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Found out husband has Hidden phone in bedroom to record me..

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Failing366 · 03/05/2020 15:20

Well the title says it all really, my husband has been hiding a second phone in the bedroom to record me...

Backstory.. we've been together for 17 years, 3 children. We've had our issues over the years, the main one being around 5 years ago I got close to an old friend, only via messages we never met up or saw each other, i won't lie and say there wasn't sexual talk because there was but it was more having someone to talk to who I guess gave me attention. Husband found out by logging into my Facebook/ messenger and it caused a lot of trouble, we talked and decided the marriage was worth saving and apart from one incident a few months after I stopped contact with the other guy every things been fine, that inicident was him hiding his phone under our bed to record me on the phone, we discussed how that was out of order and to be honest it hasn't been mentioned again..

Fast forward five years...

Just before Xmas I'd visited my family and when I came home I noticed all my things had been looked through, like drawers all messy jewelry boxes moved, just really obvious someone had been going through my things, I asked him and he denied doing it, the next day when j went up to bed I saw a reflection in the glass on his drawers, it was his phone, hidden on a shelf at the top of our bed and it was recording, the voice recorder on.. tbh I didn't do anything that night, but over the next few days things were frosty, he eventually texted me to ask what was wrong and I'd told him that I'd found his phone recording and he denied all knowledge, said it must have been a mistake, I made a point of saying how it made me feel so disrespected and that it was out of order recording me and he again said he hadn't, well things slowly got back to normal until I got an notification saying someone had logged into my Facebook and messenger, I was able to log him out, I know it was him as it says the phone and where they are, anyway I logged him out and confronted him, he denied it being him, swore blind he didn't do it..

So over the last few months I've been finding blobs of bluetac stuck to our bed, always on my side, tbh it's had me paranoid, I know he's been recording me but I've not had the proof until last night when I found his phone stuck to the bed with the voice recorder on..

Well I kinda lost it, I'll admit, I took his pillows and his phone downstairs and told him the sofa was his new home.. yet again I asked why he thought he could record me and how upset it makes me that he's been doing it and denying so, he barely said anything, just the usual, firstly he denied it, he did end up admitting it but no reasons..

I asked if it were a sexual thing, I dunno some new kink which is totally unacceptable but it would explain and he said it wasn't.. he won't give any reasons why he's doing it or even acknowledge how upset I am by this..

Am I over reacting? Is it acceptable to record your wife without her knowledge?

I find it so disrespectful and I'm hurt that he's obviously been doing this for months now, I have absolutely nothing to hide, since the situation five years ago I hand on heart haven't spoken to another man, I mean I don't even really have friends as the one friend I did have he used to show up at the coffee shop when we would meet, I feel like Im so seperated from friends and family for him and he still thinks it acceptable to record me.. I don't even feel safe in my own home now, I feel paranoid that he's recording me in other places than the bedroom..
What can I do? What reasons does he have for doing this?

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ThrowbackMagic · 03/05/2020 16:45

Does he expect to catch you talking on the phone either with or about an OM?

I think you need to seek couples counselling if you want to stay together.

If he’s done it out of voyeurism that’s completely different and would be the beginning of the end for me.

ravenmum · 03/05/2020 16:45

I'd certainly look into it and see if it's illegal. Googling suggests that you might be allowed to record CCTV for private (non-shared) use in your own home, but that sound recordings are considered more of a breach of privacy. Looks like the law has become stricter even as recently as 2018, so it would probably be best to ask an actual lawyer.

Whatever the legal implications, you clearly don't trust one another in the slightest.

Failing366 · 03/05/2020 16:45

@FizzyGreenWater

I don't think I'm seeing how serious it is am I.. I just really feel like somehow I deserve it and if we talk it over it'll all stop.. I know that's deluded but I don't think I can deal with the thought of actually having to stand up and say this is over I'm not standing for this, I've never been one to stand up for myself..

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AcrossthePond55 · 03/05/2020 16:46

You no longer trust him. He obviously hasn't trusted you for a long time. No relationship can thrive once the trust is broken. And there can be no healthy sort of love without trust.

So, what do you want to come out of all of this? You can either divorce and be free or you can live the rest of your life wondering what he's up to and living with no sense of privacy. He's already living the rest of his life devising ways to catch you out cheating.

Personally, if I were either of you I would divorce and begin to live life in peace and security.

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Pinkyxx · 03/05/2020 16:52

@Failing366 I am so sorry to read your horrible situation. His filming/recording you is unacceptable and there is no valid excuse at all for his - whether you had an emotional affair or not. Recording you sleeping is a little strange (unless it's sexual). Are you absolutely certain he is not recording you elsewhere in at home?

My ex-husband had an emotional affair for years before moving onto a physical affair and ultimately leaving to marry this new woman. It is a horrible experience however no matter how hurt I was, how angry I was by his denial it didn't even cross my mind to act in the way your DH has. It's just abhorrent. This is far more intimate than reading an email or texts. Two wrongs never equal right and one does not justify the other. Your texting another man is NOT a relevant factor here.

That being said, what stands out most to me reading your last post, is that you in a way feel you 'deserve' this. I wonder if your abusive past might have in some way, inadvertently, led to you ending up with someone else abusive? Refusing to explain why he is recording you is abusive. Being subjected to 'voyeurism' in your own home is a massive infringement of your personal boundaries and abusive.

I recommend you maybe think about calling Rights of Women or Refuge and taking through this situation with them. They are very experienced and you can remain anonymous. It is not always obvious to the abused that they are in an abusive relationship particularly if the 'norm' from their childhood was also abusive and 'home' wasn't a safe place.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 03/05/2020 17:05

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SirVixofVixHall · 03/05/2020 17:06

OP are you sure he isn’t filming you as well ? Hidden cameras can be tiny, and in innocuous looking items like plugs, light sockets etc. Have a
look on youtube for hidden cameras as you can see what to look for.

ThrowbackMagic · 03/05/2020 17:08

Reading your post again it sounds like something has happened recently that has spooked him and he has become suspicious that you’re cheating again - looking through your things, logging into your messenger too, trying to catch you out.

Your texting another man is NOT a relevant factor here.

The OP cheating on her husband does not make invading her privacy ok or justified, and it does not mean she has to put up with it, however it is 100% a relevant factor here.

ravenmum · 03/05/2020 17:14

If he was sneaky enough to put mini cameras in a socket, I'd think he'd be sneaky enough to find a better way of recording sound than a phone and bluetack.

Failing366 · 03/05/2020 17:14

@SirVixofVixHall oh god 🤦🏻‍♀️he ordered a small hidden camera from Amazon a month or so ago, a part was missing so he had to return it, the only reason I know was our printer at home is linked to an app on my phone and he needed a returns label printing, he said it was for work. He does work in the security industry and I just believed that...
I didn't think for a second he would hide a camera..

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Failing366 · 03/05/2020 17:15

@ravenmum that's calmed me a little, you're right he'd have a better way than bluetac on a bed frame if he were sneaky enough..

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ravenmum · 03/05/2020 17:17

If I'd just found someone secretly recording me, I would think a previous order of a hidden camera would come to mind, without someone having to point it out to me. I'm off this thread, have fun.

TheGirlWithAPrince · 03/05/2020 17:19

Your husband sounds like a wierdo..he either trusts you or he doesnt and he obviously doesnt.

Either you accept that he will always try to catch you out or you leave

Onesipmore · 03/05/2020 17:22

I wonder if you have ever slept talked about the other man and he's trying to catch you sleep talking as some sort of 'proof' Its weird its just sound not video and weird it when you are in bed together not really when you are on your own (if he's attaching the phone before you go to bed) Either way, its not great x

Failing366 · 03/05/2020 17:23

@ravenmum I'm sorry but it did genuinely just come to my mind, I totally dismissed it at the time as he said it was for work..
Like I said I have 3 add children, my daughter has a sleep disorder too and all of this only happened last night, it's like my brains scrambling to catch up and piece the pieces together..
As I've said before I can see why some would think this is made up, it sounds absolutely crazy but I assure you it isn't made up, I really wish it was..

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justasking111 · 03/05/2020 17:24

Are you quite sure there is not a tracker in your car/handbag?

JacobReesMogadishu · 03/05/2020 17:24

If it’s voice recorder not video it doesn’t sound sexual. Unless he thinks you might be partaking in noisy masturbation!

Sounds like he’s trying to catch you out ringing someone because he doesn’t trust you. But even that doesn’t make sense as if someone is having an affair it’s unlikely they’d ring and have a conversation with them from home when the husband is there? Especially if previously it was conducted mainly by messaging. I’d check your phone for keylogger software....he might be watching everything you type.

Just seen your last message about the camera....did you ask him why he ordered one?

Jade0000 · 03/05/2020 17:25

I know you know deep down what should be done now, you just came on here to hear other peoples opinions to see if they matched your own. Personally it's time to show him where the door is, let your hair down and be happy for once instead of holding onto something that is obviously never going to work. When youre unhappy your kids are unhappy, when you're happy your kids are happy.

JacobReesMogadishu · 03/05/2020 17:25

Sorry, see he said it was for work. Well that’s unlikely.

OhLook · 03/05/2020 17:26

Just get rid of him. What is the point of living like this?

em90792 · 03/05/2020 17:29

Personally, I would wait contact the police and have the house searcher while he is at work, or put so.he doesnt have time to hide evidence. This is NOT ok. What you did does not give him the right to behave this way and I'd be concerned what else may be in the property.
Stop blaming yourself for his behaviour. If you hadn't done what you.did 5 years ago would you be saying the same thing? Probably not.
Good luck xxx

FinnefanFox · 03/05/2020 17:30

I would report him to the Police, he clearly does not trust you, not a way to live.

NotMyNigel · 03/05/2020 17:32

Check for hidden cameras. If you find any, say nothing to him but take a photo on your phone.

Then call the police and says he’s been recording you and you don’t feel safe. Say nothing to him until they arrive. Then show them what you’ve found.

AcrossthePond55 · 03/05/2020 17:34

Honestly, per my post above, why on earth would you want to stay in a marriage where you are not trusted AND where you cannot trust your spouse?

Leaving has nothing to do with 'standing up for yourself'. Standing up for yourself is staying and saying "I will not put up with your sneaky spying anymore!!!". Leaving is simply getting your ducks in a row, mentally letting go of the relationship, and then saying "I am done" with no excuses or justifications.

And that's what I'd do.

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