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Shall I tell his wife about your affair?

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IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 02/04/2020 22:04

Hello all,

I am fairly new here, I actually just registered because I'd really like to know people's opinions on my situation.

In autumn last year I became close to my then colleague. He was newly separated from his wife, but not divorced. They have three kids (a 4 year old and 1 year old twins). He'd moved to a small rented flat and left his wife and the kids in their home. The plan was, as he told me straight from the start, to start the divorce in summer 2020 because apparently that's when his wife's widowed mother would officially retire and move in with his wife to help with the kids (they're apparently a bit of a handful).

He said that his wife doesn't know about us because it's better this way apparently. He indicated that it may be easier for everyone to tell her after the divorce to keep 'things in check', whatever that means.

The thing is that we didn't hide our affair very well at work and as a result I lost my job because of that (it wasn't so straightforward but essentially it came down to the fact that one of us had to go and as he was senior, but not my manager, he was more 'valuable' for the company and so I had to go). That was in January. I have got over it more less by now, however, as he's an experienced IT expert, he was head hunted for and was offered a better job elsewhere and left the company a month after me to start in his new, better paid job. So the sum total of this is that I've lost my job but cannot find a new one easily, at least not in my line of work, because most companies have temporarily frozen recruitment, whilst he's enjoying a great step up in his career. Unfair much?

To top it off, just before the lockdown he moved back home (apparently for the sake of the kids so that they don't suffer without seeing him for the duration of the lockdown) but his wife's mother is apparently there as well, supposedly helping with the kids and he confirmed that she's taken the guest bedroom which would mean that he's back in the marital bed with his wife. So there is he with his wife and her mother and of course the three kids in their home, for the duration of the isolation.

Here is the thing - our relationship has become rather sour, I'd even say non-existent during this lockdown period. Previously he would message me a 100 times a day, but now I haven't heard from him for a couple of days. Previously he would be super affectionate, lovey dovey, planning our future and generally being swept of his feet by me etc etc etc. Now, at my age (36) I approach this love bombing with caution but I think he really was genuine when things were great. I don't understand what's happened but I feel very hurt by the sudden lack of his attention. When I asked him about it, he didn't really say anything.

I went from feeling sad, to confused, to super angry. When I consider that I lost my job because of our affair (I know, I know, I took part in it voluntarily) but he smoothly transitioned from one job to another, it makes me fume inside. He used to be all lovey dovey treating me almost like the love of his life - this went on consistently for months and now nothing. I don't hear anything from him at all. Not a beep. I've tried to initiate some contact this week but he came across as distant and all his affection/love/ enthusiasm for me was gone.

I am super angry. I am also feeling lonely (I live alone). I am jobless and generally things are not easy. I probably came off as a bit of clingy when trying to talk to him this week, that's not my usual self. He always admired how strong and independent I am. And now I was almost begging for attention. It's not a situation I've experienced before and my ego is taking over my rationale. The last straw was when tonight I saw him bragging to someone about his new job on LinkedIn. I really, really feel very close to letting his wife know about us....They were separated anyways and according to him, the divorce proceedings were to start in summer. It just seems so very unfair that he seems to be getting away with everything and coming across as the good guy (a responsible father who didn't want to be separated from the kids too long and a reliable breadwinner who quickly moved to a better paid job). Nobody knows about our affair - well, apart from people at our old office, but deep down I wish he suffered a bit too. I know it's awful to admit this, I should probably be the better person here but it's very, very hard. Normally the right thing to do in this situation would be to move on and find someone else, with better circumstances but I can't even date anyone else because of this lockdown! Part of me deep down wants to let his wife know which would, potentially, make their isolation situation rather unpleasant, hopefully for him mainly!

Thoughts please? I think I know what you all will probably tell me - that I should raise above it and let it be and move on. But that's that one thing that it's hard for me to do and I dont' even want to do that if I am perfectly honest. It feels like I am the one who is paying for everything but he's is breezily running through it all with flying effing colours...

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ElspethFlashman · 03/04/2020 13:52

Well he's fucked off for months already in his own flat, so that "blowing their world apart" ship has sailed somewhat. He's only back a matter of weeks.

And since he's certainly going to do it again the moment lockdown is over. Except maybe he'll find himself a new little diversion in his new job first.

Why do people think that the alternative to telling the wife is any better for her?

For all we know he still has the flat and can go back there. And she has her Mum.

pusspuss9 · 03/04/2020 13:54

Also, and I'll say it again, it's not the OP that's done the world rocking. It's the father of these kids.

They both have. The OP does not escape from her part in all this. I don't believe she is entirely innocent.

RedPandaFluff · 03/04/2020 13:58

If I were the wife I'd want to know. Technically it may not have been an affair, but he's been really dishonest and she's probably evaluating their future right now.

So yes, it could be seen as spiteful to tell her, but even so, I think she should understand the full picture before she makes decisions.

It would have to be clear as day with black and white proof though, so he can't downplay/minimise it all . . .

BrooHaHa · 03/04/2020 14:02

i think telling a woman stuck in lockdown with small children would be an awful thing to do. its all very well saying "he should have thought of that" well yes he should but the reality is he didnt, and 3 children would be caught in the crossfire. It would be unimgainably horrible for them and her

So you want this poor woman to truly believe that her darling DH has reconsidered, fall back in love with him, have sex with him, have his kids believe he's back for good, play happy families for the duration of lockdown and then what? He ups and leaves at the end and shatters all that for the second time? Or she finds out he's been having a relationship with someone else from shortly after leaving until returning and that it was all a lie?

She needs to know the truth, she deserves to know the truth and, if I were her, I would want to know the truth. No one has any right to keep it from her as a grown woman in order to 'protect' her.

ittakes2 · 03/04/2020 14:04

Are you sure he had left her? He wasn’t just renting because easier for travel or maybe they were trying to work it out. Or maybe she booted him out? The whole leaving the divorce until the mother retired rings alarm bells for me. Divorce and childcare from someone else is not interlinked. My friend’s husband cheated and he was living in a flat while they tried to work it out.
I am really sorry but I think this man has not showed you the whole picture. I suspect she booted him out and has now let him back in with the lock down. Or I am sorry he might have taken up with you on the rebound.
Do you have any friends you can talk to? It sounds like you are seeking attention - you are actually talking about dating during the lock down.
Honestly, forget about this man and move on. Maybe you shroud tell his wife but I would suggest you wait until this is all over. It’s the kids that would suffer with all the fighting and she has done nothing to deserve all this stress. I hope you find a new job.

Postspecific · 03/04/2020 14:05

So when you started dating, he was still living with her? Do you have any evidence at all that they’d separated?

Dontletitbeyou · 03/04/2020 14:05

@TigerKingisMental. Exactly , agree with everything you said .
Seems like Op is trying to make herself the victim , seems like she moved in pretty quick considering the age of his twins , most people would have proceeded with caution , or do you would think ,
The wife does have a right to know about her DH shitty behavior, but I still think doing that during lockdown would be done out of pure spite. She said herself ‘I would have done all I could ‘
Yeah , that ‘balls deep ‘comment , pretty rank, says a lot about the Op tbh

BrooHaHa · 03/04/2020 14:05

They both have. The OP does not escape from her part in all this. I don't believe she is entirely innocent.

She's been naive, but that's not a crime. He said the marriage was over and just waiting for the legalities, she believed him. I had a friend who was separated for literally years because her STBXH was dragging his feet so much over the divorce, but it was over. There's nothing morally reprehensible about the OP taking this man at his word.

DianneWhatcock · 03/04/2020 14:08

OP no flaming or judgement here. You thought he was separated and I know how convincing these type of men can be. Absolutely DO tell his wife but wait till this corona shit is over (it would be awful for his wife and kids being stuck in with arguments etc)

Keep all the messages and evidence etc, take screenshots where possible

He really is a fucking absolute cunt, if it was my H I would want to know, as awful as it would be initially. She and her kids deserve WAY WAY better, and so do you. He doesn't deserve to just get to walk away from this with his career intact while playing happy families with this poor unsuspecting woman.

TigerKingisMental · 03/04/2020 14:08

Has anyone else considerer that the flat might be a sham. Perhaps he borrowed it from a friend. Very easy to do given they spent most of the time at the OPs place.

I still maintain the rights of all the adults involved do not trump the responsibilities towards three very young children. They deserve emotional stability during a stressful and scary time. The adults can deal with their own feelings afterwards.

SudokuQueen · 03/04/2020 14:10

So you're admitting to having an affair with a married man, so you're timeline in the op is obviously wrong, you started shagging him when he was living at home.

You're admitting to being that stupid that you left your job over this charming fellow, who started shagging another woman while living with his wife and then after he 'separated', and probably believed he loved you and would take care of you.

And now you're so pissed off by these stupid choices you want to ruin his life too?

Realistically, I agree, the wife should know. She should know he's been shagging about, caught God only knows what and is probably passing it along to her right now. Plus she should know that he is lying scum.

But you deserve zero sympathy. Because I don't believe for a second that you weren't shagging him before they split. You deserve everything you got.

Onceateacher · 03/04/2020 14:14

The Op is over-egging this "relationship". She was a break-up shag from a father probably having a mid life crisis. When the chips came down he wanted to be home with his wife and family, and the new woman is out the door. Would we actually think better of him for not wanting to go home to his family at this crazy time?
I would have more sympathy for the OP if she didn't also come across as very unpleasant herself.

BrooHaHa · 03/04/2020 14:15

I still maintain the rights of all the adults involved do not trump the responsibilities towards three very young children. They deserve emotional stability during a stressful and scary time. The adults can deal with their own feelings afterwards

And, as adults, their parents should be able to conduct themselves appropriately rather than having massive screaming arguments. The vast majority of parents can manage this (particularly if there's another adult in the house to see). The parents should be able to meet their responsibilities towards their kids while in possession of the truth.

JennysTailor · 03/04/2020 14:17

My friend fell for the same shit from some guy despite me warning her he was most likely feeding her a line. Even when his wife fell pregnant during their apparent sexless separation it still took a while for her to realise he was full of shit.

If you go into something desperate to believe the other person then the guilt just isn't there, it's a fantasy world and no wives or children matter. He's played you OP, do you think things got too risky for him and he arranged for you to be dismissed while he knew he was topped for a promotion, giving him an easy way out?

BrooHaHa · 03/04/2020 14:17

I would have more sympathy for the OP if she didn't also come across as very unpleasant herself.

She's not showing herself in the best light, no. But she's having a really tough time of it already, and it's easy to judge.

BrooHaHa · 03/04/2020 14:18

Has anyone else considerer that the flat might be a sham. Perhaps he borrowed it from a friend. Very easy to do given they spent most of the time at the OPs place.

Oh yes, I wouldn't trust this guy as far as I could throw him.

IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 03/04/2020 14:19

OP why are you now talking about him "cheating", since you have said he was separated? Which is it?

I don't know, I have a stormy head. I guess it's because he didn't tell his wife about us....and then all the stuff that happened at work...everyone would think he was effectively cheating...I am really confused now. I am starting to wonder how much he was actually lying to me about. I could only go by what he said to me, it all made sense back then so I believed him...but now I think he was playing a game far more cruel that I thought.

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BogRollQueen · 03/04/2020 14:26

He’s obviously a complete bullshitter and utter arsehole. He had an affair with a junior colleague, dicked around his wife and very young children, fucked up your job and then dumped you.

I wouldn’t be giving him another moment of your headspace. He’s a nasty piece of work.

Emeeno1 · 03/04/2020 14:27

It might help you to examine your motives for telling his wife. You mention overwhelming revenge but there seems an under current of jealousy too. He made you feel special, adored even. Are you looking to punish him really in the hope that he will come crawling back?

I don't think any of us can really know whether his wife would want to know or not so working out wwhat your own decisions are based on is the best you can do here.

JennysTailor · 03/04/2020 14:28

I would not believe any of it. The fact he was even away from his wife and kids so soon after she had given birth should have been a big warning. If all your plans had come to fruition, do you believe he would have been a faithful partner to you and a loyal dad to any children you might have? You also would have had to factor in his three existing children.
I know you must be feeling shite and I agree his wife deserves to know, although it will come out eventually, probably when her children leave home, he gets bored and leaves her for another woman.

EmbarrassingMama · 03/04/2020 14:28

He sounds like a monumental bellend. He clearly didn't ever tell her about you and he had no intention of doing so.

He let you lose your job and be isolated alone.

I'm sorry this has happened to you, but really: you've dodged a bullet.

Ohfeckohfuckohshit · 03/04/2020 14:30

You are acting like the other woman. Sending her screenshots of messages makes it sound like you are exposing him.. i.e a known affair..

Why not message her and ask her straight-- you've been in a relationship with man for x amount of time and things have taken an odd turn, you are aware he has returned home amid the lockdown and would like to know if they have reconciled so that you can move on..

CJsGoldfish · 03/04/2020 14:30

Yes, sex with a SEPARATED man. What's wrong with that??

Sorry, but he clearly wasn't doing the best parenting job in the world when he was balls deep inside me

So which is it OP?

Seems you're just pissed off that he didn't pick you from the above. You didn't think there was anything wrong until he went back to his wife and now everyone must pay.
He wasn't cheating, according to you, until that narrative didn't really suit you anymore Confused

IWillHaveAnotherOneThankYou · 03/04/2020 14:31

She's not showing herself in the best light, no. But she's having a really tough time of it already, and it's easy to judge

Well, Iam sorry that I am not coming across as the loveliest person alive but right now I am having to reconsider my future and it seems that the whole thing may have far more reaching consequences for me. I may have to move back to Austria, which is funny considering that I survived the Brexit referendum hater and will have to start over again, from scratch elsewhere. Whereas he's going to carry on with lis life rather intact and unshaken. Of course I don't have any energy left to think about how (un) pleasant I may be coming across.....because I never thought that this would turn so sour and potentially shake up my entire life. He was also involved but he doesn't seem to be paying the same price, so far no price at all. How far is that?

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CJsGoldfish · 03/04/2020 14:39

All this fucking revenge shit is simply a way to avoid taking any responsibility for your own actions.
It was all ok until it wasn't. Learn from it OP and grow up and move on.