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Last week I told DH I want a divorce

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StuckInPollyannaMode · 16/08/2020 19:25

Things have been very rocky for 8 months, going steadily downhill for 2 years. Not going to bore you with the details. We have 2 children.

He says no. A flat no, it’s not happening. He can’t do it. He’s been divorced before. He admits his behaviour over the last year hasn’t been good enough and he hasn’t been present or involved.

I’ve told him I love him but I’m no longer in love with him. He asked what love is anyway.

I can’t live in a sexless, affection less marriage for another 40 years. There have been ultimatums and serious discussions about separating before but he’s finally starting to pay it some attention.

He’s a good man and a good father. But he’s not listening. I think he thinks that if he keeps telling me it will all be ok that he’ll get his own way. I’ve agreed to counselling but we’ll be going into it with two very separate aims - his to make it work, mine to have an amicable divorce.

I’m absolutely sure of my decision. We’re good friends who have children. The spark is gone and we have very different views on what we want from life.

I don’t want it to get to the stage where we are arguing every day and lose all respect for each other. He thinks I’m being idealistic and we can sort it all out. But we can’t. I no longer desire him or want him as a partner. We’re basically room mates.

I know he was shocked, I know it takes time. But he can’t say no forever can he?

We both work, there’s no affair or anything.

How do I keep pushing this? Like so many things over the course of our marriage, I’m the one having to be the grown up and make the decision.

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Daftapath · 28/09/2020 16:09

He would have to still pay towards the costs of the family home as well as rent somewhere himself.

Would he ever agree to that? I suspect that I know the answer

RandomMess · 28/09/2020 16:37
Thanks

Just confirms you are doing the right thing.

Every time he mentions its moving to fast

"Not my fault you didn't listen for the last 2 years"

StuckInPollyannaMode · 28/09/2020 16:51

Oh, that counts as me being unreasonable @RandomMess and apparently is me being aggressive

Last ditch attempt- going to see if he’ll go to a mediator to sort out finances and kids. Try and keep the legal costs down.

@Daftapath nooo, how could he afford it?!

Hilarious. I’m taking the kids away next Friday to a friends to enable the agent to do viewings. He has one thing to sort - himself. He’s booked himself into a Premier Inn and is going to spend the day wandering round our nearest big city. Doesn’t ‘feel right’ to go to any of our mutual friends (aka MY friends) as that will put them in the middle. Also known as, he’s scared of them telling him some home truths...

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BlueThistles · 28/09/2020 16:54

watching in awe of you OP, you are doing great. Fingers crossed you find something for you and the kids asap. Flowers

notapizzaeater · 28/09/2020 17:01

You are doing fab, he's just trying to wear you down ....

RandomMess · 28/09/2020 17:42

Every time he complains and moans tell him to stop being aggressive 🙄

StuckInPollyannaMode · 29/09/2020 10:04

Just had a call with child benefit - should be in my account in 5 working days and they’re backdating it to the day I asked him for a divorce! I could go back to the start of the tax year, but then it’ll be lodged against his tax and he’ll owe me the money - and we all know that’ll never show.

So I’ve started it from the middle of August and it’s mine (well, the kids) going forward.

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RandomMess · 29/09/2020 10:11

Hurrah!

Now just to find a rental property and put in a claim to CMS!!!

RandomMess · 29/09/2020 10:12

I mean put in a claim to CMS today because it's the only way you'll get money from him... it will take a while to sort out.

He can voluntarily give you the amount they calculate and you can choose to give him some back towards the board and bills once your debts are paid off.

Jus crack on and let the fireworks go over your head.

S00LA · 29/09/2020 10:38

Well done OP. Onwards and Upwards.

CMS next. And start a bingo card for STBX reactions.

I’ll start

I’m sorry you felt the need to do this, surely we can sort this out as adults.

I can’t believe you don’t trust me to do the right thing. You know I always put the children first.

You are not the woman I married

Ok you’ve made your point now, can we stop this charade ?

justilou1 · 29/09/2020 12:24

That’s great! Now we need to find a non-hobbit hole property!!!

StuckInPollyannaMode · 29/09/2020 20:00

House photos done. Quite emotional. Worked my socks off to get it looking good.

He came home and said it looked clinical.

Can’t win.

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S00LA · 29/09/2020 20:02

Well done for all that work - I’m sure it will be worthwhile, so many people don't seem to make the effort for photos and it puts off prospective viewers.

RandomMess · 29/09/2020 20:08

He's the joy police...

Mumoftwo1994 · 29/09/2020 20:19

@StuckInPollyannaMode

Things have been very rocky for 8 months, going steadily downhill for 2 years. Not going to bore you with the details. We have 2 children.

He says no. A flat no, it’s not happening. He can’t do it. He’s been divorced before. He admits his behaviour over the last year hasn’t been good enough and he hasn’t been present or involved.

I’ve told him I love him but I’m no longer in love with him. He asked what love is anyway.

I can’t live in a sexless, affection less marriage for another 40 years. There have been ultimatums and serious discussions about separating before but he’s finally starting to pay it some attention.

He’s a good man and a good father. But he’s not listening. I think he thinks that if he keeps telling me it will all be ok that he’ll get his own way. I’ve agreed to counselling but we’ll be going into it with two very separate aims - his to make it work, mine to have an amicable divorce.

I’m absolutely sure of my decision. We’re good friends who have children. The spark is gone and we have very different views on what we want from life.

I don’t want it to get to the stage where we are arguing every day and lose all respect for each other. He thinks I’m being idealistic and we can sort it all out. But we can’t. I no longer desire him or want him as a partner. We’re basically room mates.

I know he was shocked, I know it takes time. But he can’t say no forever can he?

We both work, there’s no affair or anything.

How do I keep pushing this? Like so many things over the course of our marriage, I’m the one having to be the grown up and make the decision.

If he refuses then you have to wait 5 years I think and then he has no choice I believe. This is what happened with my mum and dad, although it took them about 10 years because my mum wouldn't pay for it.
justilou1 · 30/09/2020 04:29

Luckily you’re not doing this for his approval anymore, isn’t it?

OhCaptain · 30/09/2020 08:17

@StuckInPollyannaMode

House photos done. Quite emotional. Worked my socks off to get it looking good.

He came home and said it looked clinical.

Can’t win.

Who cares? Honestly, who gives a shit what he thinks?

Make sure to sort CMS though. Because it’ll take a while to process it.

RandomMess · 30/09/2020 08:40

Well he should have done it himself then shouldn't he but no it's far better to use it as an opportunity to criticise you...

He must be a joy to work for!!

Squooka · 30/09/2020 09:17

@StuckInPollyannaMode

House photos done. Quite emotional. Worked my socks off to get it looking good.

He came home and said it looked clinical.

Can’t win.

The only way to win this game is to stop playing. Which is exactly what you're doing
justilou1 · 30/09/2020 12:05

It may not feel like it, but you ARE winning because you’re leaving the sad, mean git

StuckInPollyannaMode · 30/09/2020 21:28

Well. He’s spoken to a solicitor today. And opts for....mediation!!

Actually had a decent conversation with him about Significant Stuff for the first time. Got him to work through the first 15 points on the parenting plan. I say got him to, what I mean is I emailed him the questions, sat him down and lead the conversation 🙄

Apparently he now understands why I don’t want to be with him.

Whatever.

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justilou1 · 30/09/2020 23:23

And he reacts with glacial speed...!
I said you’re winning!

StuckInPollyannaMode · 01/10/2020 05:42

Doesn’t feel like it @justilou1! But we are inching forward.

Can’t sleep.

Apparently the solicitor he spoke to told him he was being more than fair and generous. She was concerned by the speed this was moving and that the house was about to go on the market. That we may all need to rent together until the financial settlement is agreed (I don’t know if he’s realised this means the swanky exec new build may be off limits).

She said that we can agree whatever we want in terms of the children but that it never ends up working out like that, that children have ideas of their own and we may well end up with one at one house and one at the other.

Apparently he paid for that session. Nothing like any of the ones I had.

Very troubled by the comments about the children.

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LilyLongJohn · 01/10/2020 07:48

If he's anything like my ex, he hears part of a sentence, and then makes his own narrative around the remaining. No solicitor will have said that about the dc, he's talking out of his arse.

StuckInPollyannaMode · 01/10/2020 07:55

Thank you, that makes more sense.

He collared me by the bathroom and asked me to print out forms relating to getting the pensions sorted. I’ll be living in the Bahamas whilst he will be in Basildon.

I pointed out I have pensions too.

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