep routine is always screwed Envy due to general work/study/illness chaos over the last few years.

Sorry for pointing out the obvious but I do find big physical exercise works when I commit to it (I think you’re normally a Cardio focussed runner/cyclist...? try some weights/resistance stuff at home so you’re tiring yourself out a bit. Mix it up and try a new workout or yoga from YouTube?)

It won’t solve everything but I find it definitely improves my outlook.

Plus when I do get back into dating I’ll be happily putting my spring/summer dresses on like Grin which is a side benefit!

ThisTooShallBeFantastic · 17/02/2021 18:20

I have the reverse of insomnia - I can't wait to go to bed and can't be arsed to get out of it in the morning. I'm just plain bored so I sleep. But a big Yes to fresh air and exercise, they're key to my sanity (and probably my sleep, I don't know).

Heartbeats0708 · 17/02/2021 18:40

Couldn't agree more with your post @ThisTooShallBeFantastic I can't wait to go to bed at night. I like to do a bit of crochet/kindle time before sleep to wind down but I start getting twitchy if I'm not tucked up before 9!

Eesha · 17/02/2021 19:36

@ThisTooShallBeFantastic yes, I'm in bed now with my toddlers. Rock and roll!

WeWantTheFinestWines · 17/02/2021 19:48

I find nodding off in front of the TV and then waking up in time for bed makes for a nicely messed up start to the night. If I leave it late enough, I can usually get to sleep with the help of a podcast. Then I wake up at 4. Go back to sleep around 5. Alarm goes off 6.30 😐 Spend the day yawning...

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