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So the the grass belonging to the OW wasn't really greener then was it?!

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jemimathecat · 07/12/2020 12:53

This is light hearted post but I just wanted to hear if there were any stories out there where your partner/spouse went off with the OW and the grass suddenly turned to mud?!!
After being deeply hurt, I now find myself chuckling when I think of the ex (mid 50's) back to changing nappies and sleepless nights and telling his mother that he has no time for himself and cannot BELIEVE how expensive baby formula is!!
Most of his friends are driving sports cars and have grown up kids (like we also do) yet the only thing he's driving is a new double buggy ! LOL!

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Mitzimccormack · 09/12/2020 08:38

I have owned and run pubs for many years. You would not believe how many middle aged men I have had crying into their beer over the years about just this. They marry a girl about their age, do the traditional family thing. Wife has babies so he is no longer centre of attention. He feels left out, some (usually younger) woman from work, gym whatever finds him attractive. Has affair. Wife finds out, boots him out. Marries new girl, and repeat. Having said that I also saw an awful lot of slightly older chaps whose wives had ditched them, some with young families, some when the kids left home, and they were desperately sad. These guys would lose everything. Their homes, their kids, their social circles and you could see how bewildered they were. Often it was obvious that the wives had outgrown them. But still very sad.

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hcoe21 · 09/12/2020 09:05

He may be having a tough time with a baby - as they can be hard work. But he will never regret leaving you, as the baby will get older and he will have unconditional love for it. I am sure he may have no time for himself, but he is probably happy most of the time. And has many happy years ahead with his new family.

I am sure what he did to you really hurt, and was not fair. Instead of gloating on his unhappiness (that you have exagerated in your head) look within to see if you can forgive him. In the long run you'll be much happier yourself if his situation doesn't have any affect on you.

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 09/12/2020 09:16

Let's hope he has unconditional love for his child - many fathers on this thread appear not to have had much regard for their children's well-being!
Mostly people do love their kids and don't regret them because they are biologically predisposed to loving them - doesn't mean he won't miss his old life or wish he was sitting in a nice restaurant at the weekend, instead of soft play!

Rustyplastic · 09/12/2020 09:17

@hcoe21

He may be having a tough time with a baby - as they can be hard work. But he will never regret leaving you, as the baby will get older and he will have unconditional love for it. I am sure he may have no time for himself, but he is probably happy most of the time. And has many happy years ahead with his new family.

I am sure what he did to you really hurt, and was not fair. Instead of gloating on his unhappiness (that you have exagerated in your head) look within to see if you can forgive him. In the long run you'll be much happier yourself if his situation doesn't have any affect on you.

Well that’s crap too . How exactly do you KNOW he will have unconditional love for the baby as it grows up . My father certainly didn’t for me and my siblings . Neither do several other fathers I know . Might presumptuous of you Also presumptuous of you saying he won’t regret leaving her . As we have seen here many many men have returned to their exes begging for another chance after regretting leaving Funny that you tell someone else they are overexacgerating when the only one who seems to be doing that YOU
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winniestone37 · 09/12/2020 09:22

It’s nearly 20 years ago now and I moved on very quickly and he was gutted. He’s stayed with the other women but she’s bonkers. Even now I get the odd accusatory message from her and we have v little to do with one another now as kids are grown up 😂 and for the record I was never bitter- for our kids sake I had them both stay with me one Christmas much to everyone’s shock. I’ve enjoyed being the bigger person and watching him wondering if it was all worth it whilst having a better life. I actually feel sorry for him now.

20shadesofgreen · 09/12/2020 09:24

Wife has babies so he is no longer centre of attention. He feels left out

Gosh that is such an ego centric way for these men to think, isn’t it?.

‘Women who are only there supposed to play a supporting role in their life have been distracted in that by “the mother’s children” note not his children. The misogyny is so stark.

frazzledasarock · 09/12/2020 09:24

@hcoe21

He may be having a tough time with a baby - as they can be hard work. But he will never regret leaving you, as the baby will get older and he will have unconditional love for it. I am sure he may have no time for himself, but he is probably happy most of the time. And has many happy years ahead with his new family.

I am sure what he did to you really hurt, and was not fair. Instead of gloating on his unhappiness (that you have exagerated in your head) look within to see if you can forgive him. In the long run you'll be much happier yourself if his situation doesn't have any affect on you.

It’s amazing how these men have ‘unconditional’ love for the child with OW. But not with their first children.

I’ve seen men who leave (read forced to leave as wife has had enough and divorces his sorry arse), really regret their actions.

Ex actually sent a a court response to my divorce petition stating there was no reason for divorce it was a private matter 😂

Less funny he had thugs go round to my families house in the middle of the night to make threats unless I withdrew the divorce petition.

I’ve heard and seen plenty of men who regret setting fire to their own lives.

Rustyplastic · 09/12/2020 09:32

‘It’s amazing how these men have ‘unconditional’ love for the child with OW. But not with their first children’

Exactly , maybe hcoe21 can explain how he/she knows they will have unconditional love for these children of there second relationships and why that might be so Smile

wewillmeetagain · 09/12/2020 10:00

Well my ex certainly doesn't have unconditional love for his child with OW. He frequently tells me he wishes it had never been born and every time he looks at it all he sees is what it's cost him. Poor child

hcoe21 · 09/12/2020 10:17

I don't know he'll have unconditional love for his child, but hopefully he will. They may become very close. The baby period is only a short time, and once he's over that I am sure it will become smoother. Let hope that's the case!

My point was, if you can accept the situation and that people are just human, and sometimes hurt one another unintentionally...forgiveness may be a better route to move toward. Rather than bitterness. As you will be the one who loses twice in that instance. And you deserve to be happy and not have this continue to hurt you.

20shadesofgreen · 09/12/2020 10:25

My point was, if you can accept the situation and that people are just human, and sometimes hurt one another unintentionally...forgiveness may be a better route to move toward. Rather than bitterness. As you will be the one who loses twice in that instance. And you deserve to be happy and not have this continue to hurt you.

hcoe there are quite a few implied value judgements in that’d seemingly kind post I don’t know if you realise.

The hurt men impart is unintentional because they are human.

Women reacting to that hurt are bitter and unforgiving rather than being human themselves and experiencing normal human reactions to being wronged.

Bitterness is a common trait ascribed to women in my family. Women who react to men in a way that does not fully endorse them whether they are right or wrong. To me even the word has become a calling card for misogyny based on how frequently I see it ascribed to women who don’t quietly accept themselves and the children being wronged.

Forgiveness is a journey not a switch.

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idontknowaboutmortgages · 09/12/2020 10:37

@TheFormidableMrsC I'm so glad to hear you have found happiness. What they did to you and your family was awful. ThanksThanks

Notashandyta · 09/12/2020 10:54

This thread has been totally hijacked by a few buttholes who have missed the whole point.

I'm betting at least one is a very bitter and pathetic man.

Twinpeaksdancingman · 09/12/2020 11:35

This thread has been totally hijacked by a few buttholes who have missed the whole point.

Grinbuttholes - made me smile

wimhoffbreather · 09/12/2020 11:36

What is the point of the posters saying “oooh you’re just bitter”, “I bet he’s actually happy you know, karma isn’t real”, “you must be obsessed with you ex if you’re on here posting about him” Confused

So weird! Let people enjoy their karmic revenge fantasies/realities Grin

HitthatroadJack · 09/12/2020 11:40

Such a shame the thread has been completely derailed by a few posters who could not understand a few posts and have run away with things that they thought people wrote instead of actually reading the words
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Plantlover101 · 09/12/2020 11:46

Bitterness is a common trait ascribed to women in my family. Women who react to men in a way that does not fully endorse them whether they are right or wrong. To me even the word has become a calling card for misogyny based on how frequently I see it ascribed to women who don’t quietly accept themselves and the children being wronged.

I totally agree. Women are socialised to pander to men from an early age, to be physically appealing whatever the cost, because that is what men value to the most - by and large - and to "understand" that "boys will be boys".

I will never forget a comment I read by a prominent UK magazine editor, who said: "Women always say, 'I wish I was thinner/ more beautiful... They never say 'I wish I was more intelligent'."

I used to live abroad and was called "bitter" by a male colleague once because I told a 24 year old woman at work - who said all her friends were married and engaged, and worried that she wasn't - that she was too young to settle down and should be having fun. I jokingly told her that at her age she should have "one on each arm and another three ringing her up". Disclaimer: I was not advocating cheating but casual, uncommitted dating Grin. -Because let's face it, blokes do this.-

Not saying either that all 24 year olds should avoid marriage / motherhood, if that's what they want, but that if they don't, as I didn't, they shouldn't feel pressured by peers/ society.

I was single (late 30s) then and could do what I liked, with whom I liked, with no one to answer to, which seemed to bother people. Said colleagues who disapproved of me were all married and some were having affairs with each other.

It is the same with male and female sexual behaviour. When I were a lass growing up in the working class North, girls didn't want to be branded "easy" or, my favourite term, "a slag". Grin Grin Grin Misogyny par excellence. I sincerely believe that's a form of control over women by men afraid of comparison.

The patriarchy is omnipresent.

FlibbertyGiblets · 09/12/2020 11:48

On the back of this thread I looked up my ex husband, he cheated spectacularly on me, we had no children but the lovely house had to be sold. Anyhoo. He lives in Trowbridge, which I find a just punishment.
Grin

Plantlover101 · 09/12/2020 11:57

Anyway, our great leader, (NOT, lol) Boris Johnson, has followed this exact path, leaving wife of a similar age and adult kids to father a baby with the lovely Carrie. What a shining example respectability, responsibility, authenticity and credibility he is. GrinGrinGrin

Plantlover101 · 09/12/2020 11:58

*of respectability, etc.

LimitIsUp · 09/12/2020 12:04

Oh God yes, the second wives posts on this thread are very annoying.

I have no skin in the game, still married to my first husband (and I am his first wife) - no immediate signs on the horizon that this will change. However, I can still appreciate the few minutes of pleasure one would derive from realising that a cheating ex husband regrets his decision and has mightily screwed up

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