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Found out fiancé has been cheating on me with prostitutes through most of our relationship. Absolutely devastated!

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Bluebell0724 · 02/06/2020 12:56

I thought my relationship was solid F(29) M(31). We had a healthy and incredibly happy relationship. We rarely argued and when we did we would be able to communicate effectively in order to get past it.

We were best friends we would frequently stay up talking into the small hours on a Friday night because we loved each other’s company so much.

My fiancé was the most loving dedicated men id ever met. Told me I was beautiful and he loved me 20x a day. Always tactile and hugging me. We were supposed to be getting married (if cornona would allow) in August.

The only issue was the sex which I tried to fix continuously. We had a good sex life at the beginning it was very passionate and the most exciting I’d experienced initially but it kept decreasing. It went down to once every 2 weeks. (I have a very high sex drive so this wasn’t good)

I always tried to engage in communication about our sex life. It was such a shame how much it had decreased. I have always been a bit of a sexually submissive and had wanted to tell him.

But my attempted communication about sex was always shut down. I was fobbed off and told that he had a low drive and wasn’t that into sex.

I was told that he was faking it at the beginning to please me but that he couldn’t keep it up. I felt like he thought I was an over-sexed pervert.

When I tried to initiate sex I was turned down. When we did have sex he would loose his erection. I bought his excuse hook line and sinker.

A few days ago I was on his phone searching for an email from the company who are providing the decorations for our wedding and I came across an email from the website adult work.

When I opened it up it said ‘this email is not spam you have received it because you have an active account on adult work.com’. I googled it and it was a prostitution website. My heart stopped. My world collapsed at that moment.

I tried to sign in and got his password resent to the email so I could. When I logged in I went into his bookings and saw that he had booked prostitutes.

My fiancé was having a nap so I woke him up and asked him to come into the living room. I showed him what I had found. His face said it all!

He admitted to paying for sex around every two months. He said it had started about 7 months into our relationship and the last time was February this year! I threw him out immediately. The hurt, pain and shock was too much to bare.

Since then and me calming down somewhat he has come round to speak to me about it and answer all of my questions (I have many!). I would say we’ve spoken for at least 40 hours combined.

He said after he’d fallen in love with me he couldn’t see me sexually. He said it was like a switch had turned off and I entered into the not sexual category alongside his mum and sisters.

He said he has been introduced to prostitutes about the age of 19 by older men he new who would take him to brothels after nights out. He said initially he felt uncomfortable but they normalised it to him. He then started paying for sex on his own and had done this all through his 20s (he’s 31 now).

He claimed to only have paid for sex while with me because he wanted to have sex with me but couldn’t. I thought ‘what a load of shit’ but when I logged into adult work and looked at the women. They all looked like me. One frighteningly so much she could be me!

Why would he pay for sex with someone who looks like me rather than actually having sex with me? My confusion grew.

He said he couldn’t. His body and mind wouldn’t allow him to. He said I was his princess and he couldn’t think of me sexually in his mind.

I asked him what he liked sexually. He admitted to liking a power dynamic. Ironically the same power dynamic I like but had always felt I wasn’t allowed to bring up.

He said the power dynamic made him feel like he was abusing me or degrading me and that I was his angel that he couldn’t do that to me. He told me he had put me on a pedestal and that he wouldn’t even allow himself to think of me that way.

I have always been uncomfortable with prostitution (my own personal belief) but I feel there is a lot of exploitation. The idea of him doing degrading things to women he paid made me feel sick and made him seem like a monster.

I told him this he cried and said he was a monster and that the only reason he could do it was because he’d dehumanised the women.

He told me the act of buying sex he had compartmentalised. As if it wasn’t real. He told me he almost saw it as a virtual reality world. But that deep down he understood the severity of his actions as the guilt was heavy. (But as I pointed out not enough guilt to confess or stop.)

Since we spoke about sex and what he liked and what I liked (we probably spoke for 4 hours). He said the blocker has been removed and he’s desperate for sex with me but is obviously respectful and hasn’t pressured. After the conversation his body did seem to be working again. I saw he had an erection and that is something he hadn’t been able to get with me for some time.

The day I found out he phoned all his friends and family and told them what he’d done. One of his sisters has disowned him. He rang our church and told them what he’d done and asked them to help me as I was distraught.

He was also inconsolable so one of the pastors ended up staying on the phone to him for about an hour. The church then contacted me and offered their support.

He has started therapy. And he phones me up or comes round to visit to tell me what was discussed and what insight it has given him into his actions.

He apologises continuously. He has assured me it was nothing to do with me and that I am perfect (to which I always reply no one is perfect’). But human nature is to feel inadequate now which is what I do feel.

I feel like him paying for it over me shows how undesirable I was. But then he keeps reminding me of the women he choose and how they resembled me.

He says I couldn’t have done anymore and that it’s nothing to do with me and that it was his own emotional issues and his own choice to be unfaithful.

He cries and says he will never forgive himself for the betrayal but also for exploiting the women he paid for. He has said that he will support me whatever I want. That he wants to try again and stay together but that he understands the severity of what he’s done and understands that I may never want him back.

It’s all very overwhelming and I am going through such a roller coaster of emotion I don’t know what I want and am not going to rush my decision.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the infidelity? What they would do? Or what they got from what I’ve written?

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Takingontheworld · 03/06/2020 15:24

Just absolutely shuddered over him calling you a slut.

I don't even know where to start on this one.

Please walk OP. He does NOT deserve anymore of your time.

TorkTorkBam · 03/06/2020 15:25

He can Google the effects of prostitution on women and society if he is interested
There are thousands of articles, videos, books, etc written on the topic.

If he is not interested in knowing then what you say will go in one ear and out the other.

Your work is done when you let him know it is a deal breaker for you, you are disgusted and he will never see you again. That's the maximum motivation for a rethink you can provide.

Prettybubblesintheair · 03/06/2020 15:27

Op it is not your job to bloody fix him or cure him so he never pays into the exploitation of women ever again! Is your life and happiness worth so little that you’ll spend it with a man who is only going to treat you worse and worse? He WILL go back to prostitutes. That is a fact. It’ll probably be when you’re pregnant or have dc. And if you’re now in the whore category I fear for you. He won’t respect you or your sexual boundaries, he’ll treat you like you mean nothing and in the mean time he’ll probably look for another Madonna for an affair, emotional affair I suspect. He’ll find someone he considers “pure” and pop them up on that pedestal and will probably eventually leave you for her. It’ll be a cycle for him. Please don’t waste your life with this man.

Bunnymumy · 03/06/2020 15:29

Tbf, op didn't know he was a sex fiend.

The problems performing would have been a clue to many that something was seriously wrong but you cant blame op for turning a blind eye out of...nativity/misplaced hope. It was a mistake yes, but we cant learn if we dont make them.

Now he has shown his true colours op will hopefully make smart choices.

damnthatanxiety · 03/06/2020 15:29

Modonna/Whore complex. He needs therapy. Do you leave him? Well, would you leave any addict or person with a serious mental health issue? Your decision. And it will completely depend on his commitment to healing himself. You could go speak with a therapist who soecialises in this to help you with where you want to go with it.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 15:36

@AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff yeah he said it was just the same thing every time he went. He said ‘it’s not even that bad’ but that’s subjective. I said maybe not for you but imagine how it feels for the woman you’re paying to abuse?

It would appear ‘dirty talk’ is his favourite thing. From what he shared it was less dirty talk and more humiliation talk. He describes the sex he has with them as ‘normal’ but says he always asks for shall we say a type of fellatio which comes from pornography and another act at the end when he ejaculates that I can only describe as humiliation which is again common in pornography I’m sure you can guess what they are.

OP posts:
Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 15:38

@1235kbm thanks I will look that up I think I really need support like that. I don’t ever want to have sex with him again I wouldn’t be able to touch him. I’m disgusted

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Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 15:39

Thank you @Dery 💖

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Bunnymumy · 03/06/2020 15:39

You cant therapise someone into being a decent human being. And it certainly is nothing to do with op to be a part of such a charade anyway.

He isnt mentally ill. He is just a shit.
A liar, a cheat, a misogynist and a manipulator.

If he wanted to change he would have embarked on something before getting engaged to anyone.

AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 03/06/2020 15:42

It just gets worse with every post. Sad

I’ve had arseholes in my life. Really.

It pains me to think that your ‘man’ has the real potential to be worse than mine. I don’t say that lightly.

You do not want to win that prize. Really you don’t.

Please walk away. One foot after the other. Quickly.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 15:42

@Onacleardayyoucansee yes I have some pressing unresolved issues that I think finally need to be resolved. I grew up in a war zone between my parents so probably didn’t have the best example. That’s maybe why I was drawn so much to my fiancé as it was a calm life before all this came out.

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1235kbm · 03/06/2020 15:42

@Bluebell0724 you sound like you're changing your mind a lot here OP. Don't just say things you think we want to hear.

You do need support. If you were my daughter I would be devastated for you. Please look into therapy and do some work on yourself before getting into another relationship.

CorianderLord · 03/06/2020 15:43

He likes to abuse, degrade and punish 'sinful' women.

And he's only 31.

Do you really think that as you both get older, wrinklier, maybe a little rounder. That as you have babies and your body changes, that you are going to be spared his punishment?

Even if your confidence could survive growing old with someone who didn't want sex with you at 29, do you think he won't become a grumpy, angry man who demands and lashes out and starts to see you as a useless woman?

Bunnymumy · 03/06/2020 15:44

Sounds like he even got a sick thrill out of describing what he did to these women to you.

You've had a very lucky escape op.
I hope you can untangle this person from your life completely.

And definately might be wise to speak to someone because I can imagine how scary it must be to have had someone this close to you and not seen it and now maybe be questioning your judgement in future.

You weren't to know though. All the best with your fresh start!

PicsInRed · 03/06/2020 15:48

‘there’s me looking for a slut and I had the biggest slut in the country All along’.

He hates all women. He loathes you also. Loathes you.

I just want to make sure he never pays to abuse another woman again. I’ve made it my mission to put him off for life. I know people have said men who buy sex never change. Maybe that’s true but I want to try at least before I walk away.

You can't save him. He's hardwired this way. The only person you can save is yourself and the unborn children ahead of you. Give them a good father. Not this monster.

I know that’s probably naive and silly.

Very naive and silly in the extreme. Please dont involve innocent children in your florence nightingale fantasy of saviourship. By which I mean - this marriage can never involve children. There is no hope in this. It is now a hopeless life awaiting you.

The only hopeful answer is to leave.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 15:49

@Prettybubblesintheair yes this is exactly what I said to him I said it will come back and that it’s not something that will ever go away.

This is his response (I’m not convinced of it. I’m just laying it out here):

He said it will never come back now he knows he would be able to do what he wants to me sexually. He said if it ever did he wouldn’t act on it and he would talk to me or seek help.

He keeps saying he will never use prostitutes again because he didn’t realise how disgusting and exploitative it was. He keeps saying whatever happens whether you take me back or not I will never pay for sex again.

He seems sincere but then he seemed sincere when he was paying for sex behind my back so I have no faith.

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CorianderLord · 03/06/2020 15:50

Have seen you're deciding to leave. Good. You can't change him, if you stay here to 'save' him and the sex workers it just gives him time to wrap his tendrils into your brain and suck your good intentions out like a parasite.

Over time he'll wheedle you back in and you'll be trapped like a fly in a web.

Whether you're a Madonna fly or a whore fly doesn't matter - in one case he will Carey I'm abusing other women, in the other he will abuse you.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 15:51

@Bunnymumy it seems so silly now but I genuinely believed he was asexual or had low testosterone. I spoke to him about it a few months ago and we stared looking into natural ways to boost testosterone. Can you believe?

OP posts:
CorianderLord · 03/06/2020 15:51

Carry on abusing*

PicsInRed · 03/06/2020 15:52

P.S. I stayed and had a child with mine. The relationshup is long over and he continues to ruin my life every single week. He needs to punish me, so that it was my fault, my sin, my "aberrations" which ended the marriage...rather than his own. Each week. Legal bills, harassment, horrific. He is a "good man" too, a good God fearing man, which means he can gather allies around him. To help him torture me.

The good Christian perverts are the worst OP.

Don't be me. For the love of God. Leave while you still can. Don't be me.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 15:54

@damnthatanxiety we aren’t together I threw him out the minute I found out but we have been in constant contact mostly me asking questions. That’s what I’d through initially that we wouldn’t be together but I’d try to put him off buying sex for life and looking at sex in a more healthy way. But most comments here have convinced me how naive and idealistic that was

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TorkTorkBam · 03/06/2020 15:55

Worse than that bluebell, he is likely getting off on your talk about prostitution and degradation.

Bluebell0724 · 03/06/2020 15:56

@1235kbm yes I feel very confused but I do feel more confident to walk after talking to everyone here. I know it’s silly but I hadn’t realised the advice would be so unanimous and clear and the fact that it is makes it easier in a way

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1235kbm · 03/06/2020 15:58

He said it will never come back now he knows he would be able to do what he wants to me sexually.

OP he pays to degrade and dehumanise women. Why the fuck would you agree for him to do that to you instead? He hates women and takes his hatred out on them sexually. He enjoys the power dynamic of paying for sex. He gets off on the power and control involved.

Several people in the thread have likened him to a future killer of prostitutes. That's how twisted he sounds OP. That's why you've been advised to RUN as far and as fast as you can go. Not sit about talking for hours about his cock and how he likes to punish 'sluts' with it.

TankGirl97 · 03/06/2020 15:58

He will abuse you and still pay for prostitutes. Please for the love of God don't ever bring children into this relationship, it's absolutely heart-rending reading your posts.
You can do so, so much better.

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