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He wants a baby but not marriage (yet)

143 replies

Dancingone321 · 07/01/2021 20:23

We've been together for 3 years and lived together pretty much the whole time. Its always felt totally right and everything fell into place. He has two kids from 2 women (8&5). Now I've always said I wanted kids and he was fine with that. I felt ready much earlier but he's said he's now ready and wants to try. But one of my biggest things is that he says he doesn't want to get married yet. I said about going to the registry office and having something sent and simple because I don't want a big day and tbh we wouldn't be able to afford to save for a big white wedding. If rather save that money to have a baby as we have both agreed we don't want an even bigger gap between our baby and his eldest. He says its just a piece of paper and that he doesnt want to have to do it cheap but I feel like if he can't commit to marriage then how can he happily have a child with me? We don't own our home or anything or make loads more than each other everything we own we both paid for its not like if we divorced id be taking away his stuff I just dont get it and don't know what to do 😭

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SuitedandBooted · 10/01/2021 01:14

He's not a man anyone should marry - he's happy being a Baby Father. Just knocks up his girlfriends, and then move on

23 and looking to create child number 3? And you see future with him? I feel so sorry for some kids. They are being let down by their parents before they are even born Sad

PurpleTrilby · 10/01/2021 01:28

Okay, my take is your hormones are screaming "get pregnant now!". Mine did in my early 20s. Absolutely the worst thing I could have done then was get pregnant. So I didn't. I used my brain to do the right thing by me and any future child. Tell your raging hormones and this loser to fuck off. Really, give your head a wobble in the cold light of day. Have a wank instead of fucking some guy who's too young for this shit anyway, and fucking your life up in the process.

Regularsizedrudy · 10/01/2021 01:53

Don’t be a mug. He doesn’t want to marry you because he KNOWS it will stop him from doing what he has done previously

FuriousWithTheNHS · 10/01/2021 08:34

your hormones are screaming "get pregnant now!". Mine did in my early 20s. Absolutely the worst thing I could have done then was get pregnant. So I didn't. I used my brain to do the right thing by me and any future child.

Put that on a T-shirt, will you? It's something so many very young women need to hear. Again and again and again until it sinks in.

pinkyredrose · 10/01/2021 08:42

He had 2 kids with different mothers by 18. That's not great is it.

Notmoresugar · 10/01/2021 11:03

In the kindest way possible, you really need to start opening your eyes.

This will be the biggest mistake of your life.

Bekilted · 10/01/2021 11:14

He sounds grim.

LemonSquirtInTheEyeOfLife · 10/01/2021 11:30

I would not choose to have a child with a man that was not willing to get married first. Not because of the "sanctity of marriage" or anything, but because he can't just easily walk away. More often, it's mothers that are left with the majority of the physical, financial & emotional responsibility for their DCs after relationships fail. At least marriage protects you a bit against that. Plus it's just harder for them to leave & there's more stigma versus leaving an informal relationship.

However this man doesn't sound like catch of the day. Why is he resistant to marriage? Not wanting to get married cheaply is a bullshit reason, TBH. He's got 2 DCs & wants another? Who's going to pay for it? Unless he's a high earner or expecting a large inheritance, doesn't add up.

catatecheese · 10/01/2021 11:48

Absolutely do not get pregnant by this man. 23 and planning a 3rd by 3rd woman! Run run run.
Bad choice woman.
You are correct about no marriage no baby btw you have some sense so not all is lost.
Tell him you will consider it in 10 years when he has a decent job a mortgage and are married!

PaigeMatthews · 10/01/2021 11:55

He says its just a piece of paper and that he doesnt want to have to do it cheap

Which is it then? Because that is a contradiction. How old are you? What’s he? 23/24?

What’s your job op and your career goals? Do you own a house?

What is his job? What are his career goals?

80sPrincess · 06/05/2023 17:22

Your boyfriend is simply a serial impregnator. The fact that he has two children by two different women should have you thinking twice about being in a relationship with him in the first place, has it ever occurred to you that he may have said the exact same things to the mothers of his two kids about marriage and then once the babys come along the relationship HAS to end before she gets the ring and then he can go to find himself another cheap surrogate.

If he didn't marry his two baby mothers why would he marry you? All three of you have something in common-HIM. And he's just about to lay the final trap before putting you on his shelf of conquests. If you havent already or you're still together-DO NOT CONCEIVE WITH THIS MAN HE'S DYSFUNCTIONAL AND UNSTABLE!

baileys6904 · 06/05/2023 17:53

@80sPrincess now that you've slated the bloke ( u OK hun?) perhaps actually read the full thread and see that he's the one using protection and the OP desperate for a child whilst still at college. Then also maybes realise its from over 2 years ago?

Offthexmaslist · 06/05/2023 18:37

Why would you ??

As I have told all my daughters - four of them ... if he doesn't live you enough to marry you he certainly is t good enough to be a father .. end of ...

3 are married to fantastic men and consequently brilliant and engaged fathers ..the fourth says she doesn't need a 'piece of paper ' ... she is sadly misinformed.. I thank God every day she isn't expecting..

Offthexmaslist · 06/05/2023 18:40

OwlWearingGlasses · 07/01/2021 22:46

A baby is a much bigger commitment than marriage.

No it's NOT !!

A man can skip off owing nothing big child support if he meets someone he fancied more !!

Because he didn't take a deep in salary through maternity he has MUCH more in his pension that YOU have no claim on ... wake up and smell the coffee

Gorganzolabrie · 06/05/2023 18:44

Zombie thread. OP hasn't posted in over two years.

BackAgainstWall · 06/05/2023 23:33

You know the answer already. He doesn’t want commitment with you.

Why would you knowingly short change yourself?

Open your eyes 💐

Anaemiafog · 06/05/2023 23:44

I know this is a zombie but I'd love an update.

Naunet · 07/05/2023 08:19

FuriousWithTheNHS · 09/01/2021 18:18

Just imagine a guy meets a woman with two kids already and has decided he'd like to settle down and marry her, have children of his own with her. Do you imagine he'd have to sit and read these responses?

She's 23 with two kids by two men?!! Please, run a mile from this loser.

2 DC with 2 different fathers already - at 23.

Surely you want better for yourself and your future children than THIS Jeremy Kyle style shit show?
A woman with ambitions for 4 x 4?

Set the bar higher OP, for the good of humanity.

OP, is this really what you aspire to from life?

Do you want to be one of 4 blokes that all have a baby with this waster?

Why would you want to have a baby with such a loser? She has two children by two different men. Surely you have better standards. I wouldn't have got involved with her in the first place.

Don't you believe you can do better than this irresponsible loser?

She already has two kids from 2 men (8&5). Seriously, OP? Are you certifiably mad?

She's not an amazing mum. She's a feckless loser

What's with her that she's determined to procreate with every boyfriend she has?

Just no. Please listen to the others’ advice. You’re worth more than that.

Please please please never marry or have a child with this woman... 2 men have left her... Why?

This woman has form for extremely immature behaviour. Two children by two different fathers by an age at which none of my friends had even left uni.

anyone daft enough to plan a baby at 15 is probably still fairly daft at 23.

2 kids with two different men by the age of 23, I'm sorry it's a bit much.

OP do you think it's just a coincidence that both of these men she's had kids with have left her?

Also at 23 can she really support 3 kids??

Just thought I'd do this for a bit of perspective. I'll hold my hands up and say I have no issue with being equally critical of women who irresponsibly have children too young and with multiple partners. How many people on this thread could say the same?

There seems to be a real double standard on MN where this is concerned. A woman with two or three kids by two or three men would get nothing but support for having just been 'unlucky' in relationships and 'how was she to know he'd turn out to be a waste of space?' and generally hailed as some sort of hero/martyr, not having her character, her judgement, her commitment and her ability to parent well called into question, let alone having people suggest that as both the fathers of her children have left her, she must clearly be the one who is fundamentally flawed and therefore isn't worth getting involved with in future. Hmm

You think if a 23 year old woman who has 2 kids by two different men, came on here and said she was planning her 3rd, she would get nothing but support?! My god, the poor Menz worriers live on another planet sometimes.

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