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your thoughts of emails my husband makes to his friends about me

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forevermaple · 25/11/2020 22:36

I am hoping to get others' opinions of what my husband says about me in his emails to his friends, which I find hurtful. A disclaimer: I only know about these emails after he secretly babysat another woman's child (this woman is single) when I was out of town on business and that "friendship" with this other woman was also a secret to me. Immediately after returning I figured out that someone had been over when I was away and after confronting him he still kept quiet. Since he wasn't going to tell me what happened I checked his emails and found a whole bunch of negative emails about me. So, secret "friend" and babysitting for her while I was away aside for a bit (but I would love to hear comments on that), I just want to focus on these emails, which he thinks are not hurtful. Any opinions, even contrary to what you think I want to hear, are appreciated. I will give you my interpretation, but please be honest if you agree or not.

  1. I worked my butt off on an application for a $80K grant related to my work. Unfortunately, the grant agency turned me down. My husband emailed several of his friends behind my back and told them I didn't get it. His exact words were: "she got the letter and it was a big fat no." - I am hurt that he is broadcasting my unsuccessful applications to his friends (yes, I have pride). What is noteworthy is that he never emailed anyone when I was successful. Also, to describe it as a "big fat no" is to me making it sound like it was a strong rejection...as if the application was really junky. He cannot understand why I feel that way. What is your opinion of this generally and more specifically, what is your opinion of what a "big fat no" means?

  2. At one time we had carpet beetles in the house. They will eat anything organic (wool, fur, cotton, cereals, etc). They are very difficult to get rid of. I recognized that we had a problem and we had to work hard to get rid of them. That meant moving furniture away from the walls and vacuuming and spraying the baseboards where they are usually at. We had to inspect every piece of clothing and linens. And we had to act fast because they will multiple like crazy and get all over the house. I could see that he wasn't really believing that the situation was that bad. He hardly helped me. I found emails to his friends really, strongly griping and whining (to say it politely) about all the work we had to do and that he thought we were all fine and in the clear after a little vacuuming. His exact words in a couple of emails was (and italics are his): a) "so we've been vacuuming like crazy and it's beyond exhausting. I think we're fine now, but Sara is incessant about it. It sucks" and b) "...we literally have all the furniture pushed in the middle of the room so we can vacuum the baseboards every single night (cue: eye rolling). Personally, I feel Sara has gone OCD on this but she's my wife and I have to support her." What is noteworthy was that we really were infested with them and he discovered that himself when we found the mother-load of hundreds of them under the appliances and eventually we had to call in the professionals. Also, the email calling me incessant was two days before Valentines day where I got a card that said "thank you for being you. So amazing and incredible." (he forgot to mention "incessant", too). What is your opinion of how he is describing me as being OCD and incessant - especially incessant? It is clear he didn't understand the seriousness of the problem, but that aside the fact that he is complaining to his friends rather than trusting/respecting me and instead is calling me incessant is something I find very hurtful. He cannot accept the fact that incessant is an inherently negative word. Is it obvious to you that incessant is meant in a negative way as "she is being annoying/irritating."?

These are just a of couple emails. Some might think it is being oversensitive to spend too much time being hurt by these emails. But isn't it safe to say that these are unkind at best and would be hurtful to most people? And what makes it worse is that these are not just a couple of emails to just get over - these are among years of emails complaining about mostly little things (e.g., the fact that I put Christmas decorations up a few days before Dec1, that I like to tidy the house up before visitors, etc.). Taken together, all these emails are like death by a thousand paper cuts. I look forward to hearing your opinions. Thank you.

So specific questions again:
What is your opinion of this generally and more specifically, what is your opinion of what a "big fat no" means?
Is it obvious to you that incessant is meant in a negative way as "she is being annoying/irritating."?

OP posts:
MrsTerryPratchett · 26/11/2020 01:28

I have a friend who I say mean things about DH to. She has an utter twat for a H and I don't want to say "DH is sooooooo wonderful" so I paint him in a less than favourable light. He knows I love him.

I'm not shagging someone else though.

Onthedunes · 26/11/2020 01:41

@mathanxiety

So you believe the op is falling into his trap.
She is being disguarded.
He is talking to his flying monkeys and using a smear campaign.

I hope not.

CuppaZa · 26/11/2020 01:45

He has no respect for you.

jessstan1 · 26/11/2020 02:00

I don't understand why your husband is sharing private information which concerns you, with friends. That I definitely would not like.

katy1213 · 26/11/2020 02:11

His friends must find this correspondence riveting - does he send Christmas round-robins about your guttering problems too? "We were blessed in 2020 despite the pandemic because I finally tackled the grouting which had been a big fat problem in the bathroom...'

grassisjeweled · 26/11/2020 02:15

What kind of bloke emails his mates all this info? If someone emailed me all that about vacuuming bugs etc I'd be keeping a wide berth

Cygne · 26/11/2020 02:23

How do you know he didn't tell his friends when you made successful grant applications? Unless you have seen every email he has ever sent, including ones he has deleted, I don't see how you can say that - and even if you have, you still don't know that he hasn't told them orally.

I can't see that either "big fat no" or "incessant" are that terrible. If you were obsessing about the carpet beetles rather than just getting professionals in to sort them out from the outset, it doesn't seem surprising that he needed to vent a little frustration with his mates. Perhaps you actually were being a bit annoying? It happens to the best of us.

Chocaholic9 · 26/11/2020 02:36

I wouldn't be hurt by the wording of these emails, no. I would be a bit suspicious about him babysitting for that woman though.

Italiangreyhound · 26/11/2020 02:44

He doesn't sound very nice. I think the secret friend and secret babysitting is very worrying.

RantyAnty · 26/11/2020 02:52

What is the story with the secret babysitting?

I've grumped about my exH before to my DSis. I think we all have those days.
If he wasn't just having a grump, it sound like contempt towards you.

Aquamarine1029 · 26/11/2020 03:35

You're worried about some benign emails when your husband has been having an affair and bringing this woman into your home?

Ok then. Confused

ChikiTIKI · 26/11/2020 04:13

I'd call what he is doing, "showing his arse"... His friends must be tired of it. Makes him look like a dick. He should be careful if he wants friends to hang around long term.

babygrootandstarlord · 26/11/2020 05:26

How much do you know about the child? Is there any way it could be his child?

I don't see the emails as a big deal. The secret woman, however, is a different story.

Monty27 · 26/11/2020 05:32

Hrth because it made me feel I'll.
OP why do you even stay there with him and his bugs? Eeww

HmmSureJan · 26/11/2020 05:49

I'm really surprised at these responses to you OP. He doesn't seem to like you very much does he? "A big fat no" sounds like he's just a bit pleased you didn't get the grant after you'd worked so hard and the multiple emails over years with these faint criticisms, all add up to resenting you I think. He doesn't sound like he has your back at all. He sounds snide and a bit mean spirited towards you. I'd be hurt too. Plus he's a massive liar. You've got a problem here and it's not that you looked through his emails!

oakleaffy · 26/11/2020 05:57

@katy1213

His friends must find this correspondence riveting - does he send Christmas round-robins about your guttering problems too? "We were blessed in 2020 despite the pandemic because I finally tackled the grouting which had been a big fat problem in the bathroom...'
LOL'ed at this.

in all seriousness, I'd be much more worried about the secret friendship.

tartantroosers · 26/11/2020 06:04

Weird

cansu · 26/11/2020 06:28

He is entitled to have a moan about you to a friend and in truth only one of those was a moan. The other one was just passing on that you didn't get the contract. You shouldn't be reading his emails.

If he has friends that are closer than they should be then that is an issue you should talk about.

MaMaD1990 · 26/11/2020 06:35

I just wouldn't be happy about him moaning about me to friends at all. If he has a problem, he needs to talk to you about it not bitch to his friends. I'd be raging about this other woman friend of his too, seems really dodgy. I'm not sure if you've already done this or not, but have you talked to him? As in really sat down and had a conversation? Communication is the best way to sort this stuff out.

JacobReesMogadishu · 26/11/2020 06:40

I’m surprised he has any friends.....they must be bored shitless with the level is detail in his emails. Your dh sounds odd from that point of view.

I’d be pissed off about the secret woman, wtf is that about.

rottiemum88 · 26/11/2020 06:47

Even* in t*he best relationships partners can irritate each other at times. Which is why it is good to have friends to occasionally vent to in private.

This.

Aside from the emails though, if you know for certain that he was babysitting for another woman, that's not something I can imagine many men volunteering to do for a really close family friend to help them out, let alone a secret friend you know nothing about. If he isn't already having an actual affair with this woman, he certainly wants to be.

slipperywhensparticus · 26/11/2020 06:50

Doesn't he ever say anything positive about you at all?

Clockstop · 26/11/2020 06:54

Who emails friends? Confused
Has he not heard of WhatsApp? I'd LTB based on that alone.

frazzledasarock · 26/11/2020 07:02

I wouldn’t expect my DH to be so dismissive and derogatory about me to his friends. Certainly would be very hurt if he crowed to his friends over my failures.

But then my DH wouldn’t do that.

How do you feel about him, what do you want to do?

SummerWhisper · 26/11/2020 07:08

I'm afraid I agree with @mathanxiety - I don't think there is a child, just a woman, but babysitting is a great cover story and puts him in a good light. He is cheating and painting you out to be a loser, a nag, high maintenance etc, so if his affair is busted, his mates will understand why he was forced to go elsewhere for affection. He sounds like a big fat prick. LTB.

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