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He Can’t Make Me Orgasm!

110 replies

zigzog44 · 15/01/2021 11:40

Hi,

I’m wondering if anyone could give me advice, or how to approach this. I’ve been with my partner for a long time now and he’s never once brought me to orgasm, he’s not skilled with his fingers or tongue. He’s acknowledged the fact he can’t pleasure me, like I can pleasure myself but I can’t understand why he hasn’t tried and gone out of his way to try and learn how to do this, there’s plenty of pointers online (I’ve tried to show/guide him to no avail.) I have for many years accepted this but I am slowly going off sex because I know I won’t orgasm during sex and i feel deflated. I bring him to orgasm through oral/hand/sex and it feels like I’ve always missed out. How can I approach this with him? I don’t want to spend the rest of my life never experiencing an orgasm with him. I don’t want to leave him!

OP posts:
Chamomileteaplease · 15/01/2021 12:04

So he's acknowledged this and you have tried to show/guide him but there has been no improvement.

Sounds like you unhappily accepted the situation and he was either too intimidated or too lazy to sort it out.

So, as you obviously aren't happy, and who would be (??), you will have to approach the topic again. But more firmly!

Tell him you really want him to learn to stimulate you properly and that he needs to put some effort in. Let him know that this is a big deal for you and it matters!

Make it an issue! He needs to step up.

Wanderlusto · 15/01/2021 12:06

I think you have to make it a non negotiable to sex. Perhaps: he has to make you orgasm first before sex.

What's happening? Is it just that his technique is consistently bad no matter what you do? Or is it that he does a little then loses interest, expecting you to then pleasure him?

I would wonder if he was being deliberately shit because he doesn't care about your pleasure. How is he in the relationship in general? Does he display any selfish tendencies?

FippertyGibbett · 15/01/2021 12:07

Take his fingers and show him what he needs to do.
If he can’t be bothered, because he’s quite happy with what he’s getting, then you need to consider what you are prepared to put up with.

Josuk · 15/01/2021 12:07

OP - I am sorry sex feels unfulfilling and you aren’t enjoying it. There are many women who struggle with orgasms during sex, so you aren’t alone in that.
How has it been with other partners for you? Have any been able to get you there?
And how long have you been together and has he tried to do what you showed him? Or has it just not worked?

I think you are being a bit unfair on your partner if he did indeed tried things you suggested and they didn’t work. I don’t necessarily think it’s a matter of ‘skills’.
And it’s unlikely that pointers off the Internet would somehow change anything
A female orgasm is a complicated beast and he can’t be blamed for why it’s not happening for you - as our orgasm are part physical, part in our heads sort of thing...

If you know how to make yourself climax - what’s stoping you from incorporating that into sex with him? And rather than expecting him to get you there, just make him a participant. Get him to do different things and who knows, maybe some of the things you try may start feeling better for you.

The other important point is that just like men - women can have their own version of “death grip”. If your body is trained to climax from a particular sensation delivered by you in a way YOU are used to doing it - than you will struggle to come any other way. It’s a vicious circle, really. So the way to break it is to start incorporating new sensations and giving him a role in it.

Branleuse · 15/01/2021 12:07

slowly going off sex? Youre patient. I think Id have stopped after a couple of goes where I didnt get mine

Hellothere19999 · 15/01/2021 12:13

Yeah I wouldn’t have last as long as you OP. Have you thought about trying a vibrator? And he does it? Never fails. Circular motion. Jobs a gooden.

Keratinsmooth · 15/01/2021 12:15

Get a small buzzy bullet thing and show him where to place it?

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/01/2021 12:17

It sounds like he doesn’t care.

How long have you been having crap sex? It doesn’t have to be like this.

NotSoProudMary · 15/01/2021 12:18

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Branleuse · 15/01/2021 12:19

Shes already says she can pleasure herself. Its hardly a replacement for mutual sexual enjoyment together.
Female orgasm isnt complicated or mysterious. Its the same as for men. The right mindset and arousal coupled with enough stimulation.
If a sexual partner isnt interested in doing this for you, then hes doing sex to you rather than mutually enjoying and exciting each other.

FippertyGibbett · 15/01/2021 12:27

I think that a lot of it is mental. If you’re going into sex wondering if it’s going to happen, and assuming it’s not, you’re on a loser before you start.
I think he has to want to put this right. But I’m going to assume he doesn’t want to because he’s ok.

My DH had a MH issues and was put on antidepressants, and it affected his libido. We went from great sex to him needing me on top, banging away for about 20 minutes, for him to come. By the time he did I was knackered and resentful.
We now don’t have sex as it’s just not worth it when I can do the job in minutes myself.

wizzbangfizz · 15/01/2021 12:31

He is selfish pure and simple - it isn't rocket science and yes he can learn.

category12 · 15/01/2021 12:42

Have you asked him why he doesn't even try?

peak2021 · 15/01/2021 13:05

It's not difficult for most men to be able to please a woman.

Either you have low self-esteem accepting this, or there must be some wonderful qualities he has away from the bedroom which you have not told us about.

Sandals19 · 15/01/2021 13:14

I've had the same issue and it's extremely frustrating: don't know if it's lazyness, selfishness or as someone said feeling intimidated (or a combination).

If you've shown him clearly and he won't persevere, all I can suggest is a bullet vibrator either one of you hold .. or a vibrating cock ring.

Anothernick · 15/01/2021 14:28

"I can't understand why he hasn't tried and gone out of his way to try and learn"

Nor can I. Satisfying your DP is in itself very stimulating and a great ego booster to us men as it demonstrates your skill as a lover. And it really isn't that difficult.....

BornIn78 · 15/01/2021 14:33

Question: I can’t understand why he hasn’t tried and gone out of his way to try and learn how to do this

Answer: I have for many years accepted this

It's all right there in your OP... the answer to why he hasn't gone out of his way to do anything about it.

VioletSunset · 15/01/2021 14:42

My ex was the same, for 6 years I didn't have a single orgasm with him. He hated giving oral or using his hands, he actually thought I was awkward for not being able to cum from PIV and said it was my problem, and all other women had no trouble orgasming without any clit stimulation. Good riddance imo, lol

zigzog44 · 15/01/2021 14:58

@Josuk - He hasn’t tried long enough to pleasure me, he’s taken the stance that he can’t pleasure me and so thinks it’s not possible. I already do self-play during sex but I’d really like it if he brought me to orgasm. Sometimes when it’s that time of the month, I will give him oral until he climaxes but knowing he can’t do the same to me is frustrating. It’s not been a problem in my previous relationship, so I know I’m not complicated and difficult to bring to orgasm.
I think what I’m looking for is ways to approach the situation, so he knows how much it bothers me, I don’t want to be hostile but I want to assert myself so it doesn’t carry on like it always has. I think lack of experience and confidence are the main factors for him.

OP posts:
shitinmyhandsandclap · 15/01/2021 15:03

You say you've been together a long time, you really should be able to talk to him about this, if he's still not willing to try I'd be fucking him off.

YoniAndGuy · 15/01/2021 15:05

[quote zigzog44]@Josuk - He hasn’t tried long enough to pleasure me, he’s taken the stance that he can’t pleasure me and so thinks it’s not possible. I already do self-play during sex but I’d really like it if he brought me to orgasm. Sometimes when it’s that time of the month, I will give him oral until he climaxes but knowing he can’t do the same to me is frustrating. It’s not been a problem in my previous relationship, so I know I’m not complicated and difficult to bring to orgasm.
I think what I’m looking for is ways to approach the situation, so he knows how much it bothers me, I don’t want to be hostile but I want to assert myself so it doesn’t carry on like it always has. I think lack of experience and confidence are the main factors for him.[/quote]
No. They aren't. From what you describe, it's sheer laziness and lack of care.

Reverse it. Would you do the same to him. 'Aw hun, I've tried. Oh well, looks like I can't do it. So soreeeee! Ok, where do you want me to lay so you can start on me?'

Honestly, this is a pretty big red flag full stop, because if he cared about you, your joint sex life, your connection... he would no longer be inexperienced or unconfident because he would have continued to try, every time you had sex. That would be normal. This is lazy, selfish and uncaring.

What do you do? You stop worrying about appearing possibly 'hostile' to a man who has made it clear he doesn't give a shit about your sex life as long as his is fine. You just shrug and say 'Aw sorry hun, not in the mood, it's a toughie you see when I know I won't come.'

If he sulks or persuades, you tell him you're willing to try again at him being able to make you come if he is willing. Broken record. But you never do him first. Because you're not in the mood yet.

It will honestly be a good acid test to see how this bloke reacts to this, because honestly my gut feeling here is that you're with a selfish shit who will be a selfish shit in other areas of life.

category12 · 15/01/2021 15:10

You can try saying "look dude, I love you but I'm tired of not getting off during sex while you do. I know you reckon you can't get me there, but you're not even trying anymore and I'm starting to resent it, so it's like this - either we work on both of us having a good time, or I'm going to stop getting you off."

BumbleBiscuit · 15/01/2021 15:11

I bring him to orgasm through oral/hand/sex

Stop! Or get him to the brink and then don’t go any further. Say it’ll resume when he gets you off.

CornedBeef451 · 15/01/2021 15:11

I have the same problem. At various times over the years I've shown DH, talked about it in and out of the bedroom and now it's been 2 years since we had sex and he seems to have no idea why.

I instigated non sexual massage to try and connect but he said "it doesn't do anything for me so I'd rather not" which ironically is exactly how I feel about sex.

No advice I'm afraid, just stock up on batteries.

Ren1975 · 15/01/2021 15:12

HE CANT MAKE ORGASM!!!

That's a little bit of a cop out though?

We should, hopefully, know how to make ourselves orgasm? Surely.

Therefore, all we have to do is teach. I'm pretty sure our partners aren't mind readers?

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