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Break up nightmare

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Exfactor48 · 08/11/2020 09:06

Hi

This is a long one so if you have time grab a tea or better still a glass of wine & strap in! Thank you in advance for even bothering to read.
So firstly I’m older than most here, 45, I do have children but they’re grown up now.
2 years ago I started a new relationship with a seemingly lovely guy. As a whole it’s been wonderful but I have to admit I’ve made most of the concessions. Prior to living together we would alternate nights but then 7/8 months in his lodger left & as he has an elderly dog he was no longer able to stay at mine. So it was always me going to him which was a huge compromise because my house was nicer, cleaner, dog free etc! I was always rushing from one house to another & at times I did resent it. However we’d decided to move in together at Easter & as mine was rented I gave it up. We actually ended up bringing the move forward so we could lockdown together.
Our plan was to put his house on the market & buy a place together.
The transition was tough.
Lockdown- me working from home all the time, I’m struggling

Lockdown for him - still commuting in a very stressful environment
I’m going through the menopause & have lost my confidence completely
Trying to live together with very different living styles
Both wanting to be king of the castle at times.
The dog is now incontinent & SH*ts in the house most days (he recently started urinating too)! 🤢
We had some tough conversations & at one point I considered moving out again. However we pushed through & I kept focusing on the future, new house, no dog!
Hand on heart we weren’t arguing all the time, we’ve had 3 arguments since March. We disagree on things at times but generally sort quickly. We were not shouty, confrontational types.
Our move has been put on hold because we can’t move with an incontinent dog. We want open plan & the logistics of confining the mess wouldn’t work. So 2 weeks ago he told me he had a plan. In the new place he wants an outhouse/Man cave and his plan was that the dog could sleep out there & be in there during the day this meaning no mess in the house! I didn’t agree this was a good plan, the dog hated being outside & so would just cry and my ex would not let him cry. I felt like we’d end up stuck with a lovely( expensive ) new house literally being ruined by his dog. The dog is nearly 13 & I feel it’s time to start thinking about letting him go.
So his response to me not agreeing was to say we won’t be moving till 2022 as he feels the dog has another 18 months! & I retaliated by saying that in 2021 I was moving with or without him ( I should not have said this but I was angry & fed up of our life being dictated by a dog)..
the following day I discussed with a friend & she said I should acknowledge he was trying to find a compromise and just go for it. So I messaged him at work and we chatted, I said I still had some concerns but if we could talk through those & agree some boundaries then I’d be open to the plan. He was really happy & we seemed to be back on track.

However unbeknown to me, in his anger, insecurity, whatever the previous night he’d messaged some former colleague via LinkedIn & started chatting to her 🤷‍♀️.. she’s 28! The next day he tells me he’s going for a drink after work the following week which I think is odd because A) he never goes out after work & B) he works in London which was in tier 2 at that point. I asked who with & he said ‘Dave’... claiming he was a former colleague that he’d not seen for years. Alarm bells rang but then he so affectionate & making short term- date night & long term- holiday in February plans with me I thought I was being paranoid. So I left it but at the weekend I asked him if he still intended to go & he said he was playing by ear but then did the classic liar action of over telling, he started going on about this David guy & that’s when I knew 100% he was lying. So, I’m not proud of this, I checked his phone. And my worst fears were confirmed. He was telling her she was very pretty, was looking forward to seeing her etc etc.
Are you still there? Do you need a comfort break?
I confronted him, firstly I tried to suggest it was just gut instinct that made me think he was lying. He denied it obvs, then he said ok it’s a women but she’s a friend but I thought you’d be weird about it, I’m not like that- I have coffee with male colleagues. So I had to admit to looking at his phone & then he broke down & admitting it but said it wasn’t cheating as they hadn’t had sex!
What happened next I’m unclear on as I think I was just so shocked. I tried to talk to him, he just kept trying to remove himself, finally he said he was going to go & walk the dog & I said well I won’t be here when you get back. I think he thought I was bluffing, I wasn’t. I packed a bag & left.
I knew he wouldn’t beg me to come back, it’s not his style. He’s told me this before. He had an awful childhood is is quite damaged & has developed coping methods which are frankly toxic. I was so angry that a few days later I got removal people to take all of my furniture in to storage. I sort of regret not taking a breather now.

Anyway, after all of this, after him telling me how sorry he is, how much he’s let me down etc etc he still went on the date! Because he said if we’re not together he may as well..
now the dust has settled, I know I wasn’t happy with our living situation & will never live in that house or with his dog again but I was open to maybe slowly recovering while living apart. This week we’ve been tentatively talking & had agreed to meet in a month. However I asked for complete honesty & he confessed he’d seen this girl a 2nd time & they’d had sex 😪. So that’s that. He says he has been unfaithful because we’re not together.
I don’t even know what I’m looking for here. Our time together had been more good than bad & I feel this incident is a reflection of the issues he has, but am I kidding myself? Should I just keep walking in opposite direction? I love him, I can’t help it but I also hate him for treating me so poor. I really do not deserve this. It feels like such a waste!
Thanks for taking the time to read xx

OP posts:
Heartofgoldmumof2 · 08/11/2020 11:58

Having thought about it perhaps incontinent pants for the dog may have been a better compromise than suggesting euthanasia?

ThinkWittyThoughts · 08/11/2020 11:58

Keep away from this man. Whether it's classed as cheating or not, he's shown that when the going gets tough, he will sniff around another woman. I also dislike that you feel you're the one making compromises to make it work.

As for your attitude to the dog - you're obviously not a dog person. That's totally fine. I can also see why he'd be reluctant to PTS but to be honest if it's incontinent, and his plan is to make the dog stay in a situation it will hate, maybe PTS is the kindest thing?

I personally believe that insisting an animal suffer for the owner's feelings (or vanity) is immoral. Not everyone agrees with me.

Exfactor48 · 08/11/2020 12:00

Sorry this seems to have got a little lost in translation. Of course I didn’t suggest he put his dog down! I said I didn’t want to move into a new house with an incontinent dog. To be clear the dog can barely walk, has worsening kidney failure & cushings. I’m not cruel. He’s out of the house from 7am -6pm I am the one taking care of this animal or at least I was!
Thanks for other messages. Yes I know you’re right, when I think with my head and not my heart I know it’s 100% done.

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madcatladyforever · 08/11/2020 12:03

It all looks quite simple to me, he is not the man for you, he is a massive cheating prick and not interested in a future with you.
Do not waste any more time on this man.
The menopause is exhausting anyway, you need time alone to get through it without self combusting.

Aquamarine1029 · 08/11/2020 12:04

I couldn't be with a man who is allowing his elderly, clearly very unwell dog to continue to suffer. That poor dog is living in misery.

Good riddance.

Fuckityfucksake · 08/11/2020 12:04

While initially shocked you actually asked him to euthanize his poor dog. I do understand why. Surely it's not fair nor any kind of quality in the dogs life to let it continue with total incontinence, poor thing.
That said, for him, it will have been difficult to think about.
As for him sneaking behind your back then actually sleeping with said person not long after you let, tells you all you need to know.
Don't look back nor go back.
He isn't trustworthy.
Stop looking at it as a waste. It's a life lesson, a reminder of a mistake not to be made again.

greenspacesoverthere · 08/11/2020 12:07

The poor dog needs to be released from his misery

And you need to be released from yours

Move on - this isn't the man for you

L4uz · 08/11/2020 12:08

@Bluntness100

Gosh, honestly if you’d suggested killing my dog because it’s in continent I’d have ended it immediately.

I think he’s the one who should keep running op.

@Bluntness100 I completely agree with this. The dog was there first and if anyone told me to choose between them or my dog I'd send them packing quicker than they could click their fingers!
Exfactor48 · 08/11/2020 12:08

@Fuckityfucksake

While initially shocked you actually asked him to euthanize his poor dog. I do understand why. Surely it's not fair nor any kind of quality in the dogs life to let it continue with total incontinence, poor thing. That said, for him, it will have been difficult to think about. As for him sneaking behind your back then actually sleeping with said person not long after you let, tells you all you need to know. Don't look back nor go back. He isn't trustworthy. Stop looking at it as a waste. It's a life lesson, a reminder of a mistake not to be made again.
I didn’t ask him to euthanise his dog! I said with or without him I was moving in 2021 & so yes I guess you can interpret it that way but the dog does not have another year of life unless he plans to let him waste away.
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LilyLongJohn · 08/11/2020 12:10

U think youre incompatible op, you're struggling to resolve the living situation, and at this stage you should be in the honeymoon period. You can't resolve the dog issue and when stuff gets really difficult he reaches out to another female to massage his ego. I'd run

Exfactor48 · 08/11/2020 12:13

Except I didn’t do that. Perhaps I haven’t worded it well or perhaps you’ve just chosen to read it like this.
The dog is unwell & wasting away. He is letting him carry on because he cannot bear to let him go. I did not suggest he have him put to sleep so we could move, I was willing to wait until some point next year to move. The dog will not live through next year but my ex cannot accept this. In his head he’s got years left despite kidney failure.

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MashedSweetSpud · 08/11/2020 12:16

His new girlfriend can babysit the dog he pushes off onto other people.

Let’s be clear, he had no intention of buying a place with you. You were planning/pushing and he was stalling and cheated because he had no respect for you and obviously didn’t love you or he wouldn’t have done anything to hurt you or risk losing you.

If you decide to get into another relationship with someone with a pet, realise that pet is part of the family. If you don’t like animals get with someone who is like minded.

Anxiousannie32 · 08/11/2020 12:20

OP please ignore the unhelpful comments about the dog. People are selectively reading your posts and making up a story to suit their narrative. You clearly didn't ask him to put the dog to sleep and it sounds as if you were the one doing most of the care for it. As well as being a cheat and a sleeze he is clearly an irresponsible dog owner too.

You are so much better out of this shit shower and in time you will see that.

Bluntness100 · 08/11/2020 12:20

The dog is nearly 13 & I feel it’s time to start thinking about letting him go. So his response to me not agreeing was to say we won’t be moving till 2022 as he feels the dog has another 18 months! & I retaliated by saying that in 2021 I was moving with or without him ( I should not have said this but I was angry & fed up of our life being dictated by a dog)

I didn’t ask him to euthanise his dog

Ehrm which is it op? Really when you’re going to deny something it’s best to read your original post and see if you actually admitted it first off.

goldenharvest · 08/11/2020 12:22

Honestly, you don't sound suited anyway, so cut your losses.

Exfactor48 · 08/11/2020 12:22

@Bluntness100

The dog is nearly 13 & I feel it’s time to start thinking about letting him go. So his response to me not agreeing was to say we won’t be moving till 2022 as he feels the dog has another 18 months! & I retaliated by saying that in 2021 I was moving with or without him ( I should not have said this but I was angry & fed up of our life being dictated by a dog)

I didn’t ask him to euthanise his dog

Ehrm which is it op? Really when you’re going to deny something it’s best to read your original post and see if you actually admitted it first off.

Time to start to think about. Not pop down the the vets next week and do it! 2021 has 12 months and I was willing to wait it out.
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AbiBrown · 08/11/2020 12:23

Ha @pog100 😅👍
I am surprised at people saying an old incontinent dog should have priority! I mean, if that's how that man feels, then let me him grow old with only his dog for company. Good riddance!

Exfactor48 · 08/11/2020 12:24

@MashedSweetSpud

His new girlfriend can babysit the dog he pushes off onto other people.

Let’s be clear, he had no intention of buying a place with you. You were planning/pushing and he was stalling and cheated because he had no respect for you and obviously didn’t love you or he wouldn’t have done anything to hurt you or risk losing you.

If you decide to get into another relationship with someone with a pet, realise that pet is part of the family. If you don’t like animals get with someone who is like minded.

It was actually him pushing/planning. I wanted to wait until post dog but not until 2022. I think your other comments are cruel and also untrue. Completely unnecessary.
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MashedSweetSpud · 08/11/2020 12:30

I’m not trying to be cruel but I think it’s better for you to be able to move on if you accept what he did.

Are you giving it another go with this cheat?

Angrymum22 · 08/11/2020 12:31

It’s seems to be all about the dog and the house, not the relationship and your feelings for this man.

Bluntness100 · 08/11/2020 12:31

I also think it’s time for you to move on op he has.

GrumpiestCat · 08/11/2020 12:32

It sounds like hard work for both of you and 2 years in it really shouldn't be that much aggro. Sounds like he had enough of the stress and checked out of the relationship and you're resentful about various things such as having to come round him, wait for your new house, dog etc so yep that's the end of that. He was wrong to lie of course but let this one go and find something more harmonious. And you're not remotely old for mumsnet I expect majority of posters are 40s actually.

Exfactor48 · 08/11/2020 12:39

@Angrymum22

It’s seems to be all about the dog and the house, not the relationship and your feelings for this man.
I love him, or at least I did. We actually had a great relationship (I know it doesn’t sound like it)! That’s why this is so wasteful because it’s such a temporary issue. I know it’s a big deal when you’ve had an animal from the beginning, I know how much he loves him & how it’s breaking his heart to see him declining but honestly the time is getting close and that’s not me being callous- his mum ‘a dog person’ has said the same. The reason this post is about the house/dog is because that’s why we argued.
OP posts:
namechangenumber204 · 08/11/2020 12:45

'when someone shows you who they are, believe them'

Bluntness100 · 08/11/2020 12:47

Op, Now it’s all about you doing your best for the dog? Because you care? Now there is back tracking and there is back tracking

Look he’s moved on, he’s met someone else. He’s clearly got options, ans I’m sure options with women who don’t wish him to kill his dog.

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