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17 years and my husband has walked out

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WTFis2020 · 21/10/2020 05:39

Hi all,
I need advice and will try and keep this short.
I’ve been with my husband for 17 years, married for 3, with 2 kids. We have the perfect world, no arguments, a beautiful house and holidays. We are the typical perfect family.
I’ve had a difficult year this year with my mum being critically ill, my usually loving husband has been a bit ‘off’ and my gut has told me there’s someone else. He’s constantly on his phone, the occasional night out he’s had hasn’t made sense etc.
So I flipped the other day and accused him of all sorts, he denied then went silent for 2 days. Upon trying to talk to him on day 3 he’s now claiming we apparently want different things and he should leave! He has told the kids in a 2 minute conversation and we are all shocked to the core.
I feel like he has been taken over by an alien or has a brain parasite 🙈.
Please help me to make sense of this all

OP posts:
ThumbWitchesAbroad · 29/10/2020 09:49

His disregard for your and your DC's feelings over what he has done is actually quite staggering.

As though all he had to do was "change his mind" and everything could go back to normal.

He's mad.

I guess he's pushed ahead with the Spanish apartment to "show" that he's back on board with the marriage Hmm - unless it was done before he dropped his bombshell.

As I said before, his arrogance is breathtaking.

I wouldn't actually let him know too much about how you're feeling or what you're doing just now - I'd just say that this is hardly the time to be thinking about large expenditures "as a family" when he so recently said that he no longer wanted to be part of yours.

nomdeplume2019 · 29/10/2020 10:02

@willowmelangell

If there is an OW, IF, I would be wondering how they met and where. Can you think of any conversations this year where he mentioned someone new at work or his hobby? Perhaps he stopped talking about her. Did he have nights out with the lads, start dressing or grooming differently? Has he talked about how the world is different now, nobody knows what is around the corner etc etc perhaps he in some sort of crisis mode? Panicky or frightened that life is not going as planned.
Don't do this to yourself! What matters is your children learning to live and cope with this massive change and your financial affairs. Anger is apart of grieving for a life which has suddenly dramatically changed.. you will move through the emotions and motions. Does it matter how he or anyone tries to perceive you really? Mum adds structure, routine and the foundations a child needs and they appreciate you.
billy1966 · 29/10/2020 12:18

@MarriedtoDaveGrohl

Agree completely.

Keep how ahead of him you are, quiet.

Transfer your half of funds into another account.

Losing your keys would be a great idea and get a new set.

Flowers
Mix56 · 29/10/2020 12:30

Apart from anything else, buying an aptmt in Spain at the moment is an idiotic idea IMHO. Will he even be able to get there?
Plus he'll need a visa !

NettleTea · 29/10/2020 12:32

and remember that half of HIS savings are also have of YOUR savings too. All assets. Including the stuff he has secreted away

UseOfWeapons · 29/10/2020 12:48

@WizardOfAus

There’s also this checklist from the website.

Hallmarks of Wife Abandonment Syndrome

  1. Prior to the separation, the husband had seemed to be an attentive, emotionally engaged spouse, looked upon by his wife as honest and trustworthy.

2.The husband had never said that he was unhappy in the marriage or thinking of leaving, and the wife believed herself to be in a secure relationship.

3.The husband typically blurts out the news that the marriage is over "out-of-the-blue" in the middle of a mundane domestic conversation.

4.Reasons given for his decision are nonsensical, exaggerated, trivial or fraudulent.

5.By the time the husband reveals his intentions to his wife, the end of the marriage is already a fait accompli and he often moves out quickly.

6.The husband’s behavior changes radically, so much so that it seems to his wife that he has become a cruel and vindictive stranger.

7.The husband shows no remorse; rather, he blames his wife and may describe himself as the victim.

8.In almost all cases, the husband had been having an affair.

9.The husband makes no attempt to help his wife, either financially or emotionally, as if all positive regard for her has been completely extinguished.

  1. Systematically devaluing the marriage, the husband denies what he had previously described as positive aspects of the couple's joint history.
Exactly what happened to me in my first marriage. My ex told me 2 days before we were due to leave on holiday with friends, late in the evening. He said he didn’t love, he wasn’t sure he ever had, he wanted a divorce, to sell the house...after 13 years of marriage, and 20 years of knowing each other.

He’d been so sweet the previous couple of weeks, as I told him I had a feeling something, somewhere was dreadfully wrong, but couldn’t put my finger on it. He’d been promising me the world.

2 days later, he marched me to the bank,and I got a new account. No money in I it. He moved in with the OW after I found them a flat. I just wanted him gone.

The holiday, well, he gave that to people in his office. After he moved out, I asked him to phone me if he wanted to come round. I couldn’t have him marching into my safe space again. I used to put cornflakes under the door mats, so I’d know if he’d been in!

My counsellor after this told me that it was clear that my older and wiser self had been taking over. I’d put emotion aside during the first few days, after lots of howls, and photocopied every document in our filing cabinet. The stupid arse had his solicitor’s advice sent to our address, and I inadvertently (🤥) opened. I was absolutely devastated inside. When I did see him, rarely, he would show pics of his new woman on his phone.

I ended up with half of everything, and did the divorce myself, as it was fairly straightforward, no children.

He’s on wife number 4 now.😁

OP, you’re doing brilliantly. You are getting excellent advice here, and hope you’re getting plenty of support in RL too. Be gentle with yourself, and keep your mind on the prize...a new life for you and your children. I’m horrified that he has treated his kids like this, let alone his treatment of you. He is clearly deluded and callous, if he thinks this is the sort of behaviour anyone would, be able to forget about to continue a relationship.

A big hug to you, OP, I’m following your story with understanding, and sending you positive energy💓.

You go girl! Your children are lucky to have a mother like you to keep them safe and secure in such a time of turmoil.

MondayYogurt · 29/10/2020 13:45

Perhaps his OW is Spanish.

MzHz · 29/10/2020 15:26

How much has he got in savings @WTFis2020?

You are entitled to half of money within the marriage so make sure he’s not deliberately getting money out of your reach. Freeze everything you can

WTFis2020 · 29/10/2020 15:38

I have instructed the solicitor and informed her of the loan application. She will inform him he cannot apply for loans without authorisation from me during divorce proceedings. My solicitor sounds bad ass. He just keeps asking for his mail 🤣🤣🤣🤣

OP posts:
TeeBee · 29/10/2020 15:40

Wow, there really is something he wants to hide, eh?

TeeBee · 29/10/2020 15:43

There's been no mail though, has there? Apart from lots of circulars and bills 😉

WTFis2020 · 29/10/2020 15:47

@TeeBee exactly! 😉 x

OP posts:
Noshowlomo · 29/10/2020 15:50

But he knows about you opening the loan application doesn’t he?

IndieTara · 29/10/2020 16:16

Op you really sound on top
Of things. Good for you

Marmunia1975 · 29/10/2020 16:21

Good for you OP! On your side!

BlueThistles · 29/10/2020 16:29

Hats off to you OP, you are spinning plates better than anybody I ever saw. Flowers

LittleEsme · 29/10/2020 17:58

Are your friends able to shed light on any of this OP?

Chersfrozenface · 29/10/2020 18:03

@WTFis2020

I have instructed the solicitor and informed her of the loan application. She will inform him he cannot apply for loans without authorisation from me during divorce proceedings. My solicitor sounds bad ass. He just keeps asking for his mail 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If he wants his mail (I'm presuming postal / snail mail) he can let the senders know he's changed address.

Or set up a redirection with the Post Office - here is a handy link if it would help him www.postoffice.co.uk/mail/redirection

buckeejit · 30/10/2020 11:15

Hope you're having a better day today OP & have some kind things to do for yourself at the weekend

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 30/10/2020 11:32

Cracking work, @WTFis2020. I wonder what else he's applied for that will come to your home address? Oh dear oh dear!

Word of warning though, although I don't think you'll need it - when he realises you've instructed a solicitor and are pursuing a divorce, he's likely to become pretty unpleasant. OR he'll ramp up the attempt to get you to take him back, which, when it does't work, will morph into him being pretty unpleasant.

How are the DC now? Still angry?

S00LA · 30/10/2020 13:10

OP do you think he told the kids because he wanted then to pressurise you into doing the pick me Dance?

“ Mum you need to be nicer to dad so he stays with us “.

Or do you think a third party has discovered an affair and threatened to tell you unless he does so himself?

Is it possible that one of the children / their friends have discovered it so he's trying to get in first with his anodyne version of events ?

The way he told the children was very precipitous and I’m wondering its thats a clue to what’s going on.

WTFis2020 · 30/10/2020 13:38

Girls I just can’t stop crying 😭😭😭. When will this ever feel any better? 💔💔💔

OP posts:
userxx · 30/10/2020 13:42

Awwww bless you. It's such a shit time - have you got a friend you can get over ?

S00LA · 30/10/2020 13:56

@WTFis2020

Girls I just can’t stop crying 😭😭😭. When will this ever feel any better? 💔💔💔
Yes it will, but you will be up and down for a while.

Sorry i know its tough.

Isthisit22 · 30/10/2020 14:02

You are doing amazingly. You are bound to feel sad and devastated. Give yourself time to cry, then eventually there will be much better times to come 💐