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DP lying about a girl at work..

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Redwine125 · 09/08/2020 20:19

Hi.. I wrote a thread about this ages ago where I suspected my DP of messing around with someone from work. I've name changed since that post but I'll have to give you a bit of a back story...

DP cheated very early on in our relationship.. I forgave him, moved on from it, 3 years later down the line we have a 6 month old baby together.

When I was heavily pregnant, he had mentionitus about some girl at work.. In my last post I called her *Laura so ill stick with that name. A few things didn't sit right with me, conversations they'd had at work which he relayed to me when he got home. One of which she told him she wished she could find someone like him.
I was too pregnant, uncomfortable and exhausted to question him at the time so let it lie.. But I did notice he'd always spray the life out of himself with purfume before he left the house in the morning, was always popping into work on his days off for an hour or two, finishing late some nights, and loads of other stuff I can't really remember now as my heads like mush.

Anyway, I had the baby and then lockdown happened, and I happened to see a text come through off this girl. In the text she'd congratulated him for having the baby, knows all about me, but then told him she missed him and added 3 kisses on the end. He replied and told her he missed her too and couldn't wait for a catch up when they got back to work and added 3 kisses on the end.

Well, I saw red didn't I. Confronted him, yelled, accused.. All of that. He swore blindly it was nothing that he wasn't doing anything and it was just banta (as they all say) so again. I let it lie as I was trying to concentrate on my baby.

Then he randomly shaved his ballsac and pubes all off in lockdown and lied about it, saying he'd accidently shaved too much when he was trying to trim it. There was other stuff too but I can't remember right now...

We've had many arguments about this where I've called BS to his face and its all deny deny deny. He went back to work and on the day he went back to work he deleted thier texts (yes I checked) last week we had a major row because he was off work but said he was going to work to sort something out (a customer he was dealing with) and was away for about an hour and when I checked his call log that night he'd rang *Laura at the time he'd left the house to pop into work. He said she was sorting something out in work for him whilst he was off and he had to ring her for this reason. (I do see all his colleagues numbers in his call log as they ring each other regarding customers)

Anyway. He ended up deleting her number from his phone in front 0f me shouting that he was sick of being accused of stuff... But then tonight.. He came home and said "oh BTW I was talking to Kelly in work today. She's got a pug and a labrador and she's going to breed the labrador and said I could have one of the puppies. Well.. I'd already pre stalked Laura's fb and low and behold on her cover photo she has a photo of a pug and a labrador.

My stomach dropped because I immediately knew he wasn't talking about Kelly he was talking about Laura.

I haven't said anything as I'm sick of arguing with him about it
But why lie AGAIN? Do you think he's just pretending it's someone else so I don't kick off or do you think he's having an affair?

He was with me the entire lockdown. Only left the house to go food shopping. He goes to work and comes home and doesn't go anywhere. I don't know if it's a EA or a crush or what. Advice?

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imissthesouth · 09/08/2020 22:00

So sorry OP. I do think he's at least trying to cheat even is he isn't there already. The most sensible option would be to leave him whilst you still can. Thinking of you❤️

PrincessHoneysuckle · 09/08/2020 22:04

Ask if you can go see the puppies with him.He'll shit himself.Then you kick him out.

Redwine125 · 09/08/2020 22:05

@rvby the only thing is, I'd be really worried to leave my baby with him overnight if we did split. Now don't get me wrong, when he gets home from work he will take over with the baby, feed her, cuddle her in etc so I can have a little bit of a break.. He's always making her laugh and giggle and when he gets in from work she smiles from ear to ear to see him. BUT... when it comes to bed time he has no patience whatsoever. She's teething atm, very testy bless her and fights her sleep (or cant sleep because of teething) she sleeps all through the night but he loses his temper when she puts up a fight to sleep. I've a different thread regarding this.. And I end up just taking over... If I wasn't here I feel like he'd just leave her to scream and cry in her bed, give up trying to cuddle her in, not watch her properly... I would never ever stop him seeing her.. Ever.. But I would have concerns about him keeping her overnight.

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howlathebees · 09/08/2020 22:08

Oh Op I’m so sorry he’s doing this❤️ If I were you I would leave, he’s clearly not committed to your relationship

Redwine125 · 09/08/2020 22:09

@PrincessHoneysuckle that's exactly what I was thinking 😄 I said no to getting a puppy even though I really, really, really want a dog.. But I told him 1.id only get one when my daughters older and 2.id get a rescue dog.. There's plenty dogs in shelters who are desperate for a loving home. He wouldnt walk it.. Or.. He would and probs secretly meet up with her. He'd have the perfect excuse to get out the house wouldn't he.

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RogueV · 09/08/2020 22:10

He’s cheating on you.

He’s seeing her when he’s meant to be at work.

rvby · 09/08/2020 22:10

[quote Redwine125]@rvby the only thing is, I'd be really worried to leave my baby with him overnight if we did split. Now don't get me wrong, when he gets home from work he will take over with the baby, feed her, cuddle her in etc so I can have a little bit of a break.. He's always making her laugh and giggle and when he gets in from work she smiles from ear to ear to see him. BUT... when it comes to bed time he has no patience whatsoever. She's teething atm, very testy bless her and fights her sleep (or cant sleep because of teething) she sleeps all through the night but he loses his temper when she puts up a fight to sleep. I've a different thread regarding this.. And I end up just taking over... If I wasn't here I feel like he'd just leave her to scream and cry in her bed, give up trying to cuddle her in, not watch her properly... I would never ever stop him seeing her.. Ever.. But I would have concerns about him keeping her overnight.[/quote]
I get you. Do you know that if you leave when they are really small, especially under age 2, then overnights arent usually expected? It's when you leave when they are older and more independent that you are expected to offer overnights.

If you end it now, its considered reasonable to just have contact during the day.

Just a thought xx

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 09/08/2020 22:11

I'd say to him you'll want to go and see the puppies - ask him for 'Kelly's' number so you can arrange it

Just to see his face 🙂

Rayne30 · 09/08/2020 22:12

Why the lying. Why shaving. He’s bullshitting.

And I wouldn’t worry about overnights, he already knows he can’t hack it, why would he want that himself?

Redwine125 · 09/08/2020 22:14

@rvby oh I didn't know that. That's good then. I wouldn't be able to rest. She's never left my side since she was born. I think I have attachment issues with her as I'm scared to leave her with anyone.. But I shouldn't feel scared to leave her with her own dad... Every time I raise ANY concerns.. He just ignores them and carries on.

I just get stressed out because sometimes I feel like I'm totally being gaslighted, and other times I think...is he actually doing something or is it all in my head and I'm just over analysing every single detail.

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MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 09/08/2020 22:17

It's not all in your head though is it - can you really spend your life living like this?

MizMoonshine · 09/08/2020 22:20

Hey OP, I remember you!
The dude is being a douche. It doesn't matter if he's cheating or not. He's not being honest with you. You can't trust that, you can't rely on that.
I think he's had enough chances now, don't you?
Put the whole man in the bin.

isadorapolly · 09/08/2020 22:21

Op I left my husband after 5 children, the youngest was 1.

same situation really, someone at work ( he was her boss)He’s with her now and they’ve just had a baby.

I’m so glad I left. I remarried and had two more children, started a business together and literally have everything I could ever want...BUT....

The first year after separating was so hard. I didn’t love him anymore but I hated that I was proven right about them because he got with her about a month after I left him. It’s been 6 years now and I’ve only just brought myself to be nice to her. I sent her flowers after she had the baby ( I’m a florist so it wasn’t really much of a big deal for me really Grin )

So yes, leave, but be prepared for him to jump straight into bed with her and for the possibility of her becoming someone your baby will be spending time with in the future. I share my kids 50/50 with their dad and it’s very amicable, but I know it’s not like that for everyone.

Good luck x

isadorapolly · 09/08/2020 22:23

That feeling of being so sure he’s lying but not having any actual solid proof is the worst Sad trust your instincts!

SuperSange · 09/08/2020 22:24

My friend had an eight week old with her husband when he left her for a colleague. Even as little as one year later, she was glad he's left, she hadn't realised how awful he was until he was gone. He's lately been begging forgiveness but she's having the time of her life.

Redwine125 · 09/08/2020 22:29

@MrJollyLivesNextDoor no you're right, I can't. If I'm being totally honest I wanted concrete evidence so that it would be easier to leave. Instead of speculation or a hunch. There's been no other texts, he's not on any social media (because of the first time) he came off everything social media wise when he cheated the first time. He's only got one email account that I know of and they come through the laptop.. Can't see any others on his phone. All I have is every other day incoming or outgoing calls to her during work hours but he has other colleagues in his call log as well like his manager during work hours..

The ball shaving I never let go and interrogated him practically over it. He said he didn't know why he did it. It was during lockdown which made no sense as he wasn't going anywhere. I checked photos and recently deleted photos and found nothing. So I think he's just being extra careful covering his tracks.

Last November he did go away for training for a few nights.. And before I gave birth he signed Into fb as we were going to buy a pram on fb market, I could see he had loads of messages unread but he'd have to install messenger again to open them.. And when I said install it he completely freaked out, quickly deleted fb app again and said he hates social media.

I knew back then sonething fishy was going on but I was ready to drop and went into denial mode instead of demanding to see messages if he had nothing to hide.

I often think when he went away did he reinstall it and start chatting on there or does he reinstall it at work? It's never on his phone when I check, all the apps are deleted social media wise.

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GeorgiaGirl52 · 09/08/2020 22:31

[quote Redwine125]@rvby the only thing is, I'd be really worried to leave my baby with him overnight if we did split. Now don't get me wrong, when he gets home from work he will take over with the baby, feed her, cuddle her in etc so I can have a little bit of a break.. He's always making her laugh and giggle and when he gets in from work she smiles from ear to ear to see him. BUT... when it comes to bed time he has no patience whatsoever. She's teething atm, very testy bless her and fights her sleep (or cant sleep because of teething) she sleeps all through the night but he loses his temper when she puts up a fight to sleep. I've a different thread regarding this.. And I end up just taking over... If I wasn't here I feel like he'd just leave her to scream and cry in her bed, give up trying to cuddle her in, not watch her properly... I would never ever stop him seeing her.. Ever.. But I would have concerns about him keeping her overnight.[/quote]
What makes you think he would want her overnight? One night of screaming and crying and he would likely not want visitation. Besides as soon as you are gone he has "Laura" eager to move in with him.

Once a cheater always a cheater. Don't get a puppy. Don't have another child with him. Do leave and take your baby. You deserve to have a partner you can trust.

CherryCocktails · 09/08/2020 22:31

Ooo yes, ask to go and see the puppies! I wouldn't want to own a puppy I hadn't seen before it came home anyway so it's a good excuse! Then see his face when he realises his lie fucked up...

Redwine125 · 09/08/2020 22:31

@MizMoonshine put the whole man in the bin 😂😂 I actually laughed out loud at that! 😂

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Ablackrussian · 09/08/2020 22:35

I was you, eleven years ago. How I wish I'd just fucked him off!

I missed out on focusing on do many important milestones with my baby; my head was in the clouds. I really do regret it.

When did my baby start talking? Umm, not sure.

When did my ex shag Tracey from Tottenham? 13 Feb

Please, please just leave him to it. I so wish I'd listened to the advice I was given on here. My biggest regret! As well as giving him chance after chance after chance..

Redwine125 · 09/08/2020 22:40

@isadorapolly my goodness.. He literally jumped ship after 1 month? I think they've always got someone lined up. That's what I think she is anyway... I'm so glad you found love again, I like hearing stories like this when you find happiness again. I don't even know who I am anymore I've lost my identity and I'm desperate to find myself again. There's so much bitterness from the first time. I still get angry about it to this day.
It's just conflicting. One day I look at him and don't want to leave and love him so much and the next I'm thinking "look at that bastard sitting there, I'm falling out of love with him. He thinks he's fucking clever, the big twat."...im just so conflicted. I'm sick of bringing it up aswell and constantly questioning him but I can't help myself. That's why I'm debating whether to say anything or not or just keep my head down, focus on me and the baby, do my own thing and make plans to move out

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IndieTara · 09/08/2020 22:43

Yes I split from my husband when DD was 3 and 8 years later he hasn't changed and I'm still single. Best decision I ever made

Redwine125 · 09/08/2020 22:45

@GeorgiaGirl52 I'm defo not getting a puppy and 100% not having any more kids to him. He doesn't want anymore, he's got 2 from his previous marriage and says if he had anymore than 3 he'd have a nervous breakdown.

You're probably right he wouldn't be able to cope with her overnight. He'd love it. He'd be able to sit on his xbox again.

He said he hates being single he's always been in really long relationships.. So I know he wouldn't stay single for long. But whoever he ends up with, whether it's this young childless girl or not will have to take on 3 children to 2 different exes. He's already skint as it is paying maitnance to the ex wife (which he should rightly so do) so he wouldn't have much money to wine and dine her with that's for sure.

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copperoliver · 09/08/2020 22:46

I'd tell him I want him to leave. X

AcrossthePond55 · 09/08/2020 22:47

If things 'get better' for awhile it's because he knows he's in danger of losing his 'home comforts' so he does what he needs to in order to keep you sweet. After all, why would he want to give up his cook, cleaner, and 'bed partner'? Once he thinks he's 'done enough' to soothe you (which works because you do think things are better) then he knows he can 'relax' and go back to being who he really is; a liar and a cheat. What a horrible roller coaster to live on. You need to get off.

Let him get on with his bullshit. Concentrate on getting those very valuable ducks in a row. Talk to your mum again and tell her you're ready to be done with him. I'm sure she'll support you in doing what needs to be done.

As far as him having the baby overnight, I doubt if he'll really want to. He'll be too busy trying to live the single life with *Laura/Kelly. Besides absent a court order you don't have to let him take her overnight. You can set a reasonable schedule for visits and he can come to your mum's or meet in a park or other public place.

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