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Leaving a 15 year relationship with a manipulator - money

147 replies

Cyclepath777 · 05/09/2020 12:19

Hi everyone,

I am 56, healthy, have a good job and loving adult children. I have my own home, car and should on paper be fine. However, I woke up recently, and realised that my life was just empty, and completely revolved around the needs of my quiet, undemanding partner. I had not desires, no ability to have fun, nothing to look forward to or interests outside work and home, 1 friend and no intimacy to speak of for 5 years.

I've been in a relationship with this man for 15 years. I have had enough experiences, spoken to enough friends and family, read enough stuff to now know that I have been, and continue to be manipulated.

Without a long drawn out series of explanations about what he has subtly done over the years, lets just say that no-one likes him and it is never his fault for anything. He compains and talks about his work, and yet is not really interested in mine. He relates stories of his life when things were brilliant, and yet cuts me off when I try to talk about my past. He is always 'suffering' somehow, is ill a lot with non-specific (and some clearly true) health issues that disrupt our life, but won't go to the doctor, and he cries at the drop of a hat. He is the master of chair sitting.

I finished the relationship last October. He has refused to leave, many excuses, 6 weeks of counselling resulted in the 'New man, I can change and give you this wonderful life' over and over again, no matter what I say, or how many times I said leave, please just leave!

So he oh so nicely and tearfully explains that because I am taking his whole life away from him, I should pay him from the house. (It is my house which I owned on a mortgage for 15 years before he moved in.) He lived off me for 3 years and then has paid 350-400 a month since then, including all food, and his mobile phone until recently.

So, very long story short, 11 months later he is still here. Due to his nature, he is very quiet and is being oh so nice without actually doing anything to move out.

He basically is asking me to compensate him for the 15 years together and won't move out until he has enough money. He has pushed me and I have offered him 15k, but the house needs repairs to a small extension he paid for over 10 years ago (which is what he says is his beneficial interest in the house) and it will wipe me out.

I am still losing his money each month anyway, so taking a loan as well is not really on just to make his life easier. So I want to back track to 10k. Even my mild mannered mum thinks I am giving him too much, and most of the few friends I havent' been isolated from say I don't owe him anything.

The guilt trips however have been horrendous, its like I have an obligation to him like one of my own kids (who can't stand him btw and are now grown up and left home). From what I understand, this emotional response is due to his manipulation over many years, and whilst I intellectually understand it, I am finding it very hard to fight it.

I don't have a solicitor, and he keeps trying to put me off by saying we can work this out and that he needs a decent home (and I should help him).

I would really appreciate people's thoughts on my situation.

OP posts:
Sssloou · 10/09/2020 09:53

Hope that today goes calmly.

Well done to you for calling on resources and seeing this through.

Cyclepath777 · 10/09/2020 19:07

Update:

Up at 7, we packed his stuff into boxes and bags and then tried to ring his parents for an hour...no reply.

I leave a message for the police so that they are aware.

The Locksmith comes and goes Smile

In desperation I decide to ring his brother, to see if he can take his stuff. I know he is usually back around 2ish.

I was not expecting what followed:

"Hi its me, I'm sorry but I am kicking him out and can't get hold of your parents to drop off his stuff."

"About bloody time, my wife is with you on this, should have gone months ago. He's always been lazy, never stood on his own feet or will take responsibility for anything. If he shot someone it would be someone elses fault. I told him he's not got a leg to stand on, he's been living off you for 20 years, he's a f$%"&g cock lodger!"

"His first wife left him cause he was caught red-handed shagging someone at a gig, I was there"

"What? I said...he always told me his wife left him for another man"

"Bullshit, it was him!"

I think that was the moment that the last bit of FOG (Fear, Obligation Guilt) finally dispersed.

About 10 minutes after that call, he returned home early. There is stuff in the car, bags and boxes everywhere...

There was then a short but testy doorstep moment, with me and the kids telling him to go away, and that he's been found out on his lies on one side, and him asking what he's done and begging to come in for a cup of tea on the other...at which point I just say "not a chance" and shut the door.

He then just stays, wandering around on the drive, going on his phone, and occassionally knocking on the door politely. He tried ringing me (blocked) and messaging me (blocked).

Long story short, cos it was actually quite boring, after 1.5 hours, I decided enough was enough, and rang him on my son's phone. I told him he had 5 minutes to drive away or I would call the police... and yet he still took it slightly past the wire...I think he finally left at 2.15

It took 4 trips to his parents to deliver all his stuff. His Dad was not impressed with me and the kids, and the ex seemed in shock and disbelief.

Meanwhile:

I just played battleships with my kids, and my daughter won. Smile

OP posts:
Cyclepath777 · 10/09/2020 19:11

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

I would like to say that without your support and really excellent advice, this whole thing would have been so much more difficult to do.

I am feeling so much more positive and am looking forward to a brighter future.

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OP posts:
HazelBite · 10/09/2020 19:22

Oh well done Flowers

Eddielzzard · 10/09/2020 19:33

OMG Well done!! So well handled. Brilliant! Flowers

oldstudentmum · 10/09/2020 19:36

Brilliant xx been reading your updates. Hope your kids stay for a few days !!! Have a celebration. He probably won't take it lying down try and find some way to keep contacting (different SIM card) . You seem so determined and strong well done ! You are an inspiration so long to the leech.

PersonaNonGarter · 10/09/2020 19:45

AH-MAZING OP! Flowers

notapizzaeater · 10/09/2020 19:47

Brilliantly played 🥳

CooperLooper · 10/09/2020 19:57

Well done!!

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 10/09/2020 20:10

Oh, I do love a happy ending!

You will be careful for a while though, won't you?

Noshowlomo · 10/09/2020 20:17

Brilliant!! Fantastic!

namechange5575 · 10/09/2020 20:19

Good job! Glad it went so well, glad you've got no lingering FOG.

billy1966 · 10/09/2020 20:21

Wonderful update OP.

How fantastic to have that waster gone.Flowers

RandomMess · 10/09/2020 20:28

Hurrah!!!

Love his brother and wife 😂

Sssloou · 10/09/2020 21:14

How spectacular - you only posted on Saturday and before the week is out your life has turned a fantastic new chapter.

It’s always amazing when we speak out - everyone already knows it - so delighted for you. Your DCs will be v proud of you and you will have given them a real sense feel relief and joy as well as a brilliant example of how to turn your life around - swiftly. Enjoy

pointythings · 10/09/2020 21:17

Superbly played! Power of Mumsnet and most of all the power of you!

echodot · 10/09/2020 22:00

Well done! Kicked him to touch. I bet his dad was mad at you! They don't want him either do they??

Pop a bottle of Champagne my girl!!! Chin chin xxx

Happynow001 · 11/09/2020 05:50

Hurrah!! So very WELL DONE @Cyclepath777!!

It's so great that you've taken the good advice you've been given, and acted so very promptly and decisively.

I bet he's kicking himself that he didn't leave your home far more quicker and with your cash in his account- the idiot! Well rid - and sounds like his own family have his number.

Enjoy the rest of your future without him. 🌹

Seaside1234 · 11/09/2020 06:31

Just read this whole thread - yay! Woohoo! Your kids sound awesome and so do you. Have a fabulous weekend!

justilou1 · 11/09/2020 06:46

Please make sure you have decent cameras set up now in case he thinks to break in, OP. I wouldn’t put it past the skeezy bastard.

billy1966 · 11/09/2020 07:42

@Sssloou

How spectacular - you only posted on Saturday and before the week is out your life has turned a fantastic new chapter.

It’s always amazing when we speak out - everyone already knows it - so delighted for you. Your DCs will be v proud of you and you will have given them a real sense feel relief and joy as well as a brilliant example of how to turn your life around - swiftly. Enjoy

So true.

A excuse like him would have become even more difficult as the years moved on.

I agree with a camera too.
A front door one at least.

His family clearly have his measure.

Enjoy your freedom.
Protect it.
Flowers

bibliomania · 11/09/2020 08:38

Well done, OP!

Weenurse · 11/09/2020 09:44

Well done

ArdoCycle · 11/09/2020 11:22

Seems legit.

Heffalooomia · 11/09/2020 11:36

Well done for prising yourself away from this enormous leach

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