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I need to end it with someone lovely :( How?When?! (waffly)!

147 replies

Outbutnotproud · 06/12/2020 00:43

I've been seeing her since the end of August (ish).

I like to take things slow and obviously covid hasn't helped.

In mid-Aug we'd had 3 dates and she literally begged me to go official, I relented but I didn't like it.

She is so kind, generous and personable. (My most recent ex was an awful person and this is so nice to have)!

She's gorgeous-couldn't be much more my 'type' physically if she tried.

I feel so guilty because she is just so lovely.

The issues are (and this is going to sound SO bad)!

I think we're too far apart intellect and culture wise.

Examples;

I mentioned I was reading something about FGM, she's never heard of it. I mentioned it again a few weeks later and she still claimed to have never heard of it.

'This is a bit melodramatic isn't it!' (while watching TV) didn't know what melodramatic meant.

Didn't know what articulate meant-tells me to stop using 'big words'.

Our financial situations are very different but I won't go into that. I would prefer someone on/close to my level though-is that bad?

She is great at a lot of things I am not and I like being with her. But I don't know-I'm interested in academic subjects and have two degrees-she left school without GCSEs at 15-it shouldn't matter and I am sure doesn't in some cases but in this one, I feel like it does :(

I want to be able to discuss things with her and not have to keep stopping to explain what things mean.

I want someone who's interested in me as a person, she can't be because, a lot about me, she'll never understand?

Her friends are a bit much for me too.

It just doesn't feel right. I don't feel I can fully engage with her as a person because of it.

There are other issues. She is very close to her large family. She lives 2 hours from me and I couldn't ask her to relocate at any point. I don't want to either, but I definitely don't want a long distance thing.

Sex. I've tried guiding her and tried telling her what I like/don't like.

I've listened to hers and I am sure I've pleased her as much as possible. She's hurt me nearly every time :( she just isn't getting it and she really cannot fully excite me, just not enough foreplay and not confident enough.

I am awful, aren't I. I don't want to hurt her, she's lovely.

She is SO happy with me, and I think she thinks all is great and she definitely doesn't see the above issues as a problem. She seems to think that we both like one another and are attracted to one another and that's all that's required.

Am I wrong?

How can I finish with her at Xmas sort of time-should I wait?

She has mentioned she felt suicidal after her last LTR ended too. How is best to do it? Phone? In person? I genuinely feel awful.

OP posts:
category12 · 06/12/2020 07:01

It would be ridiculous, and awkward, and such an unnecessary drama to travel and stay overnight just to break up!

Don't do it. You do not need to break up in person. She'd be all happy to see you, only to be crushed. It's a nonsense that it's better in person, especially if it involves travelling etc.

Facetime her or phone her.

yellowhighheels · 06/12/2020 07:05

A phone call is fine here, don't put it off or you will feel obliged to wait until after Christmas. She has a big support network nearby. I would suggest you don't offer to be friends or support her through the breakup, you don't seem to have much in common and you live really far apart so are unlikely to see each other around.

As long as you do this kindly, say you've enjoyed getting to know her, but the distance and lack of common ground are too much, her reaction isn't really your problem. To be honest, she hasn't behaved brilliantly- hurting you during sex and pushing you for a relationship status after 3 dates.

yellowhighheels · 06/12/2020 07:08

I missed the bit about breaking up after an overnight stay. Please do not do this. That would be very unkind indeed.

BessieSurtees · 06/12/2020 07:14

Set her free soon as possible, if you have an overnighter tell her when you get there not when you leave Hmm

The way I read this your perceived superiority will shatter her confidence eventually anyway. Find someone else, someone who knows what articulate means.

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 06/12/2020 07:46

You aren't compatible and that is not her fault, and it's not your fault either. So stop feeling guilty.

You've only been together for 3 months. It's not a long term relationship.

Do it kindly but quickly. Write it up first if that will help. Say you've enjoyed getting to know her but have realised this isn't the right relationship for you. Wish her well. Don't do the keep in touch as friends offer.

greenspacesoverthere · 06/12/2020 07:59

Oh my! You've been together for 3 months and all this agony!Confused

Please just phone her, tell her you no longer want to date her as it's not working for you , and move on with your life

Don't stay friends. If she struggles with endings , staying friends won't help her

Please stop over dramatising this. Many people wouldn't even be exclusive within 3 months. Hmm

ukgift2016 · 06/12/2020 08:05

I agree, do it NOW. Don't wait until nearer to Christmas, it's only been three months so I would just blame it on the distance, the compatibility and leave it there.

Don't make a big thing over it, like writing a long letter. Come on.

DeciduousPerennial · 06/12/2020 08:15

She lives 2 hours away and neither of you wants to relocate - that’s reason enough for a brief, to-the-point, but kind conversation right there. Don’t offer any promises of friendship or ongoing anything, make it a clean break and get it done as soon as you can. It’s not fair to her to prolong this through Christmas and new year believing she’s in a meaningful relationship when she isn’t, and it’s going to be miserable for you to boot.

Don’t stay over and then drop it on her before you leave. A 2 hour journey doesn’t have to mean an overnight stay.

Bunnymumy · 06/12/2020 08:20

She isnt lovely. She manipulated you into a relationship after 3 dates and she told you she was suicidal when her last relationship ended.

Tell her that you just dont feel you connect well enough with her and that you feel you rushed into things as you dint have enough in common. Wish her all the best. Do it in a public place so she cant make a scene.

NeonIcedcoffee · 06/12/2020 08:24

Yeah just call her. Most of these reasons are perfectly fine. I'm not sure how old you are? Just some of them make you sound a bit full of yourself.

I'm well educated too as is my husband. It is important we can talk about things on the same level and have similar interests so I really understand that. My sister's husband isn't ver bright and I know it's an issue for her.

But there was just something in the way you came across in your op which sounded like you thought you were better than her. Not just different.

I'd also say on the money thing, this will probably matter less if you really click. So think about that in future.

Plastichearts · 06/12/2020 08:25

Yes just ring her, today. Don’t drag it out. Be matter of fact about it and don’t offer to stay friends.

Hawtain86 · 06/12/2020 08:26

If it’s not right you can’t force it no matter how nice the person is. Id break up with her over the phone sooner rather than later. Blame it on the distance!

Poppingnostopping · 06/12/2020 08:41

I agree with everyone, if it means an overnight stay, that's just cruel, she'll think you are coming for a lovely weekend. I'd probably get it over and done with asap, let her know and let her family support her.

You don't have to have a list of reasons to finish with someone, and you don't need to share them with her- you dated a few times, you don't want to carry on, it's sad but it's life and she needs to be able to have a girlfriend who is just as into her as she is into them, that's not you and you both deserve someone more compatible.

MzHz · 06/12/2020 08:45

@Outbutnotproud

gnome do I? I don't feel that way at all. I think I may cite the distance-I want her to be happy and all the above is a problem to me but obviously not to her. She does feel terrible about always hurting me during sex, though. But continues to do the same things.
No you absolutely don’t come across as condescending

Gnome was being a dick.

There’s a lot of it about. there’s usually at least one dick on a thread sadly.

madcatladyforever · 06/12/2020 08:49

If you want to end it do it immediately. Dont fanny about Xmas or no Xmas. She might be lovely but she isn't for you. She needs to know as soon as possible.

LuckyNumberThirteen · 06/12/2020 08:57

Definitely not after staying the night. She will think you were just using her for one more shag!

Over the phone is fine in these circumstances.

Don't feel bad. You've tried a lot harder than most people would have.

MargotMoon · 06/12/2020 08:59

I agree, phone her today. You will feel like a weight has been lifted. All of your reasons are completely valid but the distance thing is a fair one to use when breaking up. If she pushes it I would say that hurting you during sex and then continuing to do the same thing(!) has put you off having a physical relationship with her. That's not on at all!!

Labobo · 06/12/2020 09:01

Just call her. Tell her that you think she is lovely but long term, you don't think the two of you are suited. That's what dating is for - getting to know someone better to see if they are right for you. You have and she isn't.

It would drive me mad to be with someone who had a tiny vocabulary and knowledge of the world and no interest in extending them. Very off putting.

bitheby · 06/12/2020 09:12

Being intellectually compatible is really important. It's a huge part of attraction. The straw that broke the relationship with my ex was when we visited the city I went to university in and she spent the whole time undermining me/ it; had no interest in talking about things I was passionate about; conversation was difficult and I knew that I could never truly be myself with her.

It's not condescending to recognise that people are different and that in the long run, some differences will just grind people down.

Groundhogdayzz · 06/12/2020 09:16

Actually think it shows you’re a decent guy as you’re considering her feelings. You don’t need an excuse, she might be the most perfect woman in the world but she isn’t right for you, and that’s fine. Just ring her, be honest (not about intellect just about it not feeling right), explain she hasn’t done anything wrong and is a lovely lady but you don’t want to string her along. She will be upset, but in the long run it’s kinder and best for both of you.

SandAndSea · 06/12/2020 09:29

OP, it's fine. It's not about formal education, you're just not a match. Do it soon though. Don't wait till Christmas and don't stay over. Could you meet for a walk?

LuckyNumberThirteen · 06/12/2020 09:30

I could be wrong, but I don't think OP is a guy.

Heyahun · 06/12/2020 09:59

Yeah phone call then Today!

Don’t go to stay overnight - gawd

Seriously 3 months - all you need to say is it’s not working for me sorry. !

Elfieishere · 06/12/2020 10:15

Do it over the phone today.

Don’t waste your time. You do not sound condescending at all.

Sakurami · 06/12/2020 10:20

She's nice and attractive but that doesn't mean that you have to be attracted to her.

I've always needed someone to be intelligent in order for me to be attracted to them.

You don't need an excuse. You have it a go and it's only been a few months. I wouldn't wait to tell her, just tell her.

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