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Break up nightmare

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Exfactor48 · 08/11/2020 09:06

Hi

This is a long one so if you have time grab a tea or better still a glass of wine & strap in! Thank you in advance for even bothering to read.
So firstly I’m older than most here, 45, I do have children but they’re grown up now.
2 years ago I started a new relationship with a seemingly lovely guy. As a whole it’s been wonderful but I have to admit I’ve made most of the concessions. Prior to living together we would alternate nights but then 7/8 months in his lodger left & as he has an elderly dog he was no longer able to stay at mine. So it was always me going to him which was a huge compromise because my house was nicer, cleaner, dog free etc! I was always rushing from one house to another & at times I did resent it. However we’d decided to move in together at Easter & as mine was rented I gave it up. We actually ended up bringing the move forward so we could lockdown together.
Our plan was to put his house on the market & buy a place together.
The transition was tough.
Lockdown- me working from home all the time, I’m struggling

Lockdown for him - still commuting in a very stressful environment
I’m going through the menopause & have lost my confidence completely
Trying to live together with very different living styles
Both wanting to be king of the castle at times.
The dog is now incontinent & SH*ts in the house most days (he recently started urinating too)! 🤢
We had some tough conversations & at one point I considered moving out again. However we pushed through & I kept focusing on the future, new house, no dog!
Hand on heart we weren’t arguing all the time, we’ve had 3 arguments since March. We disagree on things at times but generally sort quickly. We were not shouty, confrontational types.
Our move has been put on hold because we can’t move with an incontinent dog. We want open plan & the logistics of confining the mess wouldn’t work. So 2 weeks ago he told me he had a plan. In the new place he wants an outhouse/Man cave and his plan was that the dog could sleep out there & be in there during the day this meaning no mess in the house! I didn’t agree this was a good plan, the dog hated being outside & so would just cry and my ex would not let him cry. I felt like we’d end up stuck with a lovely( expensive ) new house literally being ruined by his dog. The dog is nearly 13 & I feel it’s time to start thinking about letting him go.
So his response to me not agreeing was to say we won’t be moving till 2022 as he feels the dog has another 18 months! & I retaliated by saying that in 2021 I was moving with or without him ( I should not have said this but I was angry & fed up of our life being dictated by a dog)..
the following day I discussed with a friend & she said I should acknowledge he was trying to find a compromise and just go for it. So I messaged him at work and we chatted, I said I still had some concerns but if we could talk through those & agree some boundaries then I’d be open to the plan. He was really happy & we seemed to be back on track.

However unbeknown to me, in his anger, insecurity, whatever the previous night he’d messaged some former colleague via LinkedIn & started chatting to her 🤷‍♀️.. she’s 28! The next day he tells me he’s going for a drink after work the following week which I think is odd because A) he never goes out after work & B) he works in London which was in tier 2 at that point. I asked who with & he said ‘Dave’... claiming he was a former colleague that he’d not seen for years. Alarm bells rang but then he so affectionate & making short term- date night & long term- holiday in February plans with me I thought I was being paranoid. So I left it but at the weekend I asked him if he still intended to go & he said he was playing by ear but then did the classic liar action of over telling, he started going on about this David guy & that’s when I knew 100% he was lying. So, I’m not proud of this, I checked his phone. And my worst fears were confirmed. He was telling her she was very pretty, was looking forward to seeing her etc etc.
Are you still there? Do you need a comfort break?
I confronted him, firstly I tried to suggest it was just gut instinct that made me think he was lying. He denied it obvs, then he said ok it’s a women but she’s a friend but I thought you’d be weird about it, I’m not like that- I have coffee with male colleagues. So I had to admit to looking at his phone & then he broke down & admitting it but said it wasn’t cheating as they hadn’t had sex!
What happened next I’m unclear on as I think I was just so shocked. I tried to talk to him, he just kept trying to remove himself, finally he said he was going to go & walk the dog & I said well I won’t be here when you get back. I think he thought I was bluffing, I wasn’t. I packed a bag & left.
I knew he wouldn’t beg me to come back, it’s not his style. He’s told me this before. He had an awful childhood is is quite damaged & has developed coping methods which are frankly toxic. I was so angry that a few days later I got removal people to take all of my furniture in to storage. I sort of regret not taking a breather now.

Anyway, after all of this, after him telling me how sorry he is, how much he’s let me down etc etc he still went on the date! Because he said if we’re not together he may as well..
now the dust has settled, I know I wasn’t happy with our living situation & will never live in that house or with his dog again but I was open to maybe slowly recovering while living apart. This week we’ve been tentatively talking & had agreed to meet in a month. However I asked for complete honesty & he confessed he’d seen this girl a 2nd time & they’d had sex 😪. So that’s that. He says he has been unfaithful because we’re not together.
I don’t even know what I’m looking for here. Our time together had been more good than bad & I feel this incident is a reflection of the issues he has, but am I kidding myself? Should I just keep walking in opposite direction? I love him, I can’t help it but I also hate him for treating me so poor. I really do not deserve this. It feels like such a waste!
Thanks for taking the time to read xx

OP posts:
Namechangedforthisoct2 · 08/11/2020 09:14

I wouldn’t walk in the opposite direction, I’d run!

So basically, if you guys go through a rocky patch his first reaction is to reach out the most the first female he can and get a reassurance / revenge shag?? He’s done it once now, and shown you who he is. He will do it again and again if you let him, after all he’s not even sorry! He’s trying to justify it.

Purplewithred · 08/11/2020 09:15

So you moved in in a rush, it wasn’t great, he found himself someone else to date behind your back while you were still there. You left, hoping he would come crawling back but he didn’t.

Stay away, it’s over. It was fun while it was good but hey ho, life moves on. Be thankful there are no kids or entangled properties.

Aparttogether · 08/11/2020 09:19

I think he would have gone for it with her anyway, even if you hadn’t packed your bags.

MzHz · 08/11/2020 09:26

You’d be the biggest idiot in earth if you took this creep back!

He’s showing you just how contemptuous he is

He’s make your life an utter misery

Get yourself sorted out wrt HRT, and get rid of him, I’m betting a lot of your lack of confidence isn’t hormonal

whataday12 · 08/11/2020 09:28

Do not go back to him op ! In a way he did cheat on you and I reckon even if you two were still together he would of gone on as many dates as she would allow and still sleep with her . Like kind of punishing you for not going along with his plans or what he wants . Bugger that ! X

edwinbear · 08/11/2020 09:31

If you’re 45, how old is he to be shagging a 28 year old?! He sounds grim, I’d carry on walking too. He’s happy to live with a dog who shits all over the place and shags young women when the going gets tough? You can do better.

MacbookHo · 08/11/2020 09:33

Are you still there? Do you need a comfort break?

😂

It’s over now. Just imagine your future if you got back together: you’d have to let his dog crap and piss all over your house, otherwise he’d shag girls in their 20s. It’s hardly Casablanca.

New year, new start. He’s not The One.

longcoffeebreak · 08/11/2020 09:34

Oh no I feel for you so much. You know the answer though - you just don't like it!! Grin
And who would? You have to throw away all those future plans and togetherness and go back to it being just you.

But you know it will never work cos you can't trust him not to make himself feel better with someone else as soon as you have a problem. Which you will do cos that is life.

SandyY2K · 08/11/2020 09:36

I agree with all the responses...don't go back to him. I do however think his initial suggestion of buying a place in 2022 was a compromise, but for him contacting a colleague straight away, arranging a date and lying about it ...I could never trust him again.

category12 · 08/11/2020 09:40

So when the going gets tough, he shags someone else.

Fgs learn from the lesson. Thank your lucky stars ✨ you've discovered his massive character flaw before you bought a house together and keep walking.

OhioOhioOhio · 08/11/2020 09:41

He sounds so selfish.

Cantdoitallperfectly · 08/11/2020 09:42

Completely agree with above. You did the right thing, in a few months time you’ll be glad you took such decisive action and didn’t let it linger on.

Buggedandconfused · 08/11/2020 09:42

Trust is gone. I went back to a relationship where he’d messaged another woman for sex as soon as we hit a rough patch... it was horrendous and I was anxious and suspicious all the time. Nice men don’t run to another woman at the first hurdle, they try to sort things out! The dog situation sounds grim too. I would no way be muddling my finances with this guy. He’s not a safe bet.

AutumnSummersBuffysCousin · 08/11/2020 09:43

Yeh run away from him and his amazing coping strategy of shagging someone else when you guys have a disagreement. He wasn’t wrong in his compromise about the dog/house situation but you also weren’t wrong for being fed up with it and wanting something else. Just move on-block him, go totally cold turkey and forget about him.

FFS123 · 08/11/2020 09:43

I think you have been incredibly cruel about the dog. The bloke clearly doesn't want it crapping everywhere either but he cant kill it if he thinks it has some good life left. If he put the dog down because of your moaning he wouldnt be able to forgive himself later anyway. You are incredibly heartless. If your in a relationship it should have been a joint discussion about the dog and you should have been supporting him in an awful time for him and the dog. Deciding when to put to sleep is an awful decision.

The affairs a different thing but I would have left you long before he did because of your lack of compassion.

Anxiousannie32 · 08/11/2020 09:47

Oh op what a disappointment. I get why you're torn, you had made plans, you had a vision of where your future was heading and now it's all been blown apart.
But honestly a man whose first instinct is to message another woman as soon as you have a disagreement is never going to be right for you. You'll find yourself compromising way too much for fear of rocking the boat and 'pushing' him to behave like that again. He's shown his true colours. A man who truly loved you would try and work things out not immediately go see and shag someone else. His mind was clearly elsewhere even when you were together.
The dog thing I can see his point - you can't just put a dog down or get rid of it when it comes difficult to handle. But I can also appreciate your frustration about having to put up with the mess. If you've got no real attachment to the animal then it's not something you want to deal with.
Overall I'm sorry to say I think this relationship has run its course. He's done too much to come back from I'm afraid.

Bluntness100 · 08/11/2020 09:48

Gosh, honestly if you’d suggested killing my dog because it’s in continent I’d have ended it immediately.

I think he’s the one who should keep running op.

WithoutATtrace · 08/11/2020 09:58

Wow if I was him I would choose the dog over you any day, poor dog.

FortunesFavour · 08/11/2020 10:02

Agree with FFS123 - you’ve been really horrible about his dog. I don’t want to be mean but I think he’s right in thinking twice about being with you because your attitude is v unkind. Elderly dog was there before you, he clearly loves it, he has suggested compromises which you won’t consider... this is probably a factor pushing him away from you. It seems you won’t be happy until it dies/is pts. I’m not a dog owner, but if a new partner had an attitude like that to a much loved and ailing pet of mine it would put me right off tbh.

Sorry, don’t mean to be harsh. Overall it sounds like you’re not brilliantly suited. I think you should count your losses and find a better prospect. Good luck.

Heartofgoldmumof2 · 08/11/2020 10:03

He has really hurt you OP. I’m not sure you could trust him again for any future big disagreements or problems that need to be overcome. He may be damaged and at any sign of trouble he messages another girl and sets up a date. You do not want to live with that worry hanging over you.
Can you afford to buy a place on your own and make a fresh start?

WithoutATtrace · 08/11/2020 10:03

@whataday12

Do not go back to him op ! In a way he did cheat on you and I reckon even if you two were still together he would of gone on as many dates as she would allow and still sleep with her . Like kind of punishing you for not going along with his plans or what he wants . Bugger that ! X
He did not cheat, she walked out and left him, she is just pissed off because he moved on when he would not back down over his dog
RoseTintedAtuin · 08/11/2020 10:05

There is no hope there OP. He cheated when he arranged the meeting while you were together. He clearly knew and worked to make it lead to sex. I can guarantee this will happen again. He has shown you he doesn’t have any respect for you. You’re already out which is a great start now to detach.

Elieza · 08/11/2020 10:05

You were right to trust your gut. Your hearts getting in the way now

He can’t be trusted.

He’d have shagged her whether or not he was ‘on a break’ (quoting Ross from Friends).

The dog is his problem and it has to be his decision to put it to sleep. Not yours. Or he would bottle up resentment against you.

Your split is for the best.

RoseTintedAtuin · 08/11/2020 10:07

@WithoutATtrace he didn’t cheat? So it’s fine he’s arranging hook ups which lead to sex while they’re together and pretending he’s seeing some guy called Dave?

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