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Last week I told DH I want a divorce

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 16/08/2020 19:25

Things have been very rocky for 8 months, going steadily downhill for 2 years. Not going to bore you with the details. We have 2 children.

He says no. A flat no, it’s not happening. He can’t do it. He’s been divorced before. He admits his behaviour over the last year hasn’t been good enough and he hasn’t been present or involved.

I’ve told him I love him but I’m no longer in love with him. He asked what love is anyway.

I can’t live in a sexless, affection less marriage for another 40 years. There have been ultimatums and serious discussions about separating before but he’s finally starting to pay it some attention.

He’s a good man and a good father. But he’s not listening. I think he thinks that if he keeps telling me it will all be ok that he’ll get his own way. I’ve agreed to counselling but we’ll be going into it with two very separate aims - his to make it work, mine to have an amicable divorce.

I’m absolutely sure of my decision. We’re good friends who have children. The spark is gone and we have very different views on what we want from life.

I don’t want it to get to the stage where we are arguing every day and lose all respect for each other. He thinks I’m being idealistic and we can sort it all out. But we can’t. I no longer desire him or want him as a partner. We’re basically room mates.

I know he was shocked, I know it takes time. But he can’t say no forever can he?

We both work, there’s no affair or anything.

How do I keep pushing this? Like so many things over the course of our marriage, I’m the one having to be the grown up and make the decision.

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RandomMess · 13/12/2020 17:29

Could with a gin 😂

Scan yesterday found a bleed so stroke confirmed.

I am a very lucky woman! Speech ok, funny arm and hopefully executive function ok enough to get back to driving eventually. Back on "normal" food today and allowed Zopiclone sleeping tablet 🤩

mbosnz · 13/12/2020 17:32

RandomMess, so glad you're okay(ish). You're an incredible person, generous with your wisdom and knowledge, and replete with both.

katmarie · 13/12/2020 17:49

@RandomMess, I hope you are being well looked after, how scary that must be for you Flowers

Op as much as I am dying to hear his latest batshit proposal, I hope you are able to have a relaxing evening not dealing with his shit!

Daftapath · 13/12/2020 18:24

Is it a ludicrous proposal? Does he mention the children at all?

At least it's a starting point, I suppose.

Daftapath · 13/12/2020 18:25

Random, have you not been able to swallow safely? Have you been assessed? (Speechy here!)

RandomMess · 13/12/2020 18:51

Sorry for all the hijack.

Swallow assessment in A&E as part of deciding whether to be given thrombylotic or not. Then soft food later that day (ready break), easy chew yesterday, normal today.

Who knew it could take a while to eat a pack of wotsits!! It's the moving them around my mouth that takes time... also have that sensation after swelling tiny tablet that it's stuck.

What is the gin of choice tonight Pollyanna???

Daftapath · 13/12/2020 18:56

@RandomMess glad they have assessed. Are they aware that you have the feeling of food being stuck? Have you tried liquids yet?
Was it a slt who assessed or doctor?

aeiouaeiouaeiou · 13/12/2020 19:11

OP I've just RTFT you sound very level headed and like a wonderful mum Who is putting her children first. I hope the house move goes well when it happens. You've mentioned Geller a lot, I presume that's not his real name.

mbosnz · 13/12/2020 19:15

Has anyone tried the London Club Gin? It's bloody gorgeous.

DPotter · 13/12/2020 19:32

mbosnz
Not quite sure what that has to do with OP's seeking a divorce........

RandomMess · 13/12/2020 19:37

@Daftapath yes liquids done in A&E my specialist stroke nurse. Have told nurses and it's written down for the review but told me to try and remember to tell the consultant team tomorrow so I can discuss it with them.

C0NNIE · 13/12/2020 19:42

@mbosnz

RandomMess, so glad you're okay(ish). You're an incredible person, generous with your wisdom and knowledge, and replete with both.
This. Get well soon.
mbosnz · 13/12/2020 19:47

@DPotter

mbosnz Not quite sure what that has to do with OP's seeking a divorce........
Sorry, just responding to RandomMess re gin. . .
StuckInPollyannaMode · 13/12/2020 20:01

I bloody love gin. Crack on with the gin talk!

I had a pink gin tonight, before dinner. Just Gordon’s. Now I’m on a glass of white having done bedtime. I MAY, if I feel like it, have a glass of port.

Watching a super programme on Iceland. They have underfloor heated pavements in Reykjavik, isn’t that brilliant?

How are you feeling RandomMess? Hope you can get some more sleep tonight.

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 13/12/2020 20:03

Fear not @aeiouaeiouaeiou not his real name, after Ross Gellar from Friends

Hanging in there tonight. He’s gone all melodramatic tonight, saying that he feels like he’s just lost the girls and I might as well move back to where I used to live and that he recognises DT1 is never going to stay over with him.

Which, to be fair, is because she called him out on being a shit to her over dinner and always accusing her of everything and blaming her first.

It’s been a stormy evening.

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mbosnz · 13/12/2020 20:17

LOL, DT1 sounds awesome.

He's a bit of a pillock, really, isn't he?

What has he done to warrant or earn the kids wanting to spend time with him?

It's not his due. You earn your kids love, their respect, their compassion, their (usually by that stage, somewhat condescending ) friendship.

StuckInPollyannaMode · 13/12/2020 20:25

He’s a LOT of a pillock @mbosnz

By the way is anyone else RIDICULOUSLY excited about Bridgerton? Love the books and can’t wait for the adaptation.

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RandomMess · 13/12/2020 20:32

Will look up bridgerton.

I actually really like Beefeater Seville and their pink for a big brand mainstream.

StuckInPollyannaMode · 13/12/2020 21:06

Oh.

My.

God.

DT1 came down and put a card under the Christmas tree for Santa. I’ve just opened it.

Dear Santa

I wish that Mum and Dad won’t get devorsed. Please help me!

Happy Christmas!

Love

DT1 and DT2 xx

What do I dooooooo?

I haven’t told him.

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 13/12/2020 21:08

The Bridgerton series is written by Julia Quinn - the books aren’t GREAT but super rainy day reads - and they’re doing the adaptation on Netflix starting Christmas Day.

Set in Regency times, rather raunchy tales about 8 siblings whose parents have named them A-H, lots of strong women and dominating Dukes.

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RandomMess · 13/12/2020 21:19

You stand firm knowing that post separation they will be happier. They are scared of all the certainty and want it back how it was before with you do everything to placate Gellar because that was their norm.

You reassure them that it is sad and scary now but all will be ok.

Thanks
C0NNIE · 13/12/2020 21:25

What do I dooooooo?

I haven’t told him

You sit down tomorrow and ask Ds what he wants for Christmas. If he doesn't raise it, ask him how he feels about you and his father splitting up.

Just let him talk about his feelings - they are not right or wrong, they just are. Don’t try to talk him out of how he feels or cheer him up.

Say you feel sad about it too but sometimes things don’t work out in marriages and people need to split up. If he asks why just say it’s for adult reasons and he will understand when he’s an adult too.

Be very clear with him what the future plans are - you WILL be separating but he will still see his dad. If he asks for details you need to be honest and say that his dad hasn’t decided yet but you hope he decides soon.

You must be honest with him in an age appropriate way. Lying to “ spare his feelings “ is not helpful or kind - it’s actually about adults avoiding dealing with children’s feelings.

StuckInPollyannaMode · 13/12/2020 21:47

Sorry @C0NNIE I meant I haven’t told Gellar about the note.

But I will talk to the girls tomorrow.

Friend of mine who is very balanced and sensible with quite a bit of experience with law and divided families has read his 7 page proposal.

She says it’s INSANE. That it’s 7 pages of reasons why me leaving him is a bloody good idea and she can’t wait to hear what the solicitor makes of it, but it’ll give her a bloody good laugh. That the Child Maintenance stuff he is suggesting is the most incredible display of narcissistic control-freakery she’s ever seen, and that it will probably end up in a text book.

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C0NNIE · 13/12/2020 21:51

Sorry I thought you had a son and a daughter #confused

C0NNIE · 13/12/2020 21:52

I think I 💕your friend.