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Break up nightmare

130 replies

Exfactor48 · 08/11/2020 09:06

Hi

This is a long one so if you have time grab a tea or better still a glass of wine & strap in! Thank you in advance for even bothering to read.
So firstly I’m older than most here, 45, I do have children but they’re grown up now.
2 years ago I started a new relationship with a seemingly lovely guy. As a whole it’s been wonderful but I have to admit I’ve made most of the concessions. Prior to living together we would alternate nights but then 7/8 months in his lodger left & as he has an elderly dog he was no longer able to stay at mine. So it was always me going to him which was a huge compromise because my house was nicer, cleaner, dog free etc! I was always rushing from one house to another & at times I did resent it. However we’d decided to move in together at Easter & as mine was rented I gave it up. We actually ended up bringing the move forward so we could lockdown together.
Our plan was to put his house on the market & buy a place together.
The transition was tough.
Lockdown- me working from home all the time, I’m struggling

Lockdown for him - still commuting in a very stressful environment
I’m going through the menopause & have lost my confidence completely
Trying to live together with very different living styles
Both wanting to be king of the castle at times.
The dog is now incontinent & SH*ts in the house most days (he recently started urinating too)! 🤢
We had some tough conversations & at one point I considered moving out again. However we pushed through & I kept focusing on the future, new house, no dog!
Hand on heart we weren’t arguing all the time, we’ve had 3 arguments since March. We disagree on things at times but generally sort quickly. We were not shouty, confrontational types.
Our move has been put on hold because we can’t move with an incontinent dog. We want open plan & the logistics of confining the mess wouldn’t work. So 2 weeks ago he told me he had a plan. In the new place he wants an outhouse/Man cave and his plan was that the dog could sleep out there & be in there during the day this meaning no mess in the house! I didn’t agree this was a good plan, the dog hated being outside & so would just cry and my ex would not let him cry. I felt like we’d end up stuck with a lovely( expensive ) new house literally being ruined by his dog. The dog is nearly 13 & I feel it’s time to start thinking about letting him go.
So his response to me not agreeing was to say we won’t be moving till 2022 as he feels the dog has another 18 months! & I retaliated by saying that in 2021 I was moving with or without him ( I should not have said this but I was angry & fed up of our life being dictated by a dog)..
the following day I discussed with a friend & she said I should acknowledge he was trying to find a compromise and just go for it. So I messaged him at work and we chatted, I said I still had some concerns but if we could talk through those & agree some boundaries then I’d be open to the plan. He was really happy & we seemed to be back on track.

However unbeknown to me, in his anger, insecurity, whatever the previous night he’d messaged some former colleague via LinkedIn & started chatting to her 🤷‍♀️.. she’s 28! The next day he tells me he’s going for a drink after work the following week which I think is odd because A) he never goes out after work & B) he works in London which was in tier 2 at that point. I asked who with & he said ‘Dave’... claiming he was a former colleague that he’d not seen for years. Alarm bells rang but then he so affectionate & making short term- date night & long term- holiday in February plans with me I thought I was being paranoid. So I left it but at the weekend I asked him if he still intended to go & he said he was playing by ear but then did the classic liar action of over telling, he started going on about this David guy & that’s when I knew 100% he was lying. So, I’m not proud of this, I checked his phone. And my worst fears were confirmed. He was telling her she was very pretty, was looking forward to seeing her etc etc.
Are you still there? Do you need a comfort break?
I confronted him, firstly I tried to suggest it was just gut instinct that made me think he was lying. He denied it obvs, then he said ok it’s a women but she’s a friend but I thought you’d be weird about it, I’m not like that- I have coffee with male colleagues. So I had to admit to looking at his phone & then he broke down & admitting it but said it wasn’t cheating as they hadn’t had sex!
What happened next I’m unclear on as I think I was just so shocked. I tried to talk to him, he just kept trying to remove himself, finally he said he was going to go & walk the dog & I said well I won’t be here when you get back. I think he thought I was bluffing, I wasn’t. I packed a bag & left.
I knew he wouldn’t beg me to come back, it’s not his style. He’s told me this before. He had an awful childhood is is quite damaged & has developed coping methods which are frankly toxic. I was so angry that a few days later I got removal people to take all of my furniture in to storage. I sort of regret not taking a breather now.

Anyway, after all of this, after him telling me how sorry he is, how much he’s let me down etc etc he still went on the date! Because he said if we’re not together he may as well..
now the dust has settled, I know I wasn’t happy with our living situation & will never live in that house or with his dog again but I was open to maybe slowly recovering while living apart. This week we’ve been tentatively talking & had agreed to meet in a month. However I asked for complete honesty & he confessed he’d seen this girl a 2nd time & they’d had sex 😪. So that’s that. He says he has been unfaithful because we’re not together.
I don’t even know what I’m looking for here. Our time together had been more good than bad & I feel this incident is a reflection of the issues he has, but am I kidding myself? Should I just keep walking in opposite direction? I love him, I can’t help it but I also hate him for treating me so poor. I really do not deserve this. It feels like such a waste!
Thanks for taking the time to read xx

OP posts:
Starsky88 · 08/11/2020 10:14

Did you really expect him to put his dog down for you because you couldn’t deal with it’s mess?!?!? The poor guy should have seen the red flags and walked earlier. I wouldn’t call what her did cheating, as you were not together and her being in her 20’s is neither here nor there ... sounds like a a toxic relationship.

Hailtomyteeth · 08/11/2020 10:18

I didn't finish the opening post.
You're clinging to a man who doesn't respect you, who cheated on you and who has an unpleasant old dog, for what purpose?
Disentangle yourself from him immediately.
Every time you think a positive thought about him, picture a pile of dogshit in the house. You'll be over him in no time.

footprintsintheslow · 08/11/2020 10:18

He's a cheat and you are in shock.

The rest is irrelevant really. You need to be kind to yourself, cut all contact and start building a new life away from him entirely.

Ps. I don't think you are older than most here.

notapizzaeater · 08/11/2020 10:25

He cheated, regardless of the circumstances. That's the deal breaker.

Though if someone told me to put my dog down I'd have walked away at that point.

Lobsterquadrille2 · 08/11/2020 10:33

Definitely don't give him a backward glance for his cheating. However, my cat is 15 and has a lot of life left - I would very swiftly dispense with anyone who suggested having her put to sleep.

WishICouldThinkOfAGoodName · 08/11/2020 10:35

I’m sorry you’re going through this OP, the situation seems horrid, but honestly you know this isn’t right. When the going gets tough good guys communicate. Get rid of the loser and the bonus is you lose the incontinent dog too.

AnyFucker · 08/11/2020 10:40

Shagging another woman is certainly some "toxic" coping mechanism

And that dog does need putting to sleep. It's an unkindness to cling onto it.

Guineapigbridge · 08/11/2020 10:46

He fell out of love with you when you suggested he put his dog down. He loves that dog like a father loves a child. He was never going to choose it over you.

Anxiousannie32 · 08/11/2020 10:50

Some very silly comments regarding the dog here. I'm a dog owner but don't expect anyone else to love my dog the same way I do, I certainly wouldn't expect it if the dog was shitting all over their house.

Op has possibly been a little insensitive and maybe misjudged just how much the dp loves the dogs. But I don't think she is unreasonable at all to be pissed off at the prospect of an incontinent dog destroying her home.

FortunesFavour · 08/11/2020 10:52

It’s ok to be pissed off at the prospect of an incontinent dog, quite another to give it’s owner an ultimatum to get rid or get it pts. I’d have finished it right there in his position.

devildeepbluesea · 08/11/2020 10:58

Your going on about the dog has killed any sympathy I may have had for you over his cheating.

Don't you understand what it's like to manage with an old dog? It's the deal you make when you get a puppy. You promise to look after it until the time to say goodbye comes and this means dealing with everything that comes with old age. You don't just make the one way trip to the vets because of some random new partner.

So yeah, I'd have fucked you off months ago.

namechangeforfriday · 08/11/2020 11:03

Agree with PP - your attitude to the dog was horrible. He was also an arsehole for seeing the other woman but you don’t cover yourself with glory here either.

ExclamationPerfume · 08/11/2020 11:07

You sound horrible. He obviously loves his dog and you suggesting he hid rid of it is what's caused this. He is do much better off without you. You can tell everything about someone how they treat animals.

ineedsun · 08/11/2020 11:12

Just move on, neither of you sound great.

Did you actually suggest putting the dog down so that you could move in together?

fabulous40s · 08/11/2020 11:13

Gotta love the dog comments on here - only on mumsnet should you sacrifice yourself to an incontinent dog

Dontletitbeyou · 08/11/2020 11:14

You were cruel regarding his dog . It’s old it’s sick but unless it’s suffering and the vet recommends it’s ‘time to let it go ‘ it’s not your call to make . You seem to be cold and more worried about the mess it would make in your potentially lovely ( and expensive) new home . If someone made me choose between them and my dog I’d happily fuck them off too .
He wasn’t bothered about you either , happily met ‘Dave ‘ and shagged on the second date . The bed wasn’t even cold before he was on top of someone else .

ineedsun · 08/11/2020 11:15

@fabulous40s

Gotta love the dog comments on here - only on mumsnet should you sacrifice yourself to an incontinent dog
It's really not just on mumsnet that it's not ok to kill an animal so you can move in together
Aparttogether · 08/11/2020 11:15

I don’t think the dog has got long left sadly. But that’s not the point. He didn’t think twice about meeting up with this woman and it sounded like he was on a promise. Even if you hadn’t left, he would have had sex with her. At least you know now.

Sunnydaysstillhere · 08/11/2020 11:21

Surely an incontinent ddog isn't happy? . ..Has it even seen a vet? Could he have been using it as an excuse not to commit to you? He ran fast to another woman for supposedly loving you...
No loss to you op. He sounds a twat.

sofato5miles · 08/11/2020 11:23

OP, i am with you. An incontinent pet would be unbearable to me. And i have a bloody menagerie. I am also a similar age.

This man is really not for you. And you will recover. After 2 awful breakups in recent years ( xanax, therapy etc). I now am so happy i am not with either.

Start living your new life quickly. The pain does pass, it really does. Just takes time

Whatisthisfuckery · 08/11/2020 11:26

I think the dog is a red herring here. Not because it wasn’t the cause of you disagreeing, but because his reaction to the disagreement was to immediately screw another woman. It wouldn’t have mattered if it was the dog you’d argued about or something else, his solution to conflict is to go and seek validation sex elsewhere. For this reason I think you’re better off rid. You couldn’t go back now anyway knowing his reaction to conflict is to find another woman to stick his dick in.

toomanyplants · 08/11/2020 11:35

I'm so sorry for your situation, I couldn't have handled an elderly incontinent dog either.
While I don't agree that having it PTS is the only option, it's clearly not something you should have to deal with, dog piss and shit daily.
The cheating was planned, covered up, denied and then admitted to.
He's done you a favour by moving on with this old colleague so fast.
Showed his true colours, and obviously wasn't too bothered by your absence.
Dust yourself off and move on, to a shit-free life.

pog100 · 08/11/2020 11:45

Threads which mention dogs only ever go one way on MN. Love of dogs trumps all other considerations OP, you should know that.

Bluntness100 · 08/11/2020 11:50

He didn’t cheat. The relationship is and was over, he was clearly making plans to exit when he started contacting this other woman

But to suggest he kills his dog because it was inconvenient to the op is abhorrent. And quite frankly the worst of two evils. She’d have had that dog killed in a heat beat if he’d allowed it.

dingdongdoo · 08/11/2020 11:54

He did cheat.

And the dog needs to go.

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