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Shall I tell his wife about your affair?

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IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 02/04/2020 22:04

Hello all,

I am fairly new here, I actually just registered because I'd really like to know people's opinions on my situation.

In autumn last year I became close to my then colleague. He was newly separated from his wife, but not divorced. They have three kids (a 4 year old and 1 year old twins). He'd moved to a small rented flat and left his wife and the kids in their home. The plan was, as he told me straight from the start, to start the divorce in summer 2020 because apparently that's when his wife's widowed mother would officially retire and move in with his wife to help with the kids (they're apparently a bit of a handful).

He said that his wife doesn't know about us because it's better this way apparently. He indicated that it may be easier for everyone to tell her after the divorce to keep 'things in check', whatever that means.

The thing is that we didn't hide our affair very well at work and as a result I lost my job because of that (it wasn't so straightforward but essentially it came down to the fact that one of us had to go and as he was senior, but not my manager, he was more 'valuable' for the company and so I had to go). That was in January. I have got over it more less by now, however, as he's an experienced IT expert, he was head hunted for and was offered a better job elsewhere and left the company a month after me to start in his new, better paid job. So the sum total of this is that I've lost my job but cannot find a new one easily, at least not in my line of work, because most companies have temporarily frozen recruitment, whilst he's enjoying a great step up in his career. Unfair much?

To top it off, just before the lockdown he moved back home (apparently for the sake of the kids so that they don't suffer without seeing him for the duration of the lockdown) but his wife's mother is apparently there as well, supposedly helping with the kids and he confirmed that she's taken the guest bedroom which would mean that he's back in the marital bed with his wife. So there is he with his wife and her mother and of course the three kids in their home, for the duration of the isolation.

Here is the thing - our relationship has become rather sour, I'd even say non-existent during this lockdown period. Previously he would message me a 100 times a day, but now I haven't heard from him for a couple of days. Previously he would be super affectionate, lovey dovey, planning our future and generally being swept of his feet by me etc etc etc. Now, at my age (36) I approach this love bombing with caution but I think he really was genuine when things were great. I don't understand what's happened but I feel very hurt by the sudden lack of his attention. When I asked him about it, he didn't really say anything.

I went from feeling sad, to confused, to super angry. When I consider that I lost my job because of our affair (I know, I know, I took part in it voluntarily) but he smoothly transitioned from one job to another, it makes me fume inside. He used to be all lovey dovey treating me almost like the love of his life - this went on consistently for months and now nothing. I don't hear anything from him at all. Not a beep. I've tried to initiate some contact this week but he came across as distant and all his affection/love/ enthusiasm for me was gone.

I am super angry. I am also feeling lonely (I live alone). I am jobless and generally things are not easy. I probably came off as a bit of clingy when trying to talk to him this week, that's not my usual self. He always admired how strong and independent I am. And now I was almost begging for attention. It's not a situation I've experienced before and my ego is taking over my rationale. The last straw was when tonight I saw him bragging to someone about his new job on LinkedIn. I really, really feel very close to letting his wife know about us....They were separated anyways and according to him, the divorce proceedings were to start in summer. It just seems so very unfair that he seems to be getting away with everything and coming across as the good guy (a responsible father who didn't want to be separated from the kids too long and a reliable breadwinner who quickly moved to a better paid job). Nobody knows about our affair - well, apart from people at our old office, but deep down I wish he suffered a bit too. I know it's awful to admit this, I should probably be the better person here but it's very, very hard. Normally the right thing to do in this situation would be to move on and find someone else, with better circumstances but I can't even date anyone else because of this lockdown! Part of me deep down wants to let his wife know which would, potentially, make their isolation situation rather unpleasant, hopefully for him mainly!

Thoughts please? I think I know what you all will probably tell me - that I should raise above it and let it be and move on. But that's that one thing that it's hard for me to do and I dont' even want to do that if I am perfectly honest. It feels like I am the one who is paying for everything but he's is breezily running through it all with flying effing colours...

OP posts:
CalmerViolet · 04/04/2020 10:53

But I am shocked to see how many people automatically take the wife's side and blame me, leaving him somewhere in the middle

The wife’s ‘side’?

The whole point is she hasn’t done anything wrong in all this. The nature of her character is irrelevant. The person who has behaved really badly is her DH / your now-Ex. He has treated you both like shit.

But you are using her as a pawn in your desire for revenge.

Tell him what he has done wrong, leave her out if it.

grindergirl · 04/04/2020 11:42

Think most posters are being incredibly harsh on the OP. Do people really believe that once reaching a certain age, all crazy bewitchments stop? That feeling emotional rage and pain is only for teenagers? It's often only hindsight that lets you see the red flags fluttering away. Very different circumstances, but I can still remember exactly what it felt like to realise I'd been taken for a cunt and played for a fool by a man I once cared deeply about. It was only after I started reading about personality disorders that I fully realised what had been done to me---and why. Even so, that didn't stop wishes for revenge from surfacing. In my case, I wanted to go all Sicilian, chop off his dick with a rusty carving knife, and feed it to a pack of scabby dogs. But as I'm not Sicilian, I didn't.
OP, if you're still following the thread, here's why you shouldn't give poor little wifey full details on the claprat she married. It's not about her peace of mind, it's about YOURS. By doing such a thing, you're prolonging your own pain. You'll be imagining all kinds of ''he says, she says'' scenarios. It's the same as continuously picking a scab. You never give yourself a chance to heal.

TSSDNCOP · 04/04/2020 12:08

Write the letter, insert the screen shots. It might be cathartic Don't ever send it.

It reads to me that this couple were never separated. This man has played you. If you reveal all to his wife now, during lockdown, I think you will look back and bitterly regret it. Ultimately it will resolve nothing about your circumstances so it is pointless.

With regard to your job. Did you sign a settlement agreement or was it a redundancy? If it was the former you may find you've got no grounds for a claim against your company.

Wolfgirrl · 04/04/2020 14:14

I just dont understand the majority of these replies.

If your husband had an affair, wouldn't you want to know? Is there anyone out there that would rather not be told?

I think OP should wait until the lockdown is over, but surely she deserves to know the truth? She has three little kids, if she decides to leave him then they're at an age where it will go over their heads a bit and they wont really remember it. The alternative is leaving him to cheat again and possibly break the family up when the kids are older and aware of what is going on.

For those saying OP has done nothing wrong; she has been naive at best and selfish at worst. Either she had an inkling he hadn't really left his wife and ignored it, or was perfectly fine with starting a clandestine relationship with a married man with three babies, leaving the poor wife to look after them while he enjoyed himself. Hardly the qualities you want in a boyfriend anyway.

And if by some miracle the husband had been honest with his wife, it wont be anything she doesnt already know.

The letter/email/whatever doesnt need to be unnecessarily nasty, just outlining the facts, maybe one or two screenshots to support them and (in my opinion) a brief apology.

Wolfgirrl · 04/04/2020 14:15

Sorry another point is the wife is probably still young enough to start again and find somebody that loves her, this will get harder as time goes on, so she is far better off knowing the truth now than enduring another 20 years of lies.

Iateallthecookies000 · 04/04/2020 14:34

Op has gone so she might have already done it. I’m thinking that some poor woman is out there in lockdown very hurt. Hope it was all worth it op.

strawberry2017 · 04/04/2020 14:47

I think the OP is jealous he chose to spend lockdown with his family not her.
I think yes actually the wife does deserve to know but not in a spiteful mean way. Not because your angry because she's done nothing wrong in this situation at all.
It's not going to change the job situation, that's on you and him.
You need legal advice to see if what they did was right or not and then you can look at things then.
You need to seriously calm down before toy do anything because whilst she deserves to know she doesn't deserve to be hurt.

pusspuss9 · 04/04/2020 14:55

if she decides to leave him then they're at an age where it will go over their heads a bit and they wont really remember it.

but they'll see their mum falling apart and they will be affected massively.

pusspuss9 · 04/04/2020 14:56

However she should be told at some time, I agree, just not now

SandyY2K · 04/04/2020 15:06

You're lonely
You've lost your job
You've lost your man
You're bitter, jealous and angry.

You're also making yourself out to be a victim and come across immature.

As a pp said, that's not taking responsibility for your actions.

This line of 'I didn't make vows to her*, doesn't absolve you of wrong doing.

Your behaviour now is very typical of many OWs, when the MM goes back to his wife. Suddenly they're full of concern for his wife and think she deserves to know his true colours.

That concern, never surfaced when the going was good. Only when you get dumped do you feel she has a right to know. She wasn't your responsibility then and she isn't now. Don't act like you're doing her a favour.

You played with fire...you got burnt. Put it down to experience and move on.

Even if him being separated was true, there are some divorced dads who have moved back in during lockdown.

There are also men (and women) who end relationships by ghosting....nothing about your situation is unique.

If you're having difficulty paying rent, then the current situation should stop you being evicted.

I'd move back to Austria if I could. There's nothing here for you and your mental health will take a big hit.

Wolfgirrl · 04/04/2020 15:10

@pusspuss9

Of course it will affect them but not as badly as of they understood everything that is going on.

The alternative is for the wife to spend the rest of her life with a lying cheat.

My parents did the whole 'stay together for the kids' thing, they were totally unsuited and made my childhood miserable with their fighting. When my mum told me they were splitting up when I was 15, I actually said that's a relief.

pusspuss9 · 04/04/2020 15:32

@wolfgirl
I agree with you about not staying together just for the sake of the children and I also think she deserves to know. I just think now would be a bad time mainly because his wife wouldn't be able to scream at him and cry or whatever else she might want to do to mourn her marriage. with her mum around. It would be difficult anyway with the children but at least when thy are in bed she would normally have time and space to let go of her composture. She would also have the privacy to talk to her friends about it which she wouldn't necessarily do with her mum around.

Iateallthecookies000 · 04/04/2020 15:35

My best friend has just gone through this. Her and her fiancée have been together for over 10 years and she found dodgy texts on his phone which he couldn’t deny. She’s probably the strongest woman I know way stronger than I’d be but she’s broken now. I’ve seen the devastation first hand and it’s awful. At least they don’t have kids although they were trying to.

BurneyFanny · 04/04/2020 15:40

This guy sounds pretty identifiable. French guy in senior management in the UK, new job, twins and an older kid... a pretty outing combo.

Postspecific · 04/04/2020 16:54

And Austrian partner.

Wolfgirrl · 04/04/2020 16:59

@pusspuss9 I did put in two of my posts OP should wait until lockdown is over.

pusspuss9 · 04/04/2020 17:33

@wolfgirl
yes I know. I think we basically agree on this.

ChocolateQuiltedShitPig · 04/04/2020 17:38

Why do you keep referring to it as an affair if he was separated?

Anyway, it sounds like they had never separated. Oh well, nothing ever comes of an affair does it love

Experimenopause · 04/04/2020 17:46

Tell her. But in a factual way. Like another poster said here. If I were the wife, I would want to know. I will be grateful if you tell me the whole situation, including how he was instrumental in your job loss.

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OldWomanSaysThis · 04/04/2020 18:23

They were never separated.
The wife didn't know about the bachelor pad.
He made sure you lost your job.
He probably painted you out to be a crazy person to the decision makers at the company.
He's finished using you and you are invited now to leave him alone.
He'll lie to some new woman after the lock down and start again.
The wife will keep head firmly in sand due to having 3 very young children and probably financial dependency - no matter what she knows or knows .

BurneyFanny · 04/04/2020 18:28

everyone I know who knows French men says they're cheats

Ridiculous racist generalisation.

CuppaZa · 04/04/2020 18:35

I haven’t read the whole thread, so am likely to get bashed by a few...but, looks like he’s back with his wife. Even if not ‘officially’, they are back in the ‘couple’ routine and most likely a sexual relationship. He has dumped you without telling you.
Forget him. Normally I advocate telling the wife, however your motives are shady. If they were separated it wasn’t an affair. You were just a secret. They are likely to be in the same household for a long time. Why would you disrupt her and the children’s lives like that at an already awful time? Nasty. It’s not her fault, nor is it their children’s fault. Focus your anger elsewhere. You voluntarily entered into a relationship with a married, albeit separated man. It didn’t work out. You win some, you lose some. Shit happens. Move on.

Leave that family alone

ReceiptsAreSweet · 04/04/2020 18:47

I think you should focus on your old workplace. I don't think what they did is in keeping with employment law

VanGoghsDog · 05/04/2020 01:56

I think you should focus on your old workplace. I don't think what they did is in keeping with employment law

But it was over three months ago so she's out of time to bring a claim.