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Last week I told DH I want a divorce

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 16/08/2020 19:25

Things have been very rocky for 8 months, going steadily downhill for 2 years. Not going to bore you with the details. We have 2 children.

He says no. A flat no, it’s not happening. He can’t do it. He’s been divorced before. He admits his behaviour over the last year hasn’t been good enough and he hasn’t been present or involved.

I’ve told him I love him but I’m no longer in love with him. He asked what love is anyway.

I can’t live in a sexless, affection less marriage for another 40 years. There have been ultimatums and serious discussions about separating before but he’s finally starting to pay it some attention.

He’s a good man and a good father. But he’s not listening. I think he thinks that if he keeps telling me it will all be ok that he’ll get his own way. I’ve agreed to counselling but we’ll be going into it with two very separate aims - his to make it work, mine to have an amicable divorce.

I’m absolutely sure of my decision. We’re good friends who have children. The spark is gone and we have very different views on what we want from life.

I don’t want it to get to the stage where we are arguing every day and lose all respect for each other. He thinks I’m being idealistic and we can sort it all out. But we can’t. I no longer desire him or want him as a partner. We’re basically room mates.

I know he was shocked, I know it takes time. But he can’t say no forever can he?

We both work, there’s no affair or anything.

How do I keep pushing this? Like so many things over the course of our marriage, I’m the one having to be the grown up and make the decision.

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BlueThistles · 06/11/2020 00:46

Good stuff OP.. you're getting there Flowers

Sleepforever · 09/11/2020 19:10

How are you doing op? Thinking of you x

StuckInPollyannaMode · 13/11/2020 10:47

Morning all

Bit of a quieter week this week. In spite of intense physical exercise, my insomnia is back - am shattered. Just about functioning. Sorry I didn't see your message before now @Sleepforever

His latest concern is that he's going to die alone. It's just so wearing.

Mediation starts next week and I am sooooo not looking forward to it, particularly as we'll both be here - can't do it face to face thanks to bloody lockdown. Need to get my finance forms sorted.

He's working insane hours to account for the fact that he's done 4 school runs this week. Lots of sighing and 'I'll have to work until midnight' which I"m just going 'oh' to but is bloody irritating.

No news on barns, don't hold your breath. Stuff starting to come on now for December and the WI continue to give me leads to follow up!

@Daftapath sale and purchase tied together so no, he won't get taxed.

On the plus side, it's finally stopped raining and I've landed another 2 clients this week, so work really busy and I'm really enjoying it. Got a nice dinner planned for tonight with the kids and a long walk with a friend to look forward to tomorrow.

Hope everyone else doing ok.

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 13/11/2020 10:49

oh - absolutely howled at the SuperValu Christmas ad - if you haven't seen it, get the tissues out...

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HaggisBurger · 13/11/2020 10:53

It’s lovely isn’t it that ad. Beautiful

Inaseagull · 13/11/2020 11:01

What a fantastic ad, the twist in the tail... genius!

KatherineJaneway · 13/11/2020 12:19

That ad is amazing

MadameMiggeldy · 13/11/2020 14:49

Yea take that John Lewis ad 😂

katmarie · 13/11/2020 18:34

All his whinging about having to work so much, is he hoping you're going to take pity on him and realise that this awful divorce idea is just too mean to him?! He's a knob isn't he? I can imagine that's just making him even more deeply unattractive. Its also making it ever more obvious that he has no concept of what you've been putting into the relationship.

RandomMess · 14/11/2020 11:09

He is incredibly self centre all me me me me.

Does he ever mention anything about the children?

Good to know your purpose was to do all child stuff so his life was unaffected and your other purpose was to be his companion in life because he doesn't want to be on his own - you must feel so valued!!!

ilikemethewayiam · 14/11/2020 12:05

Agree with PP, it’s all about him and how he feels. He’s totally self absorbed!

Keep concentrating on you and your DC. You’ve already given your ‘D’H more than enough of YOU. Make it all about you/DC now. You’ve got this. 💐

StuckInPollyannaMode · 18/11/2020 17:33

Just popping on to let you all know I’ve got a house! Will be able to walk the girls to school, close to several of their friends, big garden they’ve said I can put a trampoline in, and they’re even leaving a few bits of furniture I’ll find really useful.

Phew. So relieved.

Now, who wants to be a fly on the wall when I tell Geller?

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RandomMess · 18/11/2020 17:51

Whoop whoop

Me me me me me me me

Can I?

😆🤪

DPotter · 18/11/2020 17:52

Brilliant news!

Maybe don't tell him till the day of moving or after you've signed the contracts at the earliest - just to reduce the high sighs quota if nothing else

RandomMess · 18/11/2020 17:53

When do you get the keys?

I suggest moving ASAP and you can go back there for Christmas Day and he can host Wink

S00LA · 18/11/2020 17:57

Well done that’s great. I agree, dont tell him anything until much nearer the time. You will be stressed enough about the move and you don’t need any more drama from him.

RuthTopp · 18/11/2020 17:59

Best news. Congratulations - your new life is almost there WineFlowersFlowersCake

zippityzip · 18/11/2020 18:06

Expect this....

But I am so pleased for you. Good luck breaking the news. Have gin and friends on standby.

Last week I told DH I want a divorce
ValleysGirl72 · 18/11/2020 19:24

@StuckInPollyannaMode are you able to set up a Web cam or something and sell tickets?

pointythings · 18/11/2020 19:37

Amazing! Do please report back on his reaction.

BlueThistles · 18/11/2020 21:42

CONGRATULATIONS OP Flowers

p.s. that advert is wonderful Blush

ilikemethewayiam · 19/11/2020 00:44

Wonderful news OP. Agree with others, reduce any misery and drama by not telling him until the 11th hour!

Now your new life begins! Go make it the best you can! You are free!

💐

StuckInPollyannaMode · 19/11/2020 06:18

I’m going to have to tell him, because I want to tell the children - I’m taking them to see it next week. Can’t have it til January, but it’s a happy house. Feels solid and safe.

I’m afraid you’ll just have to settle for me recounting it! With social distancing a party is out so I can’t make any big announcement. Damn that would have been fun.

I’m filling out my financial forms. God it’s depressing. I’ve achieved so little in the last ten years in terms of savings and investments. Determined to learn more about this going forward.

Any tips for the mediation session? My main thing is around the kids. He’s still gunning for 50/50. But he clearly can’t cope - he’s working til 10 every night and that’s with me doing the cooking etc. Remember, the aim here is to keep things civil til we move out and I’m not leaving without an agreement on the children. Preferably with them.

Fascinated to hear what the mediator says about it all.

I actually slept last night. Oh, the relief!

PS he’s claimed to several friends he still doesn’t understand why I want a divorce and what the issue is

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LilyLongJohn · 19/11/2020 07:01

Re mediation, go prepared. If it's mainly about the dc then go with a good understanding of how you'll juggle work and ensuring you are there for the dc. Have it all mapped out. Any childcare arrangements sorted etc.

When he's pushing for 50/50 I'd be asking him how he will work this, how will he ensure he's at home for the dc, you could ask him about which childcare options he's thinking about? Then you can offer your services. I always found it helped if my ex thought I was putting myself out for him. He'd never do the same for me but if he's ask me to have the dc on one of his weekends I'd always agree, but I'd also 'swap' it for a weekend I had in my pocket. 'Of course I'll have the dc on x dates, could you have them for me in x date too' that way he could rarely say no.

In your situation he could say 'well I can afford childcare, or they can come to work with me' your response 'ok that could work, but how about I help out and have them on week days and we can share the fun stuff on the weekends? That way the dc are catered for and you still get to work and see them' or offer up eow and one night in the week.

A mediator won't necessarily offer up opinions but they will steer the conversation. My ex went in with no preparation and went in quite entitled, I was polite and prepared which I think helped me no end

Plus remember you don't have to agree to anything there and then.

RandomMess · 19/11/2020 07:41

If you don't get the house until
January I would think about holding off telling them yet. 7 weeks is a LONG time to them!!!

You both have parental responsibility but you are primary parent so you can leave with the DC and the closer it is to the house selling the more obtuse and unreasonable he will be.

His childcare options - you make it clear that if uses childcare he organises and pays for it and you ask form the right of "first refusal" which means he gives you the option of caring for them before he uses childcare.

You can say well if I'm collecting them from school and keeping them until 6.30pm then they stay with me overnight, you can always pick them up and do the school run in the morning. Remember it's all counted in overnights otherwise he will have you doing all the grunge work and not have to pay maintenance...

You need to emphasise him having them overnights means he does the parenting - washing uniform, paying for school lunches, doing their homework, feeding them etc. Basically call him out on his belief of wanting 50:50 without doing the work.

Hope you still aren't cooking for him or doing his washing!!

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