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Found out fiancé has been cheating on me with prostitutes through most of our relationship. Absolutely devastated!

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 12:56

I thought my relationship was solid F(29) M(31). We had a healthy and incredibly happy relationship. We rarely argued and when we did we would be able to communicate effectively in order to get past it.

We were best friends we would frequently stay up talking into the small hours on a Friday night because we loved each other’s company so much.

My fiancé was the most loving dedicated men id ever met. Told me I was beautiful and he loved me 20x a day. Always tactile and hugging me. We were supposed to be getting married (if cornona would allow) in August.

The only issue was the sex which I tried to fix continuously. We had a good sex life at the beginning it was very passionate and the most exciting I’d experienced initially but it kept decreasing. It went down to once every 2 weeks. (I have a very high sex drive so this wasn’t good)

I always tried to engage in communication about our sex life. It was such a shame how much it had decreased. I have always been a bit of a sexually submissive and had wanted to tell him.

But my attempted communication about sex was always shut down. I was fobbed off and told that he had a low drive and wasn’t that into sex.

I was told that he was faking it at the beginning to please me but that he couldn’t keep it up. I felt like he thought I was an over-sexed pervert.

When I tried to initiate sex I was turned down. When we did have sex he would loose his erection. I bought his excuse hook line and sinker.

A few days ago I was on his phone searching for an email from the company who are providing the decorations for our wedding and I came across an email from the website adult work.

When I opened it up it said ‘this email is not spam you have received it because you have an active account on adult work.com’. I googled it and it was a prostitution website. My heart stopped. My world collapsed at that moment.

I tried to sign in and got his password resent to the email so I could. When I logged in I went into his bookings and saw that he had booked prostitutes.

My fiancé was having a nap so I woke him up and asked him to come into the living room. I showed him what I had found. His face said it all!

He admitted to paying for sex around every two months. He said it had started about 7 months into our relationship and the last time was February this year! I threw him out immediately. The hurt, pain and shock was too much to bare.

Since then and me calming down somewhat he has come round to speak to me about it and answer all of my questions (I have many!). I would say we’ve spoken for at least 40 hours combined.

He said after he’d fallen in love with me he couldn’t see me sexually. He said it was like a switch had turned off and I entered into the not sexual category alongside his mum and sisters.

He said he has been introduced to prostitutes about the age of 19 by older men he new who would take him to brothels after nights out. He said initially he felt uncomfortable but they normalised it to him. He then started paying for sex on his own and had done this all through his 20s (he’s 31 now).

He claimed to only have paid for sex while with me because he wanted to have sex with me but couldn’t. I thought ‘what a load of shit’ but when I logged into adult work and looked at the women. They all looked like me. One frighteningly so much she could be me!

Why would he pay for sex with someone who looks like me rather than actually having sex with me? My confusion grew.

He said he couldn’t. His body and mind wouldn’t allow him to. He said I was his princess and he couldn’t think of me sexually in his mind.

I asked him what he liked sexually. He admitted to liking a power dynamic. Ironically the same power dynamic I like but had always felt I wasn’t allowed to bring up.

He said the power dynamic made him feel like he was abusing me or degrading me and that I was his angel that he couldn’t do that to me. He told me he had put me on a pedestal and that he wouldn’t even allow himself to think of me that way.

I have always been uncomfortable with prostitution (my own personal belief) but I feel there is a lot of exploitation. The idea of him doing degrading things to women he paid made me feel sick and made him seem like a monster.

I told him this he cried and said he was a monster and that the only reason he could do it was because he’d dehumanised the women.

He told me the act of buying sex he had compartmentalised. As if it wasn’t real. He told me he almost saw it as a virtual reality world. But that deep down he understood the severity of his actions as the guilt was heavy. (But as I pointed out not enough guilt to confess or stop.)

Since we spoke about sex and what he liked and what I liked (we probably spoke for 4 hours). He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me but is obviously respectful and hasn’t pressured. After the conversation his body did seem to be working again. I saw he had an erection and that is something he hadn’t been able to get with me for some time.

The day I found out he phoned all his friends and family and told them what he’d done. One of his sisters has disowned him. He rang our church and told them what he’d done and asked them to help me as I was distraught.

He was also inconsolable so one of the pastors ended up staying on the phone to him for about an hour. The church then contacted me and offered their support.

He has started therapy. And he phones me up or comes round to visit to tell me what was discussed and what insight it has given him into his actions.

He apologises continuously. He has assured me it was nothing to do with me and that I am perfect (to which I always reply no one is perfect’). But human nature is to feel inadequate now which is what I do feel.

I feel like him paying for it over me shows how undesirable I was. But then he keeps reminding me of the women he choose and how they resembled me.

He says I couldn’t have done anymore and that it’s nothing to do with me and that it was his own emotional issues and his own choice to be unfaithful.

He cries and says he will never forgive himself for the betrayal but also for exploiting the women he paid for. He has said that he will support me whatever I want. That he wants to try again and stay together but that he understands the severity of what he’s done and understands that I may never want him back.

It’s all very overwhelming and I am going through such a roller coaster of emotion I don’t know what I want and am not going to rush my decision.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the infidelity? What they would do? Or what they got from what I’ve written?

OP posts:
MsTSwift · 02/06/2020 20:50

If you believe in god (or the goddess) they enabled you to find this information before you married and had children. Act on it!

OnceUponAMidnightBeery · 02/06/2020 20:53

@MsTSwift

If you believe in god (or the goddess) they enabled you to find this information before you married and had children. Act on it!
This. With bells on.
runningon · 02/06/2020 23:09

I have no words.

How can you bear to look at him and to listen to his disgusting version of events?
Its time to leave.

Why would you want this to be your life?

Have love and respect for yourself and leave.

Don't look back and I hope one day you will having a happy and loving relationship with a good man you can trust.

Interestedwoman · 02/06/2020 23:32

Mumoblue yes this is the biggest pain for me that he viewed women as objects he could purchase it makes me feel sick!

Then you cannot love him anymore. He disgusts you. The person you thought you loved did not exist. Many of us have had the experience of realizing we were deceived about a person's nature.

As everyone's said, lucky you found out before you married or had children. Flowers Flowers Flowers

user1481840227 · 02/06/2020 23:36

Elvis was like this.
He wouldn't sleep with Priscilla after she became a mother......he had loads of 'love affairs' but I don't think he really slept with any of them! I think he could only sleep with virgins.

Priscilla said in her book that when he found out she was leaving him for another man that he raped her. She didn't use the word rape but that is how it was described.

These men are seriously fucked up. Their issues are very complex...and if you stayed with him you'd run the risk of trying to be understanding and caring and feeling sorry for him...instead of dealing with your own pain because of this.

SandyY2K · 02/06/2020 23:39

I often wonder how and why ppl even consider forgiving and staying in a relationship after such infidelity.

Cheating with prostitutes, putting your sexual health at risk and refusing to have sex with you ..... marrying him would be a very unwise decision to put it mildly.

You may not think it, but you're lucky you found out before having kids...as now you can end this relationship and never have to see him again.

indecisivelil · 02/06/2020 23:43

In relationships there are issues that can be fixed and issues that you must run away very fast from. This is one of them. It's not your job to fix this guy. You've found out he uses prostitutes. Next you'll be finding out he's raped or murdered some poor girl. These types that can only get aroused by abusing women, need more and more depraved acts to get their fix. No matter how much you tell him he is disgusting, if you accept his behaviour and enter into this sham of a marriage he will see it as you, on some level, condoning what he does. It won't give him the kick it once did because it's been exposed and and given the ok so he'll have to step up his depravity in some way and it will all get a lot worse not better. Walk away now

user1481840227 · 03/06/2020 00:02

Completely agree with the pp...and this bit from your OP seems so sinister to me.

Since we spoke about sex and what he liked and what I liked (we probably spoke for 4 hours). He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me but is obviously respectful and hasn’t pressured. After the conversation his body did seem to be working again. I saw he had an erection and that is something he hadn’t been able to get with me for some time.

A 4 hour conversation doesn't undo whatever weird stuff is going on in his head. That erection was caused by something else.

DarkNightDelight · 03/06/2020 01:21

He knew it was wrong but still did it anyway.

He knew it would break you but still did it anyway.

Why stay with a cheater who doesn't want to fuck/make love to you?

Ellisandra · 03/06/2020 02:16

All that telling everyone and berating himself and begging forgiveness... it’s just manipulation. So you’ll feel guilty. His pastor will think he’s great for confessing his sins and - as he has done - the pastor will “offer you support”. To stay, right?
He’s trying to force you to stay.
Tell him to piss off.

Hanab · 03/06/2020 02:41

Run! Don’t look back.. you will never be at peace with him .. he has been sleeping with these women

Hanab · 03/06/2020 02:42

Oops! These women for years .. I highly doubt he can have an ah ha moment and change!

NotNowPlzz · 03/06/2020 02:49

You sound like you are both very good at talking things through. I wouldn't get back with him but I'd stay his friend and watch to see if he keeps up with the therapy and changes as a person. I do believe people can change. I believe in the power of God's redemption if people are truly sincere in taking it. I'd watch and see, but emotionally detach romantically.

RAOK · 03/06/2020 03:02

He is truly awful. If you hadn’t stumbled upon the evidence he would continue doing this forever.

I would ring your GP surgery and explain the situation. The sexual health nurses at the hospital or clinics are lovely. They will ask you a few questions for their records. You have a swab which you do yourself in the toilet cubicle but you will also need a blood test as some of the STIs are tested that way. You will need a test for all STIs. They might advise you to come back in a couple of months to be retested just for extra peace of mind as some have a longer incubation period.

Do you have supportive friends and family? Once you’ve got rid of him, you can get on with your life and never ever look back. You will be safer and in time you will meet someone who makes you truly happy. You can look forward to a healthy and fulfilling relationship including regular and amazing sex. I’m rooting for you!

managedmis · 03/06/2020 03:28

He sounds extremely confused about women, that's for sure!

As the first poster said it, walk away

Don't try and 'fix' him, you can't

managedmis · 03/06/2020 03:29

Told me I was beautiful and he loved me 20x a day.

^

Yeah. This is another red flag

NoHardSell · 03/06/2020 04:22

No need for me to repeat everything. I'm really sorry. Thank goodness you found out now!

Sexual health clinics are open, even if it is by phone with kits posted out. No need to spend £££

Do read up about hysterical bonding. I'm wondering from your posts about being submissive and him feeling turned on if he is going to try and twist this and have sex with you as a weird way of convincing you he is redeemed

Beware your church and any other 'flying monkeys' in case he recruits them to persuade you to marry the sinner and forgive him etc. That would not be placing your interests first. Hopefully that won't happen and they will support you in leaving him

Shoxfordian · 03/06/2020 06:27

Don't marry him, or take him back
You could never trust him again

Aussiebean · 03/06/2020 06:58

You need to contact and talking to him about HIS ‘recovery’.

That’s his journey.

You journey is to grieve the fiancé you thought you had, the relationship you thought you were in and the future you thought you were working towards.

Both journeys need to be done along.

Aussiebean · 03/06/2020 06:58

Cut contact.

Pebblexox · 03/06/2020 07:20

The only thing that can really be said is, run. Run far far away, and don't look back.
This kind of behaviour very rarely changes, so matter how much they insist it will. If you were to go on and marry him, could you really live the rest of your life with that in the back of your mind? Knowing that he's very good at keeping things from you, knowing his preferences?
I'm so sorry, but be glad you found out now rather than later.
You can get past this, but you have to do it without him.
Also to clarify. You have done nothing wrong, and there is nothing wrong with you. I know often times women blame themselves for a mans faults, I know I have in the past. But this is all on him!

Pebblexox · 03/06/2020 07:22

All that telling everyone and berating himself and begging forgiveness... it’s just manipulation. So you’ll feel guilty. His pastor will think he’s great for confessing his sins and - as he has done - the pastor will “offer you support”. To stay, right?
He’s trying to force you to stay.
Tell him to piss off.

^^
This. All of this.

MsTSwift · 03/06/2020 07:25

Do you think if op had done something equally hideous (although hard to imagine the female equivalent of what this charmer has done) the dh and the church would be Urging the dh to stick by her? Just a thought. Sadly I think she would be dropped by both like a hot potato.

SomeonesRealName · 03/06/2020 07:44

OP someone's already recommended the website www.chumplady.com I'd like to second that - it's not everyone's cup of tea but it really helped me maintain the righteous anger and indignation I needed to end my relationship and stick to my guns - along with counselling, lovely mumsnetters, reading about narcissism and telling everyone about the shitty things my ex had done!

There are quite a few Chumplady pieces on "Jesus cheaters" and confessing all to the church in a bid to manipulate the gf or wife into taking them back seems to be a common tactic. 🤢

www.chumplady.com/category/jesus-cheaters/

There's also www.divorceminister.com/en/ if you are religious you might find it helpful.

GilbertMarkham · 03/06/2020 08:12

*All that telling everyone and berating himself and begging forgiveness... it’s just manipulation. So you’ll feel guilty. His pastor will think he’s great for confessing his sins and - as he has done - the pastor will “offer you support”. To stay, right?
He’s trying to force you to stay."

This, and the miraculous (no pun intended) way he said he got over his "issue" and was ready to have sex with you after you talked.

Do he couldn't get past his issue from a fee months into your relationship until now .. but suddenly could after a talk.

It would have been a performance aimed at persuading you to continue the relationship.

Less face it, he can confess all he likes, bring his pastor/the church into it, says he's remorseful, say he now recognised he's exploited vulnerable sex workers (even though he still gets an erection talking about it), says he's devastated/inconsolable etc. (The gall of him with what he's done to you!) Etc etc but he knows he's in really deep shit here. Your family, your community, everyone may find out about this. Even if both your families and the church cover it up for him (which they shouldn't) people will wonder what on earth had happened to your engagement and planned wedding (when weddings are happening again obviously). I'm sure he knows it is likely to leak out (why it ended) too. He looks like what he is. .. a scumbag, a degenerate, a liar. He is highly motivated to avoid that and minimise everything he can.
You continuing the relationship and you and your family cooperating with hushing it all up is the best outcome he can hope for and he's going to keep trying it while he thinks he has any chance at all.