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A low point in marriage

190 replies

PeachyVee · 06/08/2020 01:37

Hi, I really need to offload and would appreciate some advice 😏. I've been with my husband for 15 years (married for 13), we have 3 wonderful kids aged 13, 11 and 10.
All in all, we've had a generally happy marriage and family life, as a couple we get on really well (on the surface), and I believe this has rubbed off on the children as they are all kind, respectful and polite young people, to which we are really proud of.
Underneath our happy demeanour I feel that there are lots of problems (in my opinion anyway), I feel that I am growing further and further apart from him, I am not the same person that I was when I met him at 21, I am growing and evolving as a person, and I honestly feel so trapped. He is a whole decade older than me, and I really feel like it's starting to show now.
He is not a bad person, he works hard, is motivated and is a brilliant father but I just don't think he "gets" who I am anymore.
I struggle with my mental health quite badly, and to put it bluntly, he is completely useless about it all. I try opening up to him and try to be as transparent as I can, I often struggle with suicidal thoughts, and although it's really hard for me to be open about it (for feeling ashamed) I do try and tell him, but it's always met by silence, a shrug of the shoulders or a quick hug and him telling me not to be "so silly". I get that not everyone knows what to do in these circumstances or what to say, but considering he is a healthcare professional by trade, it always baffles me why he just doesn't seem to care. Last week, I had it out with him and asked him why my mental health doesn't seem to worry/bother him to which he replied that he simply lacks empathy and doesn't know how to react.
He's also very controlling about certain things, especially finances, and every decision regarding our family life is made by him, my ideas or opinions are completely irrelevant. I go to work and I pay my way, but still we are not equal in our financial decision-making. We're still renting after 15 years and I would love to buy a house, but he says no, and that's final!.
The biggest issue in our marriage (sorry it's TMI) is to do with our sex life, he is completely obsessed with anal sex even though I hate it, he expects it to happen every time that we have sex, sex can never just be "normal" it always has to be about getting anal at the end of it. I've told him a million times that I hate it and that it hurts, but he doesn't care, and even when I allow him to do it and I'm crying in pain, he doesn't see that it's a problem. This has been going on for years now but it's getting worse, he tries to use bribery in order to "get it" , especially financial bribery, and he will call me selfish for not agreeing to it. It's starting to really affect me mentally now, and I feel like a part of me dies each time I allow him to do "it", I feel degraded, abused even. I can't remember the last time that I had sex sober, and now it's got to the point where I absolutely have NO sex drive, the last few times we've had sex (normal sex) I feel NOTHING, it just makes me cringe and feel disgusted. I think his behaviour and attitude to sex has just destroyed what ever intimacy we had left. I have found myself fantasising about meeting other men and having sex, just so I can feel like a normal woman again, I'm still horny but not for my husband anymore.
I really can't see things getting any better, it's getting harder and harder to envisage a long-term future with him. I've reached a point where I see that so many things are wrong, I feel restricted, suffocated and repressed and I long for a freedom where I can get to know myself properly again.
It's so hard because like I said, he's not a bad person and I HATE the thought of our children having to endure a family breakup, as bad as I feel things are, I feel it's just NOT enough to put them through that. In my head I've told myself that I won't do anything until my youngest is at least 16 (that's 6 years away), and maybe, just maybe things may have improved by then 🤷🏼‍♀️.
I still care about him as a person (and love him as the father of my kids), even up until a few years ago I still got butterflies when I saw him and still felt so in love with him, but sadly that's all gone... I don't want to hurt him, unlike me, he hasn't got close friends or a family close by and it genuinely hurts me to think of him potentially alone, I wish I could just get a little tougher.
I'm thinking of his feelings and the children's before mine, and it's me that deep-down is suffering and feeling so incredibly isolated. It's hard to open up to people because on the surface we look like this happy couple who are the best of friends.

Please, some words of advice or just your thoughts would be really welcomed. I just need to know that I'm not going mad 😢.

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workhomesleeprepeat · 07/08/2020 17:43

OP the dismissing of your mental health is terrible, I was going to tell you to leave based on that, but then I read on to see that he is a real live rapist.

Please have my very first LTB. He sounds absolutely horrible, a vile, controlling, rapist bully. He might try to make it difficult for you to divorce, but I do promise it will be worth it. You sound lovely and deserve a happy life free from abuse xx

SusieOwl4 · 07/08/2020 20:23

Read your own post and transport yourself to the future and it’s your daughter that is telling you what is happening to her . What would you be saying to her ?

Glad you are getting help . This is my very first LTB .

FifteenToes · 07/08/2020 23:07

Yep, my first LTB too. For what it's worth, I'm a man and have argued in the past that people here are much too quick on the trigger, one-sided and too quick to shout "LTB!" as a simplistic solution.

But this is horrendous. It's one of the most disturbing posts I've read on this board. I wonder whether your husband is a genuine psychopath.

Vodkacranberryplease · 07/08/2020 23:15

@FifteenToes But this is horrendous. It's one of the most disturbing posts I've read on this board. I wonder whether your husband is a genuine psychopath.

You are not wrong. He absolutely is and it's dangerous to be around him as he literally doesn't care about the damage he does.

neonjumper · 07/08/2020 23:28

@shadypines

This is one of the most upsetting posts I've read on MN.
Absolutely this ... it's heartbreaking reading you have been repeatedly anally raped .
BuffaloMozzerella · 07/08/2020 23:30

I imagine he will not let you leave easily. You need to get copies of all financial docs - payslips, pension, bank statements, etc. Put your and the kids passports somewhere safe.

I'm so sorry you're going through this. You are incredibly brave just writing all this down here Thanks

Bbub · 07/08/2020 23:33

Well done for contacting the rape support people (forgot what you called them sorry Confused) . I'm so pleased for you. I hope you can get a lot of support from your RL friends too, and posting here will get you lots of helpful ongoing support too or just post for a rant. We are all rooting for you I promise x

billy1966 · 07/08/2020 23:38

OP,
Heart breaking to read your posts.

He is an absolute horror.

Your mental health is of course affected by being repeatedly anally raped by your husband.

He is a rapist.
He is a criminal.

I wouldn't want him near my children.

Well done for contacting Rape Crisis.
Women's Aid could also help.

Please get any financial information, pay slips etc. If you can.

You don't own your home so hopefully things will be easier.

He is a very, very bad man.

He should be jailed for a long time for his crimes against you.

You deserve to be free.

Your daughter's death stares means she knows more than you realise.

Is she safe around him?

A man that would anally rape his crying wife is capable on ANYTHING.

Could he have touch your daughter?

I would be wanting to know exactly what her death stares mean.

Flowers
MissSmith80 · 07/08/2020 23:39

Sending you strength and as a HCP, it terrifies me (for the patients we treat) that this could be a colleague of mine. So please, when you have dealt with what you need to for you, please consider reporting him to his professional body for them to consider.
Thanks x

MissSmith80 · 07/08/2020 23:42

I should clarify - please go to the Police, then any criminal case will be considered as part of his registration (assuming he is a registered HCP) but if you decide not to do that, please raise your concerns x

Bellabluea · 07/08/2020 23:45

My situation wasn’t anywhere near as abusive but I was married for 15 years and he constantly pestered me for sex and occasionally would do it when he knew I didn’t want to because I would freeze and not say no. He also ‘parented’ me in some respects in that he would take control of finances and treat me like a child. To the point that I’m afraid to say I started behaving as such and overspending because I was rebelling over being controlled.
Anyway, this is not about me. I just wanted to say as someone who has come out the other side and is lying in my giant bed ALONE - you can do it and you will thrive!! I absolutely love being in control of my own life and I’m actually pretty good at it Smile.
It’s been almost 2 years now and it’s been tough. Telling the kids was so difficult but they got used to it quickly and it’s actually pretty amicable between us.
You are stronger than you know and you deserve to be happy!!

OhYeahYouSuck · 08/08/2020 00:06

Have a you posted about him before? This sounds familiar.

Regretsy · 08/08/2020 02:13

Obviously LTB. He should be in jail. In your first post you say you don’t want to upset him (paraphrasing) but he is willingly upsetting you, and much worse. This is the kind of thing men do to women who abduct them and keep them in a basement, not a supposedly loving husband. Get the hell out and if you can, tell the police and his workplace. He sounds like Fred West.

Greyblueeyes · 08/08/2020 03:00

Oh god, this is not ok. I cringed when I read that he couldn't feel empathy for you when you were pouring out your heart about suicidal thoughts.

Your mental health will probably massively improve by leaving him. Don't wait 6 more years. By that time, you will be a shell of yourself.

Everyonetakeiteasy · 08/08/2020 03:39

@FifteenToes

Yep, my first LTB too. For what it's worth, I'm a man and have argued in the past that people here are much too quick on the trigger, one-sided and too quick to shout "LTB!" as a simplistic solution.

But this is horrendous. It's one of the most disturbing posts I've read on this board. I wonder whether your husband is a genuine psychopath.

Exactly this...

This is absolutely horrific. You don't deserve to live like this. It made me want to cry when I read it. I feel it's one of those rare posts where you wish you could fast forward to the happy end where the OP updates everyone and say they're free, happy, and husband s workplace has been told about his workplace demeanour too.

He truly sounds like a sociopath..

Get out.. Get (more) support ASAP and never ever allow him to do those things to you. Say no. Call the police. Do what you need to do. Get out.

You will soon be free and happy. One evening with a cup of tea or drink, with a smile on your face knowing this is over

Get out 🌹🌹🌹

katy1213 · 08/08/2020 05:15

This is truly awful. There is nothing wrong with your mental health that wouldn't be cured by getting this rapist out of your life. Nobody should have to live like this. Please contact women's aid for some practical advice. Given his profession, a firm threat of legal action might be enough to make him slink away. Marital rape is a crime.

Gobbycop · 08/08/2020 13:16

Every now and then a thread appears here which is utterly chilling.

This is one.

It's already been covered about what he is and what he's doing you don't need to hear it again.
I hope you're okay and have spoken to police.

Whatisthis4 · 08/08/2020 23:04

Well done op you're so strong. I'm so sorry you had to live through this. Wishing you swift escape from this monster.

Your daughter's reactions are very concerning. It may be that shes picking up on how he treats you. I dont want to make assumptions here but youre dealing with a horrific man - is there a possibility it might be a response to ways he potentially treats her also..?

Good luck, hope you get to safety soon.

PeachyVee · 12/10/2020 20:33

Ghvtv

OP posts:
PeachyVee · 12/10/2020 20:44

Hi guys, I wanted to update you all on my "situation"....
My original post was the catalyst for huge changes, it really was a turning point. All of your comments and support have been hugely appreciated and I have drawn on each and every single one of them for guidance and wisdom over these past few months.
I have read my original post and all of the comments over and over again, and believe me, it has kept me strong and focused.
I have now ENDED our marriage, my husband has NOT tried to deny any of his wrong-doings, he is fully aware and accepting of his behaviour being completely wrong and intolerable, but he knows that it is all too little too late.
We are still currently living together, but he is planning to move out in the next few months. Our children do not know yet, but our families and close friends do. We are planning on telling the children in the next few weeks, which I am dreading but hoping that they will take it as well as they can do.
We are being amicable, although it is awkward.
He's promised to fully support me financially and with equal care of the children. We've already discussed divorce and we want it done ASAP .
I am feeling a mixture of emotions right now -relief, sadness and excitement mostly.
I am proud of my strength, although it's been hard, and I am glad that I listened to my intuition .
It would have been our 13th wedding anniversary tomorrow, I feel sad, but I'll keep busy.
Thankyou all so much again, I could not have done this without your support and honesty ♥️.

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AudTheDeepMinded · 12/10/2020 20:50

WELL DONE you awesome woman. Hope you have engaged a SHL and not just trusting him that he will honour his promises re divorce.

Iloveme30 · 12/10/2020 20:53

@Onthemaintrunkline

Get out, get out, get out. Go and don’t look back. This mans a monster.
This
Aminuts23 · 12/10/2020 21:12

That’s a great update OP. Well done you. I just read your thread and he is the most disgusting abusive animal I’ve read about on here. I sincerely hope you can continue to be amicable about your separation and be successful co-parents Flowers

31133004Taff · 12/10/2020 21:18

Stay strong. Remain focused Star

Totickleamockingbird · 12/10/2020 21:30

Do not give him 50/50 or any such thing at all until you figure out why your daughter gives him death stares.

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