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Found out fiancé has been cheating on me with prostitutes through most of our relationship. Absolutely devastated!

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 12:56

I thought my relationship was solid F(29) M(31). We had a healthy and incredibly happy relationship. We rarely argued and when we did we would be able to communicate effectively in order to get past it.

We were best friends we would frequently stay up talking into the small hours on a Friday night because we loved each other’s company so much.

My fiancé was the most loving dedicated men id ever met. Told me I was beautiful and he loved me 20x a day. Always tactile and hugging me. We were supposed to be getting married (if cornona would allow) in August.

The only issue was the sex which I tried to fix continuously. We had a good sex life at the beginning it was very passionate and the most exciting I’d experienced initially but it kept decreasing. It went down to once every 2 weeks. (I have a very high sex drive so this wasn’t good)

I always tried to engage in communication about our sex life. It was such a shame how much it had decreased. I have always been a bit of a sexually submissive and had wanted to tell him.

But my attempted communication about sex was always shut down. I was fobbed off and told that he had a low drive and wasn’t that into sex.

I was told that he was faking it at the beginning to please me but that he couldn’t keep it up. I felt like he thought I was an over-sexed pervert.

When I tried to initiate sex I was turned down. When we did have sex he would loose his erection. I bought his excuse hook line and sinker.

A few days ago I was on his phone searching for an email from the company who are providing the decorations for our wedding and I came across an email from the website adult work.

When I opened it up it said ‘this email is not spam you have received it because you have an active account on adult work.com’. I googled it and it was a prostitution website. My heart stopped. My world collapsed at that moment.

I tried to sign in and got his password resent to the email so I could. When I logged in I went into his bookings and saw that he had booked prostitutes.

My fiancé was having a nap so I woke him up and asked him to come into the living room. I showed him what I had found. His face said it all!

He admitted to paying for sex around every two months. He said it had started about 7 months into our relationship and the last time was February this year! I threw him out immediately. The hurt, pain and shock was too much to bare.

Since then and me calming down somewhat he has come round to speak to me about it and answer all of my questions (I have many!). I would say we’ve spoken for at least 40 hours combined.

He said after he’d fallen in love with me he couldn’t see me sexually. He said it was like a switch had turned off and I entered into the not sexual category alongside his mum and sisters.

He said he has been introduced to prostitutes about the age of 19 by older men he new who would take him to brothels after nights out. He said initially he felt uncomfortable but they normalised it to him. He then started paying for sex on his own and had done this all through his 20s (he’s 31 now).

He claimed to only have paid for sex while with me because he wanted to have sex with me but couldn’t. I thought ‘what a load of shit’ but when I logged into adult work and looked at the women. They all looked like me. One frighteningly so much she could be me!

Why would he pay for sex with someone who looks like me rather than actually having sex with me? My confusion grew.

He said he couldn’t. His body and mind wouldn’t allow him to. He said I was his princess and he couldn’t think of me sexually in his mind.

I asked him what he liked sexually. He admitted to liking a power dynamic. Ironically the same power dynamic I like but had always felt I wasn’t allowed to bring up.

He said the power dynamic made him feel like he was abusing me or degrading me and that I was his angel that he couldn’t do that to me. He told me he had put me on a pedestal and that he wouldn’t even allow himself to think of me that way.

I have always been uncomfortable with prostitution (my own personal belief) but I feel there is a lot of exploitation. The idea of him doing degrading things to women he paid made me feel sick and made him seem like a monster.

I told him this he cried and said he was a monster and that the only reason he could do it was because he’d dehumanised the women.

He told me the act of buying sex he had compartmentalised. As if it wasn’t real. He told me he almost saw it as a virtual reality world. But that deep down he understood the severity of his actions as the guilt was heavy. (But as I pointed out not enough guilt to confess or stop.)

Since we spoke about sex and what he liked and what I liked (we probably spoke for 4 hours). He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me but is obviously respectful and hasn’t pressured. After the conversation his body did seem to be working again. I saw he had an erection and that is something he hadn’t been able to get with me for some time.

The day I found out he phoned all his friends and family and told them what he’d done. One of his sisters has disowned him. He rang our church and told them what he’d done and asked them to help me as I was distraught.

He was also inconsolable so one of the pastors ended up staying on the phone to him for about an hour. The church then contacted me and offered their support.

He has started therapy. And he phones me up or comes round to visit to tell me what was discussed and what insight it has given him into his actions.

He apologises continuously. He has assured me it was nothing to do with me and that I am perfect (to which I always reply no one is perfect’). But human nature is to feel inadequate now which is what I do feel.

I feel like him paying for it over me shows how undesirable I was. But then he keeps reminding me of the women he choose and how they resembled me.

He says I couldn’t have done anymore and that it’s nothing to do with me and that it was his own emotional issues and his own choice to be unfaithful.

He cries and says he will never forgive himself for the betrayal but also for exploiting the women he paid for. He has said that he will support me whatever I want. That he wants to try again and stay together but that he understands the severity of what he’s done and understands that I may never want him back.

It’s all very overwhelming and I am going through such a roller coaster of emotion I don’t know what I want and am not going to rush my decision.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the infidelity? What they would do? Or what they got from what I’ve written?

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BarbedBloom · 02/06/2020 18:39

I would be done. The madonna whore complex would be almost a big an issue for me as the prostitutes, especially if I could potentially have daughters with him. Men like this are seriously messed up sexually.

GilbertMarkham · 02/06/2020 18:42

He knows what he's like - he's tried the normal relationship and sex life thing and it doesn't work for him. After a few months he was back on looking up and using prostitutes. He's likely done this through every relationship he's ever tried.

If he's from a religious family or background, as is suggested by him contacting his pastor; he's actually a bit older to be settling down. Most Christians I know settled in their twenties, and early twenties at that.
Perhaps he's preferred to not settle until the whole marriage, family, conform pressure became string because he knows what he's like, he wanted to pursue his lifestyle without the inconvenience and risk of discovery by a wife or serious partner (as had happened here) ... or perhaps he's had steady partners and theyve found out or ended it because the sex life was weird/became nearly non existent.

MistressGammon · 02/06/2020 18:45

Imagine standing there on your wedding day in front of all your family and friends and them all knowing what he has done and feeling sorry for you instead of happy. You deserve so much better. Flowers

Katjolo · 02/06/2020 18:46

Walk away and don't look back.

Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 19:12

Thank you so much everyone amazing advice 💖

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 19:13

MistressGammon that’s exactly what’s been going through my head recently.

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 19:14

Thank you Cuppaza yes its hard to read but the truth very often is hard to hear.

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 19:15

GilbertMarkham yes I’ve asked this and he’s denied constantly but maybe he does like that power dynamic. Would make sense

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Iamuhtredsonofuhtred · 02/06/2020 19:16

He is so messed up I can’t even

Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 19:20

RainMustFall yes I did have second thoughts and as it was getting nearer to the wedding more reservations. However, I had held it at bay thinking that everything else was good so it was something we cooked maybe work on.

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 19:22

Mumoblue yes this is the biggest pain for me that he viewed women as objects he could purchase it makes me feel sick!

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Bunnymumy · 02/06/2020 19:41

I hope you have been able to get somewhere away from him and block all contact?

Because right it sounds like he is in the mode of bombarding you so that you dont get headspace to think. Aiming to frazzle your brain all so he can steamroller you to taking him back.

He'll probably give you some shit about wanting couples counciling or how he will go to therapy but needs you by his side to help him through. All part of the con. Therapy doesn't cure twisted. And you should never do counciling with a partner who has proved they are a liar and a manipulator.

Or maybe he will try emotional manipulating. Eg: talking about his fragile mental state and indicating thoughts of suicide. All 'me me me'. As if he is the indured party.

Keep away. No one deserves to be with a maniac.

backseatcookers · 02/06/2020 19:54

He's an outright misogynist who sees sex as for men only. Your enjoyment of sex he saw as dirty, because you had to be pure and on a pedestal. But he was happy to go to sex workers because he doesn't see them as human.

This is so perfectly put.

End it.

Get an STI test.

Do NOT marry him.

Do NOT give in to hysterical bonding and let him talk you round and sleep with you as some awful way of him rewarding you for staying with him - I'm worried he may try this.

Do NOT get pregnant.

You're young, smart, nice and I'm sure attractive - you have your entire life to enjoy without this woman-hating fool holding you back and dragging you down.

If you had a baby with him he would never have sex with you again because the madonna / whore complex (do read up on this) would be amplified in his mind.

Men like him hate women. They say they love a few women but they don't, not really. They enjoy the purpose women serve them. Their nice partner serves to make them look good and upstanding, their mother serves to put them on a pedestal from a young age, women they sleep with exist for them to degrade on the man's terms and at the man's desired price.

You would be mad to consider staying with him and I'm so pleased I think you see that now?

He is fucking disgusting.

Please, please leave him.

wizzbangfizz · 02/06/2020 20:06

And agree I think it's sickening that he justified to himself that because they looked like you it was ok - beyond revolting. Good luck for the future OP - getting rid of this toad will ensure you don't need as much of it. Thanks

carly2803 · 02/06/2020 20:09

donot even think about giving him another chance!

he is sorry because he got caught. This will be your life for the next 50 odd years. With kids.

Do you really want to stay with him, knowing hes shagging about, probably giving you STD's, cheating on your kids, and then you finally break up your family?

no, leave. No, run. fucking run

3rdNamechange · 02/06/2020 20:19

Sorry to be blunt , what a load of bullshit. He's crying because he's been hurt mad everyone knows what he is. The lines he's coming out with , are they from a book on 'how to say sorry and look like you mean it ' ?
Sorry.

HazelBite · 02/06/2020 20:21

OP if I could scream on here I would. Do NOT entertain any idea of/being with him.
My first marriage in my early 20's was a disaster with the sex dwindling to nothing, his wish for prostitutes practically removed any self worth that I had.
Run very fast the other way, don't even try to get your head round what he says/thinks/wants its not your problem it is his.
It will never be solved, and will ultimately mess with your head big time.
He is a waste of effort no matter how close you are otherwise, it will never be right.
Do yourself a favour and rip off the plaster now however painful it may be initially.
Look after yourself Flowers

PanamaPattie · 02/06/2020 20:21

Red flags all over this one.

Love bombing
Madonna/Whore
Prostitutes
Church

Get away from this awful person. Don’t let anyone tell you to stay.

Good luck.

backseatcookers · 02/06/2020 20:22

Oh and if you feel yourself wavering then think about whether you want your future children to have this misogynist man as a father?

If you have girls do you want their dad to be someone you know thinks women are either homemakers or only good for sex?

If you have boys do you want their dad to be someone who will encourage them to treat women badly and teach them it's not only acceptable but normal?

Leave and you can meet someone who will be a loving, brilliant father to your future children Thanks

Closetbeanmuncher · 02/06/2020 20:28

He said I was his princess

Exorcist moment in 3....2....1

He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me

And as if by magic the imaginary blockage and years of only being able to get it up for hookers is removed!!

Please.....

I will tell you straight OP, hes a nutjob with a raging Madonna whore complex and some severe mommy issues to boot.

Run for the hills and get tested for STDs...this is cat D if I ever saw it.

Weejo39 · 02/06/2020 20:30

Same happened to me, engaged, adultwork and found over 10 yrs worth of evidence of a long standing habit. Despite my organising counselling for him, he continued. End of. It'll never stop and you deserve better. Don't look for excuses, reasons why or ways in which to fix him. End it for good. Flowers

Mintypylonsfryingsurplus · 02/06/2020 20:32

I really feel for you, but you are still so young.
I married someone I thought was my best friend and then found out after 7 years he was leading a double life with prostitutes/ sexting/ webcams/ hook up sites/ porn it destroyed my mental health and I ended up with genital warts.
At first it explained our awful sex life which I had nagged him about for years (was ok at first but then finished abruptly)
Please please run.
You will be in shock, deep shock. Thats ok. The man you believed you knew so well and love so much is not the man you thought.
I was a respectable cover.
Please find someone in real life you can talk too as you have some painful times ahead. Confusion and you will be very vulnerable to getting talked back into 'staying/forgiving/making it work)
Go no contact, do not engage.
He has made his choices, risked your sexual health and misled you to his true character.
You need to heal. Do not do pick me dance, none of this is on you. A normal healthy partner would desire and want only you. You deserve so much better.
In time you will look back at this and him and shudder with relief that you escaped.
Be strong.
Prostitutes as you know are some of the most vulnerable women in society.
If you think of him fondly with love you need to think of him paying a vulnerable woman and then lying to you. Keep his wrong deeds in your mind when you think of him because that is who he really is. Flowers

Dery · 02/06/2020 20:40

"I would be done. The madonna whore complex would be almost a big an issue for me as the prostitutes, especially if I could potentially have daughters with him. Men like this are seriously messed up sexually."

This (in addition to what the other PP have said). This in itself would be enough to bring the relationship to a halt for me. That is deeply nasty woman-hating bullshit - he's basically saying 'decent' women should not have a sex drive; and he would regard any woman he can have sex with as not 'decent' - he dehumanises women he has sex with. Seriously, that is deeply sick. At some level, I pity him because this kind of thinking was taught to him by a person or people with significant influence in his life when he was young. Is he from a very patriarchal family or culture? Ignore the question: it's not your problem - instead of recognising how nasty his thinking is, he's chosen to feed it. That's what makes him irredeemable.

Thank goodness you found out before you were married and/or pregnant by him. Dump him and NEVER let him back.

Btw - a serious relationship problem will NEVER be fixed by marriage. It won't. It might get fixed despite you being married but in all likelihood it will get worse - once you were legally bound to this guy through marriage, it would be much harder for you to walk away and he would have considerably less incentive to fix himself.

For all that you loved talking to him into the small hours - how did you feel when he kept rejecting your sexual advances and brushing you off sexually? That much have made you feel pretty shit. He was willing to do that to you. Presumably for many years (you don't mention how long you've been together - or I've missed it). That's how much he actually cared about you. Listen to his actions, not his words! They speak much more loudly.

Sorry, OP - it's going to be heartbreaking for you but I don't see how you can come back from this or, in good faith, try to raise DC with this man. You may actually need some counselling to get over this and get back out there, but I'm sure in time you will meet a great man who wholeheartedly appreciates a healthy female sex drive.

PickAChew · 02/06/2020 20:46

There's nothing that can be worked on because he is the unfaithful one who can only get it up with women that who he has dehumanised in his mind to such an extent that he merely sees them as wank socks.

No way is he going to ever change that given that visiting prostitutes seems to be pretty endemic amongst the other makes in his life.