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A low point in marriage

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PeachyVee · 06/08/2020 01:37

Hi, I really need to offload and would appreciate some advice 😏. I've been with my husband for 15 years (married for 13), we have 3 wonderful kids aged 13, 11 and 10.
All in all, we've had a generally happy marriage and family life, as a couple we get on really well (on the surface), and I believe this has rubbed off on the children as they are all kind, respectful and polite young people, to which we are really proud of.
Underneath our happy demeanour I feel that there are lots of problems (in my opinion anyway), I feel that I am growing further and further apart from him, I am not the same person that I was when I met him at 21, I am growing and evolving as a person, and I honestly feel so trapped. He is a whole decade older than me, and I really feel like it's starting to show now.
He is not a bad person, he works hard, is motivated and is a brilliant father but I just don't think he "gets" who I am anymore.
I struggle with my mental health quite badly, and to put it bluntly, he is completely useless about it all. I try opening up to him and try to be as transparent as I can, I often struggle with suicidal thoughts, and although it's really hard for me to be open about it (for feeling ashamed) I do try and tell him, but it's always met by silence, a shrug of the shoulders or a quick hug and him telling me not to be "so silly". I get that not everyone knows what to do in these circumstances or what to say, but considering he is a healthcare professional by trade, it always baffles me why he just doesn't seem to care. Last week, I had it out with him and asked him why my mental health doesn't seem to worry/bother him to which he replied that he simply lacks empathy and doesn't know how to react.
He's also very controlling about certain things, especially finances, and every decision regarding our family life is made by him, my ideas or opinions are completely irrelevant. I go to work and I pay my way, but still we are not equal in our financial decision-making. We're still renting after 15 years and I would love to buy a house, but he says no, and that's final!.
The biggest issue in our marriage (sorry it's TMI) is to do with our sex life, he is completely obsessed with anal sex even though I hate it, he expects it to happen every time that we have sex, sex can never just be "normal" it always has to be about getting anal at the end of it. I've told him a million times that I hate it and that it hurts, but he doesn't care, and even when I allow him to do it and I'm crying in pain, he doesn't see that it's a problem. This has been going on for years now but it's getting worse, he tries to use bribery in order to "get it" , especially financial bribery, and he will call me selfish for not agreeing to it. It's starting to really affect me mentally now, and I feel like a part of me dies each time I allow him to do "it", I feel degraded, abused even. I can't remember the last time that I had sex sober, and now it's got to the point where I absolutely have NO sex drive, the last few times we've had sex (normal sex) I feel NOTHING, it just makes me cringe and feel disgusted. I think his behaviour and attitude to sex has just destroyed what ever intimacy we had left. I have found myself fantasising about meeting other men and having sex, just so I can feel like a normal woman again, I'm still horny but not for my husband anymore.
I really can't see things getting any better, it's getting harder and harder to envisage a long-term future with him. I've reached a point where I see that so many things are wrong, I feel restricted, suffocated and repressed and I long for a freedom where I can get to know myself properly again.
It's so hard because like I said, he's not a bad person and I HATE the thought of our children having to endure a family breakup, as bad as I feel things are, I feel it's just NOT enough to put them through that. In my head I've told myself that I won't do anything until my youngest is at least 16 (that's 6 years away), and maybe, just maybe things may have improved by then 🤷🏼‍♀️.
I still care about him as a person (and love him as the father of my kids), even up until a few years ago I still got butterflies when I saw him and still felt so in love with him, but sadly that's all gone... I don't want to hurt him, unlike me, he hasn't got close friends or a family close by and it genuinely hurts me to think of him potentially alone, I wish I could just get a little tougher.
I'm thinking of his feelings and the children's before mine, and it's me that deep-down is suffering and feeling so incredibly isolated. It's hard to open up to people because on the surface we look like this happy couple who are the best of friends.

Please, some words of advice or just your thoughts would be really welcomed. I just need to know that I'm not going mad 😢.

OP posts:
FullMetalBitch · 13/10/2020 10:41

what a disgusting man. I would never allow anyone to stick anything "up there". Terrible just reading this.

You need to leave him and report him to the police.

wewereliars · 13/10/2020 12:12

I am so pleased that you've found your way out. But be very careful, what you describe sounds like tactics on his part, a man like him is very unlikely to give up so easily and you may be in danger. Take care

PeachyVee · 14/10/2020 10:46

Thanks everyone 😊.
Yesterday was a difficult day, I went to visit my parents with the intention of being able to have a good talk with them about my marriage break-up. I'm not particularly close to them, our relationship is quite strained and my mother is a classic narcissist, so I knew it wasn't going to be easy, it was in fact just awful. My parents completely sided with my husband, they clearly felt that I was over-reacting about everything , and just "giving up" too easily.
I wasn't planning on telling them about the sexual abuse (I didn't want to upset them with it) but in the end I was forced to just because they were being so difficult about the whole thing. To my utter disbelief, I had NO reaction from them when I told them that he had been anally raping me for years, they just looked at one another as if I was lying, and just became defensive of him again. They've always made me feel like I'm a disappointment to them, and that's how they made me feel yesterday. They suggested that I was going to ruin my kid's lives, that I would not cope as a single mum, and then my mum did what she always does -made it all about herself by bursting into tears and saying that this break-up was making her feel "beareaved". She is so pathetic.
I left, feeling absolutely broken, I sat in the car for about an hour and just sobbed. All of my positivity and focus had just crumbled away and left me feeling like the pathetic little disappointment that I've always been to them, I'm not going to lie, I actually felt suicidal.
I even considered just changing my mind and staying with my husband because it would be "easier", but luckily I talked myself out of that idea.
When I got home I was still really upset, and he ended up hugging me and then crying himself and begging me to change my mind and give things another go, which I really didn't need in that moment!.
Today, I still feel as upset, but definitely more focused. I cannot even express just how hurt I am about my parents' reaction, the fact that I told them about the sexual abuse and they did not even flinch!!.
I am seriously considering cutting ties with them as well as divorcing my husband. Their behaviour has contributed to my mental health problems just as much as my husband's.

OP posts:
leafeater · 14/10/2020 11:01

Oh Peachy, that's really rough. The people you need to have your back, be with you and most importantly believe you. I'm really sorry to hear that, but I'm glad your resolve is not gone.

Onwards and upwards, down the path for your new life Thanks

Reearry · 14/10/2020 11:26

@PeachyVee. You should cut contact with your parents and husband. They clearly don't support you emotionally and instead make your life worse. How can parents not support their child? I would be devastated if my child told me they had been abused! Instead they make it more miserable for you.... Just cut them off your life and don't look back. You don't want these kind of people in you and your children's lives.

Peridot1 · 14/10/2020 11:42

I have read many upsetting threads in relationships over 15 years on here and I have to say yours is one of the most upsetting.

No wonder you have issues with your mental health. Firstly as a result of your upbringing and previous relationship and now your marriage. You are so doing the right thing in ending it.

However I am a bit worried he seems to have agreed to it all so quickly. Please please be careful.

This is the most dangerous time. Leaving. I find it odd that he has just agreed to move out when he is so controlling about everything else.

Can you move out and rent with the children? Yes it will be hard but the feeling of freedom and strength you will get will be immeasurable.

And I think I would do it secretly. I’m really worried he agreed but now wants to try again. Really worried.

Your parents are despicable. That’s it. Despicable.

I know it’s hard to think about but a few posters mentioned concern about your daughter and why she would give him death stares. Please think about this. Talk to her.

And please keep posting here. There is always support and help. And it’s also great that you have friends to talk to and support you.

Reearry · 14/10/2020 12:17

@PeachyVee I second the oddness around your partner's behaviour. He seems to be reacting very strangely. Please do not mistake any show of comfort from your partner as genuine. No one with an ounce of empathy, compassion or basic decency would have treated you the way he did. He is a rapist and a sociopath. Please keep that at the forefront of your mind and leave and do not look back

raspberryfields · 14/10/2020 12:29

@PeachyVee

I am so sorry.

You are so brave. You should have people in your corner, in the form of your parents and husband and you don't. You deserve to have this. But you can't make your current relationships what they are not.

I agree, best to cut off your parents (who wants that around your kids?!) and split amicably with your husband and forge a new life with support from your friends. It sounds as if you have decent friends and that they have been looking on and hoping to get you out for a while based on your reports of your friend's abuse comment - try to lean on them rather than on other toxic relationships.

Hugs and best wishes

billybagpuss · 14/10/2020 15:03

I think the quicker you are able to start the rest of your life the better. Are you able to speed up either him moving out or getting separate housing.

As for your parents, you don’t need to do anything, don’t get in touch, it’s their loss, if they get in touch with you and are negative, you are in control, hang up and block for a while.

Bubbletrouble43 · 14/10/2020 15:08

Jesus, get out. Now. Your kids will survive. You are also important. Your life matters. Noone, NOONE should have to put up with anal rape. Fwiw you sound lovely, and I reckon your kids are who they are because of who you are. That will continue as a single mother.

Bubbletrouble43 · 14/10/2020 15:09

Sorry, was a trigger response to original post. Didn't rtft. I wish you all the luck in the world.

Skyla2005 · 14/10/2020 15:59

Oh my goodness it’s no wonder you have mental health problems with him as a husband any women would ! You need to divorce him

lynsey91 · 14/10/2020 16:35

He doesn't love you. Don't think for a second he does. No man who loves and cares for someone makes them do something they don't want to do.

Early on in our marriage DH suggested anal sex. I told him no way and the thought of it made me feel sick. He has never suggested it again

bigvig · 14/10/2020 18:27

I think he is being reasonable because he fears what might happen if he's not. He knows he could be sent to prison. The more confident he is that that's not going to happen the more nasty he'll become. I also think you need to speak to your daughter - just in case.

MrsBobDylan · 14/10/2020 18:30

Your parents are the reason you ended up in an abusive marriage. They abused you and you grew up believing that you were worthless.

They reacted badly to your admission because they know it is a sign that you (despite their best efforts) now believe you are worth more than being abused.

I would bin off the three shitty fuckers, grab your lovely kids and go get the life you deserve. You can do this.

SimplyRadishing · 14/10/2020 18:37

Jesus Christ. Your poor poor woman.

Your parents are utterly horrific (appropriate wording fails me but vile scummy individuals. A normal person wouldn't treat a stranger that way let alone their child) no wonder you ended up with the kind of husband you did.

You are amazing OP CakeFlowersBrew for you

Keep going - you can do this and things will only get better from here

CodenameVillanelle · 14/10/2020 18:38

You're so brave!
You're totally right that your parents have contributed to your MH issues as well as your H's abuse.
Has he left you alone since you told him about the split?

redastherose · 14/10/2020 23:38

Well done OP. Unfortunately, it is often true that people raised by abusive parents end up in abusive marriages. Get away from your husband (like pp's I would be cautious that he is being so accommodating it's not usual and most abusive husbands become more dangerous when they are being left) get counselling and if it's the right thing for you cut contact with your parents as well. Their reaction to your revealing your rape is appalling and shows a spectacular lack of love and concern for their daughter.

Weenurse · 16/10/2020 08:28

💐🍷☕️🍰
What ever you need to get you through the days ahead.

napody · 16/10/2020 08:41

@HollowTalk

He is raping you and bribing you. He's completely careless as to whether he's hurting you and, frankly I wonder whether your tears turn him on.

How are you not physically damaged by this? Seeing a doctor and telling them the truth might be the best thing to do.

This (and many other posts) give really good advice.

I am so sorry. I couldn't read to the end of your post, it was horrific and very upsetting. I really hope you can get out and heal from this situation.

Bubbletrouble43 · 16/10/2020 08:41

Rooting for you here op. And sending you courage and strength. X

napody · 16/10/2020 08:45

And I just read your update. Your parents reaction is horrific. Agree it's no coincidence you have ended up in this awful situation with that upbringing. You deserve so much better. I hope you find some comfort in your own strength which is clearly rising in you. Find your anger too.

Peridot1 · 16/10/2020 08:51

How are you doing PeachyVee?
(I haven’t tagged you in case a notification pops up on your phone)

I hope you are ok.

Giraffey1 · 16/10/2020 11:46

Sadly, from what you have said, the response from your parents was horrific but not surprising. You did the adult thing by going to see them and sharing what was happening in your life. They did the opposite: made it all about them, didn’t think about you, didn’t believe you and did the old routine where they blame you, you haven’t tried hard enough, he is a saint to put up with you blah blah blah.

You certainly don’t need a rapist husband in your life, do you really need two such vile people who are, on paper at least, parents? They don’t deserve you. If you can bear it, Iwould definitely cut contact.

Meanwhile, don’t be drawn back in by your H’s crocodile tears. He is probably hoping he can persuade you to stay so his nice cushy life can be restored. Don’t fall for it!

IJustWantSomeBees · 16/10/2020 18:27

You are so brave, Peachy Flowers

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