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Last week I told DH I want a divorce

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 16/08/2020 19:25

Things have been very rocky for 8 months, going steadily downhill for 2 years. Not going to bore you with the details. We have 2 children.

He says no. A flat no, it’s not happening. He can’t do it. He’s been divorced before. He admits his behaviour over the last year hasn’t been good enough and he hasn’t been present or involved.

I’ve told him I love him but I’m no longer in love with him. He asked what love is anyway.

I can’t live in a sexless, affection less marriage for another 40 years. There have been ultimatums and serious discussions about separating before but he’s finally starting to pay it some attention.

He’s a good man and a good father. But he’s not listening. I think he thinks that if he keeps telling me it will all be ok that he’ll get his own way. I’ve agreed to counselling but we’ll be going into it with two very separate aims - his to make it work, mine to have an amicable divorce.

I’m absolutely sure of my decision. We’re good friends who have children. The spark is gone and we have very different views on what we want from life.

I don’t want it to get to the stage where we are arguing every day and lose all respect for each other. He thinks I’m being idealistic and we can sort it all out. But we can’t. I no longer desire him or want him as a partner. We’re basically room mates.

I know he was shocked, I know it takes time. But he can’t say no forever can he?

We both work, there’s no affair or anything.

How do I keep pushing this? Like so many things over the course of our marriage, I’m the one having to be the grown up and make the decision.

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Daftapath · 09/12/2020 16:25

I thought that there had to be full disclosure of finances before any mediation? Or is it only voluntary? Well, clearly he believes it's voluntary!!

justilou1 · 09/12/2020 22:25

I don’t trust this fucker. I think skip mediation and go straight to lawyers after getting half of every account you can withdrawn ASAP.

LannieDuck · 09/12/2020 22:49

This must be so difficult. You're doing really well Flowers

RandomMess · 10/12/2020 22:40

I hope you've made a decision on whether to cancel mediation or not Thanks

Just keep it moving forward and start being more self centred. Do what is best for you and the DC and do not consider his needs anymore because he continually shows zero consideration of yours and the DC.

Ohalrightthen · 11/12/2020 15:15

Been thinking of you today (got a big delivery of wine and thought about you making your way through his stash), hope you're finding your way through this bit OK and still managing to find a bit of Christmas joy.

StuckInPollyannaMode · 11/12/2020 17:03

Thanks all.

We went ahead.

I cried a lot.

In a nutshell:

It’s my decision to leave and he shouldn’t be penalised for that. I have made my bed and should lie in it.

He doesn’t see why I can’t rent for the next 22 years.

Or that I should have any share of his pensions.

Or that child maintenance should cover any more than their activities.

It is my ‘choice’ to rent ‘such an expensive house’ (under 900 a month) and I need to fund myself. He won’t meet the shortfall.

He is absolutely FURIOUS that I have engaged a solicitor as I am just going to waste his money on fees.

Him not telling me about the pension money was an ‘oversight’ and not done maliciously, he was saving for our future.

It was absolutely brutal and I am exhausted. Went for a walk with a friend straight after then picked up the kids.

He is going to consider options ahead of next week. I agreed one more as he STILL doesn’t have a deal I can put in front of the solicitor. I am £600 a month short and apparently that is my issue.

I’m about to have a double gin.

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 11/12/2020 17:04

Oh and the best bit - he wants 50k of the house equity so he can equip his mew house.

With what, fucking gold curtains in every room?!

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ArrowsOfMistletoe · 11/12/2020 17:08

Well, he can say all that stuff - but unfortunately for him, the law in the UK doesn't agree with him. You're married, he has obligations, end of.

Mine tried this too shortly after I told him we were divorcing - claimed the house was more his than mine because his mother's inheritance had paid off the mortgage. So I told him that after an almost 20 year marriage and 2 kids, the law would see it differently and then stopped engaging.

It's going to have to be solicitors for you, I'm afraid - he has no intention of meeting his obligations unless he's forced to.

C0NNIE · 11/12/2020 17:13

Sorry you were so upset OP, it’s sounds traumatic.

I’m glad he’s furious. The more you write about him, the more unpleasant he sounds.

As @ArrowsOfMistletoe says, he’s not going to pay anything for his children until he’s forced to. His amazing dad act didn’t last long, did it.

His true colours are showing now.

zippityzip · 11/12/2020 17:16

Gellercunt is really feeling sorry for himself and positioning himself in front of the kids welfare isn't he.

"It’s my decision to leave and he shouldn’t be penalised for that. I have made my bed and should lie in it."

Has he asked himself WHY you are leaving? Because he's an awful useless husband, unloving, selfish and utterly depraved. No effort in his marriage - so yes he should absolutely accept his part in that.

"He doesn’t see why I can’t rent for the next 22 years."

Why the fuck should you when you've sacrificed your career and time and youth so that he can climb the career ladder whilst he feathers his secret nest. Without you he would not have been able to work.

"Or that I should have any share of his pensions."

As above - secret hoarding lying bastard.

"Or that child maintenance should cover any more than their activities."

Yes because children, HIS children, live on fresh air and after school clubs. They can survive solely on that. Which - honestly wouldn't shock me if that's what he believed given that he is so utterly useless as a parent and partner.

"It is my ‘choice’ to rent ‘such an expensive house’ (under 900 a month) and I need to fund myself. He won’t meet the shortfall."

Is he that deluded that he has no idea how much a) rent costs and b) a doting parent wants a stable, safe and pleasant home setting for their children.

"He is absolutely FURIOUS that I have engaged a solicitor as I am just going to waste his money on fees."

Good - I hope it hurts.

"Him not telling me about the pension money was an ‘oversight’ and not done maliciously, he was saving for our future."

He was saving for HIS future - not yours. Not the future of his children. He was thinking of his carribean cruise and midlife crisis sports car. No one FORGETS half a million pounds.

@StuckInPollyannaMode Please take this bastard to the cleaners. How fucking dare he think that he is somehow worth more and better than you AND his own kids. Selfish prick.

I'm so sorry you've had such an awful day. You do not deserve this and he's really showing his true colours on where he prioritises his cash flow over the kids welfare.

Get that gin in you - get SHL to rip him to pieces. And get what you deserve.

dexterslockedintheshedagain · 11/12/2020 18:24

I am so angry in your behalf, OP 😡😡😡

LilyLongJohn · 11/12/2020 18:25

Just remember OP, you don't have to agree to anything at this point!

He can say whatever he wants, request anything he wants and argue as much as he wants - doesn't mean he'll get it.

Take it to court, let a judge decide

MotherofTerriers · 11/12/2020 19:14

I'm so sorry.
Please remember that he can say what he wants, with as much authority and emphasis as he wishes, but it makes no difference. Your children are entitled to child maintenance and you are entitled to at least half of all assets, probably more. How he thinks this should play out is irrelevant.

DartmoorDoughnut · 11/12/2020 20:37

What a fucking wanker Angry

Please tell your SHL to get you everything you’re entitled too

Grittlelayrabbit · 11/12/2020 20:51

Seriously bin off mediation, go straight to your solicitor, and go formal and hostile.

Daftapath · 12/12/2020 00:11

What did the mediator say in response to him?

It's doesn't sound as though there is any point in having another session frankly, you will never get a suitable offer from him. He has made it clear what he thinks. Let your solicitor deal with him.

No wonder you are exhausted.

justilou1 · 12/12/2020 00:26

I think he is in for a VERY big shock.

caringcarer · 12/12/2020 01:05

Some men agree things are not good, do not try to make them better but at the same time refuse a divorce. My ex did this. I found out he cheated and divorced him. He made it hard as he denied cheating even though a friend of mine had seen him out with OW at very expensive restaurant he only took me to on my birthday. In court he tried to claim mistaken identify. I got there in the end though.

StuckInPollyannaMode · 12/12/2020 02:57

Well both kids are curled up in my bed and I’m wide awake. I just keep looking at them and thinking why does he not want the best for them?

It’s probably best I don’t try to understand him, to be honest. I’ll drive myself nuts.

Oh, you’ll enjoy this. Email out from local theatre offering £15 tickets to the panto. He refused to get them on the grounds that he’s going to have to pay for the divorce.

I’m married to an idiot. He went to bed at 8pm climbing ‘extreme exhaustion’. The kids and I had a nice evening watching The Grinch.

Apropo of nothing, I’ve suddenly remembered the time I asked him to pay into a pension for me whilst I was on Mat leave then off with the kids. Also a no.

He has taken agin me going to Aldi and wants me to do the weekly shop at Lidl tomorrow. Just like him taking my car, he is just doing this to piss me off.

Shame about those few things I’ll get that happen to fall out at a friends house on the way home, isn’t it? #gin

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 12/12/2020 03:05

God sorry, I keep finishing messages without replying to questions and the realising and posting again.

By the way, why do lots of other women going through a traumatic event lose loads of weight and become thin and positively waif like? I on the other hand need to rein it in or I’m in danger of being mistaken for the Michelin Man.

The mediator asked him how he thinks things can be fair and does he recognise my contribution to the family home we have now. Plus a lot of other stuff, including the fact (when he went on the rampage a bit) that it doesn’t matter what she thinks, she’s there to make sure both of us have a chance to say our piece and to try and make a deal.

I’m giving it one more shot. At least no one can say then I haven’t tried.

Do I need a certificate or anything to say that I’ve been to mediation by the way? Someone asked me how I’m going to prove it, and I don’t know how.

Time to watch some cake decorating videos on Insta. Curiously soothing.

I’m tempted, by the way, to compile a statement for the mediator to read out next Friday. Culled from all your comments. Seeing as how I was like a watering can and didn’t get my points across as well as I could have done.

Thoughts?

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RandomMess · 12/12/2020 03:42

He he wants the shopping from Lidl he can his fucking self.

AngryAngryAngryAngry

justilou1 · 12/12/2020 03:44

I think it would be satisfying to make a video comprised of Geller memes, but I suspect they’d go totally over his entitled head.

RandomMess · 12/12/2020 03:58

We are you even doing a weekly shop? Go tomorrow and buy for you and the kids only.

I really think he is banking on bullying you into doing what he wants.

Refused to contribute to a pension for you then doesn't think he should share his, he can fuck the fuck off with that.

Arghgghhhhhhhhh

I would love to know the other side of his ex wives.

Nat6999 · 12/12/2020 04:41

StuckinPollyannamode I lost 6 stone from when my marriage turned to crap to when my divorce came through, a total time of a year. I knew that I wanted it over at Christmas, told him in April, we separated in May after he raped me & tried to burn the house down with me & ds in it. My solicitor got me in court 9 days after I left him & my decree absolute came in January the year after. He played every dirty trick he could, I had a barrister who wiped the floor with him.

justilou1 · 12/12/2020 05:37

I have come back because it just occurred to me that you are still “Wifing” for him by shopping and cooking, etc... JUST STOP! His opinions no longer matter. He’s gone!

Last week I told DH I want a divorce