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A low point in marriage

190 replies

PeachyVee · 06/08/2020 01:37

Hi, I really need to offload and would appreciate some advice 😏. I've been with my husband for 15 years (married for 13), we have 3 wonderful kids aged 13, 11 and 10.
All in all, we've had a generally happy marriage and family life, as a couple we get on really well (on the surface), and I believe this has rubbed off on the children as they are all kind, respectful and polite young people, to which we are really proud of.
Underneath our happy demeanour I feel that there are lots of problems (in my opinion anyway), I feel that I am growing further and further apart from him, I am not the same person that I was when I met him at 21, I am growing and evolving as a person, and I honestly feel so trapped. He is a whole decade older than me, and I really feel like it's starting to show now.
He is not a bad person, he works hard, is motivated and is a brilliant father but I just don't think he "gets" who I am anymore.
I struggle with my mental health quite badly, and to put it bluntly, he is completely useless about it all. I try opening up to him and try to be as transparent as I can, I often struggle with suicidal thoughts, and although it's really hard for me to be open about it (for feeling ashamed) I do try and tell him, but it's always met by silence, a shrug of the shoulders or a quick hug and him telling me not to be "so silly". I get that not everyone knows what to do in these circumstances or what to say, but considering he is a healthcare professional by trade, it always baffles me why he just doesn't seem to care. Last week, I had it out with him and asked him why my mental health doesn't seem to worry/bother him to which he replied that he simply lacks empathy and doesn't know how to react.
He's also very controlling about certain things, especially finances, and every decision regarding our family life is made by him, my ideas or opinions are completely irrelevant. I go to work and I pay my way, but still we are not equal in our financial decision-making. We're still renting after 15 years and I would love to buy a house, but he says no, and that's final!.
The biggest issue in our marriage (sorry it's TMI) is to do with our sex life, he is completely obsessed with anal sex even though I hate it, he expects it to happen every time that we have sex, sex can never just be "normal" it always has to be about getting anal at the end of it. I've told him a million times that I hate it and that it hurts, but he doesn't care, and even when I allow him to do it and I'm crying in pain, he doesn't see that it's a problem. This has been going on for years now but it's getting worse, he tries to use bribery in order to "get it" , especially financial bribery, and he will call me selfish for not agreeing to it. It's starting to really affect me mentally now, and I feel like a part of me dies each time I allow him to do "it", I feel degraded, abused even. I can't remember the last time that I had sex sober, and now it's got to the point where I absolutely have NO sex drive, the last few times we've had sex (normal sex) I feel NOTHING, it just makes me cringe and feel disgusted. I think his behaviour and attitude to sex has just destroyed what ever intimacy we had left. I have found myself fantasising about meeting other men and having sex, just so I can feel like a normal woman again, I'm still horny but not for my husband anymore.
I really can't see things getting any better, it's getting harder and harder to envisage a long-term future with him. I've reached a point where I see that so many things are wrong, I feel restricted, suffocated and repressed and I long for a freedom where I can get to know myself properly again.
It's so hard because like I said, he's not a bad person and I HATE the thought of our children having to endure a family breakup, as bad as I feel things are, I feel it's just NOT enough to put them through that. In my head I've told myself that I won't do anything until my youngest is at least 16 (that's 6 years away), and maybe, just maybe things may have improved by then 🤷🏼‍♀️.
I still care about him as a person (and love him as the father of my kids), even up until a few years ago I still got butterflies when I saw him and still felt so in love with him, but sadly that's all gone... I don't want to hurt him, unlike me, he hasn't got close friends or a family close by and it genuinely hurts me to think of him potentially alone, I wish I could just get a little tougher.
I'm thinking of his feelings and the children's before mine, and it's me that deep-down is suffering and feeling so incredibly isolated. It's hard to open up to people because on the surface we look like this happy couple who are the best of friends.

Please, some words of advice or just your thoughts would be really welcomed. I just need to know that I'm not going mad 😢.

OP posts:
OoohTheStatsDontLie · 16/10/2020 21:36

Hi OP

Just came on here to say a couple of things.

You sound so strong and you're doing so well, I'm so sorry your parents let you down so badly but it's a show of your strength that you recognise its them being shit, rather than internalizing it, and considering cutting them out.

Also and I see other people have said it, don't take him at his word he is going to financially support you and play fair. Assume he is going to screw you over. Someone who can rape their wife, control their finances etc is not someone who has any normal boundaries or decency. Please protect yourself and see a solicitor etc and plan for him to make it as difficult as possible when reality hits. Have you got access to independent funds? I'd put a freeze on accounts or split them between you do he cant empty them etc

WithLotsOfSprinkles0 · 16/10/2020 22:04

If he is as abusive and controlling as you say he is, then this is the calming before the storm.

Abusers dont respond well to be deserted of. He cant take you seriously or hes got someone else lined up.

Either way, he needs to move out ASAP and until he does,.i think he'll be sickly sweet until hes feet are under the table again.

Be strong and move the cunt out.

PeachyVee · 19/10/2020 13:56

Hi everyone, thankyou again for all of your messages, I do read each and every one of them ♥️.
My head is all over the place at the moment. I haven't heard from my parents for a week now, since the day that I visited them to talk about stuff. I'm still feeling really upset about their response, and lack of support (not that I should really be surprised).
I have been doing a lot of reading up on narcissist mothers, and it's a relief and comfort to know that the problem lies with my mother and not me, although I am the one left with the damaged soul. I think that if there was ever a wake-up call, this is it, and I'm seriously considering going no contact with my parents, as hard as it will be, especially as guilt is a big part of my personality.
Anyway, regarding the marriage stuff. My husband and I are still continuing to be very amicable to one another, although it's getting weirder and weirder by the day, to share the same bed and even just be in the same room as him.
One day, he is in a great mood and really happy as if nothing has happened, and the next day, he is really low and looks as if he has got the weight of the world on his shoulders.
He's currently looking at properties to rent, as he wants to move out ASAP (quite rightly so).
The biggest worry now is of course, telling the children. We're planning to do it next week in the half-term, and we're both dreading it. We are planning to do it as "nicely" as we can, we'll say all of the "right things" and emphatically assure them that life will be pretty much the same, except that he will be living in a different house. Obviously, life WON'T be the same, BUT we will both still continue to spend as much time as we can with them equally, still share the school-runs, and still spend birthdays, Christmas, and other important days together as a family.
Not knowing how they are going to react is the worst thing, and after spending time with my very negative mother, in her opinion, I'm basically going to destroy my children's lives as well as my own of course for breaking up with my RAPIST husband!.
Because I'm feeling so emotional at the moment, I keep losing focus on why I've made this decision, I keep losing sight of just how utterly miserable I've been for years, and just how awful things have been, especially with the sex stuff. I'm still very much concerned about other people's opinions, and their reactions to our separation, I feel like I have to keep justifying myself to people. I think people are so "shocked" by this breakup because we've always come across as this close, tight-knit, non-volatile, happy family.
My husband still doesn't understand why I don't want to try to make things work, he has promised that he will never mention anal sex again, amongst all the other stuff, and I have had fleeting moments when I have actually thought it would be easier to just stay with him, but I know that I wouldn't be doing that for MYSELF, I would be doing it for everyone else, as I always have done in life.
I really need to stay strong and focused. Someone previously in the thread mentioned that I need to "find my anger" , and I seriously felt that, I DO need to find my anger. I need this anger to be bigger than this heartache that I feel!!.

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LaLaLandIsNoFun · 19/10/2020 14:01

You are with an absolute bastard who doesn’t give a flying fuck about you and who thinks raping you is ok.

Please please please get support - you deserve so so so much better than this and I’m willing to bet your mental health has a lot to do with this absolute minster of a man.

Bubbletrouble43 · 19/10/2020 14:34

Peachy you're doing this because you're worth more than being sexually abused. You deserve more out of life. There are people out there who will appreciate you and be kind to you. And you need to be kind to yourself by giving yourself an abuse free future. Keep going.

workshy44 · 19/10/2020 14:35

I don't doubt that if you were to relent he probably wouldn't mention anal sex again, not for a while anyway now he knows he has pushed you beyond your limit and have the courage to walk away. Problem is, if you are like me once the realization hits, there is no going back. He treated you as badly as he thought he could get away with, now he knows he can't he is as nice as pie. That makes it worse in some ways as he knew exactly what he was doing. It wasn't some compulsion he couldn't control, he just believed you would never leave him. There's a whole world out there beyond having a rapist for a husband. I wouldn't worry about what others thing, people are far too self involved and once they hear I doubt many will give it as second thought

RantyAnty · 19/10/2020 15:02

If you haven't already, see if the DV place you called can connect you with a female counselor. Do you have friends in real life you can talk to also.

The sooner he is gone the better it will be for you.
See if you can get a referral to a good lawyer too and start the process. I wouldn't say a word to him about any of it.

Try to do something nice for yourself today and keep posting. There's always someone around and the wise women on here are lovely.

wholelottaworry · 27/10/2020 14:52

@workshy44 is totally right. This man, sadly, didn't think your feelings or your physical well-being (given the physical pain he caused you too) were worthwhile considering when he thought you were under his control and is only being nice to keep you onside. You are so brave and doing such a good job - try to let the guilt go about others and please yourself. If you need to find your anger to do this, keep searching for it! In the long run, I think you ARE doing this for your children - whilst they do not know or need to know the details of your sex life, they will undoubtedly pick up on inequalities/control/sadness/resentment etc in time, honestly - amicable divorce really isn't the worst thing they could be witnessing.

madcatladyforever · 27/10/2020 18:12

I don't think I have ever been so disgusted with a post before.
never mind the kids or how lonely he will be, sod him, you need to start the process of leaving him, get the hell out of there.
You rent so rent somewhere else, leave this prick. I think I know where ALL of your mental health problems are coming from.
He's ground you down so badly you can no longer think straight. He has destroyed the family not you.

Everyonetakeiteasy · 24/12/2020 01:59

OP I hope everything is okay, and that you've not given up! Stay strong and trust that there's a better life, a FREE life on the other side.
If it helps to better understand toxicity in regards to your h and parents too, perhaps try a website called Baggage Reclaim. It disciases such things at length.
I hope you have found your anger!! Flowers 💐 to you

soopedup · 24/12/2020 04:15

Was just wondering how you are OP. Hope you managed to get him to move out

PeachyVee · 25/12/2020 21:47

Hi everyone, wishing you all a very merry Christmas!. I tried to write an update, I wrote a really long message and for some reason it didn't send 🤦🏼‍♀️.
Hopefully, this one will!.
I will keep it short this time. Basically, he moved out a month ago. It's been emotional.
I am in a new relationship!, and I am extremely happy and looking forward to a future!. My mental health has improved so much despite the emotional upheaval.
I'm still trying to find my anger, but focusing on setting boundaries 🙏

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mydinneristasty · 27/12/2020 17:55

Wonderful news. Well done OP. Better things ahead. How exciting. Enjoy.

Craftycorvid · 27/12/2020 18:15

Wishing you every happiness. Your story was one of the most distressing I’ve heard and, for context, I work with women who have been in abusive relationships. You’ve shown enormous courage in leaving not only a highly abusive marriage but in detaching yourself from an abusive relationship with your parents. Now you get to choose who your true family is, your children plus whoever else you want to let into your life.

Treemama · 28/12/2020 21:44

Good for you OP! You're very brave. Hope all goes well with your new relationship Flowers

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