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The Happy Singleton- Part Two

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mildlymiffed · 01/03/2020 22:47

Ta-dah! Welcome to all our happily (sometimes, admittedly, less so!) single peeps! All welcome, whether your recently singled or a long-term singleton.

We've got this solo thing sorted (-ish!)

@misty9 do your thang!

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Misty9 · 02/03/2020 19:52

Wow! The thread has exploded! I'm much better today thank you @SirChing - it's amazing what a bit of distance can do.

I can't remember who has said what but, me and exdh are amicable - like a pp said he's now like a really annoying brother (and I have two of those already...) - and reading some of your accounts I'm quite lucky with exdh I suppose. He's autistic and has never really expressed emotion so the same was true for the split. It's always been me with the emotions, which had its own problems.

Also as a pp said, I agree that bouts of loneliness are completely normal and I find it helps to recognise that they do pass. I feel I probably am strong enough to date now, but I just can't be arsed with online dating. The recent twat was someone I met in real life, so that's not without risk too! If it happens then I'm open to it. But I'm building a life worth living for now. Single or otherwise Smile

I just cooked a roast chicken dinner for myself when I usually wouldn't bother just for me and I'm inordinately pleased with myself 😂

@KLS02 I'm so glad you've got good support. And being able to choose a name all on your own must be so liberating too! Ds is so called because its the only name we both agreed on... Confused

lifegoes · 02/03/2020 20:12

I'm with you there @Misty9 I feel I could date again but I really can't be bothered to. I couldn't bare to start with OLD and pointless chit chat.

Some great points made by all on the FWB. I really think it would suit me. I've had one which was great and it just drifted apart due to life. But we still chat now and again. Then another that (similar to you @Eesha ) I thought I had feelings for but I didn't, I only realised that after I ended it all. That actually I didn't, it was him showing me attention that I liked. And that also clouded my judgement on his behaviour and how he actually treated me. Something I've worked on since.

So whilst I think I'm ready to date again, I really enjoy my single life now (apart from the blip at the weekend).

Upyerbum70 · 02/03/2020 21:43

Argh. Damn and blast. I’ve been casually checking Guardian Soulmates dating app even though my profile is - and will remain - hidden. Mr Hewish hasn’t been on fir months (since we met). But tonight it shows he’s been on today.

Now I’m properly pissed off.

Upyerbum70 · 02/03/2020 21:44

Mr Jewish. Not bloody Hewish

mildlymiffed · 02/03/2020 22:12

@Upyerbum70 shit. I'm sorry 😐. Bet that stings a bit... take a bit of time to lick your wounds. Look after yourself. Watch something funny on the telly. Genuinely be kind to yourself. Even though we are of course infinitely tough and all that- seeing that will smart a bit. He's a douchebag. Let him now be someone else's problem, as he will inevitably end up in another similar situation...Thanks

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Itsallpointless · 03/03/2020 03:40

@Upyerbum70 sorry about Mr J, that's the thing with OLD, it can knock the stuffing out of you eh? You don't know what's going on with him though, so he may be looking to see if you've been online.

SirChing · 03/03/2020 08:25

Morning peeps! Hope all you lovely ladies have a good day planned?

Oh @Upyerbum70 that sucks about Mr Jewish. Dont do what I did with a guy on OLD who messed me about. I saw him back on there and before I knew it, my fingers had typed out a sarcastic message, like a stalkery loon with no dignity. I wasn't even pissed! Just had a red mist of fury descend that his "not ready to date" had clearly been lies. He, rightly, blocked me. Which was actually good (and deeply humiliating) as I couldn't see his profile anymore so couldn't torture myself.
So - don't be me! Unless you want blocking! Blush

@Misty9 - wow, go you doing a chicken for yourself. I need to follow your lead and eat more healthily and care for myself better. I am a crap cook though. But now seems as good a time as any to learn.

@mildlymiffed oooh I haven't heard of sex education. I shall give it a go. Watching funny things are good for the soul. C'mon lets see a pic of the lamp. I adore that you talk about it with the same enthusiasm that @Eesha talks about her FWB Grin

@KLS02 and others who fancy a FWB - I think the trick is to NOT go for your usual type. If you choose someone who you fancy but would never pursue a relationship with, then it sort of keeps you safe. My FWB is lovely and I do have warm fuzzy feelings towards him, but it isn't love just friendship and like. I would die a thousand deaths if he wanted a relationship. He has several deal breakers so therefore feels safe. @Eesha you sound like you have found your self a decent one!

@Itsallpointless I bet you could pull it you wanted to. You are possibly sending out "fuck off, I can't be arsed with your pillocky gender" vibes maybe? And anyway, you won't end up alone eaten by Alsations because you and anyone who wants to can come and live on my commune. Was thinking that if we put a man's head on a stake at the top of the driveway, would that get the point across to menfolk who were tempted to chance their arm with us?

@lifegoes and anyone else who feels lonely sometimes - I think it's totally normal. As I said on the last thread, the loneliness is never as soul destroying as being lonely IN a relationship. I tend to ring my best mate when I feel lonely, or call my exH for a chat which reminds me why I prefer being single. Or find something on MN to get disproportionately furious about Grin

@Itsallpointless I get why your are irked that your exes life has fallen into place. You could always do a faked letter to him from an STD clinic or the CSA to add a bit of excitement to his new relationship? But apparently the police aren't keen on that (meanies). I think I would just trust in karma - in time it may catch up with him in the form of early erectile dysfunction due to him using it too much earlier in life! That would be less of an aubergine 🍆 and more of a banana emoji needed Grin

@Sally99 Welcome! Your ex sounds like a cowardly bastard. Ending the relationship without ending it so that you end up being the one who pulls the plug. Why do men do this? Wet fuckers! Still, on a positive note, once the initial hurt is over, it means you tend to look back and never wonder what could have been. As the cowardice is so mind bendingly unattractive that they become repulsive to you. So he did you a favour in that regard. It turned out mine was shagging someone else. To be honest, I was so repulsed by his behaviour that I couldn't have given a shit - he made my skin crawl regardless. Men like that are too pathetic to be friends after as you become a living reminder of their own cowardice and they can't cope with it (poor fucking lambs! Hmm). I do hope you are ok? He has shown you who he is and actually done you a huge favour - you may not have realised he was a spineless jellyfish (sorry jellyfish) for ages otherwise. I am glad you found out motley gang of thread-esses to hang out with Flowers

Hope things feel better today @bibliomania? My bosom has dried out so all ready for fresh cuddles and tears if needed. I can also provide cake, tea, books, blankets and a comforting (yet gobshitingly noisy) cat to stroke. If anyone else needs some TLC, feel free to come too. The virtual chairs are self replicating as needed Flowers

Now, I have to tell you about my dream last night. You know how you are meant to only be able to dream about men you know? Well I keep having a bloke I don't know pop up in my dreams. He is about 6'5", brown hair, muscly but not in a gym bunny way, gorgeous smile and twinkly eyes. Last night he was a policeman I had met who I was having a fling with. He was bloody good! But who the fuck IS he? I haven't seen anyone in real life or on telly or dating sites or anywhere that looks like him. Most bizarre. Maybe he is the dream version of my ideal man. If I ever do meet him in real life, I will be like the witch in the Wizard of Oz and just hiss and melt in a flood of my own making! Grin

Eesha · 03/03/2020 10:34

@SirChing you're so funny and write so well. I now at your alter!!!

@Upyerbum70 sorry to hear about Mr Jewish. Onwards and upwards and just ignore!

@lifegoes good to see you here and that you are taking care of yourself. I think sometimes it seems like everyone is dating but actually it's just people on one big merrygo round and sometimes you need time out to remember how great you are. One thing I keep in mind is that I never want to let a man make me second guess my worth. Everyone here seems strong in their own right.

Sally99 · 03/03/2020 11:13

What a lovely supportive thread this is and thank you for all your kind words.

What makes me laugh is that it's called the Happy Singleton but here we are talking about dating and a lot of us not feeling so happy alone!

I seem to be attracted to bastards so think I may invest in that book "Women who love too much" which was either mentioned on this thread or another.

The trouble is although I'm basically very happy on my own, Mother Nature has programmed me to be attracted to men and to seek them out.

Btw, how do I use the emoticons on here please - I never have figured it out!?!

lifegoes · 03/03/2020 11:20

Yeah I agree with that @Eesha that's exactly what I'm doing too. Remembering I am good enough so that it stops the seeking validation from men who are no good for me. I've never had issues previously, but last year taught me a lot about me.

Yeah that's what I did @SirChing I found myself reading a book and suddenly I thought how lovely is it, that I've got this tome to enjoy a book and not have to think about texting a guy or wonder what they are doing etc.

@Sally99 one book I always recommend is mr unavailable and the fallback girl. Because it really highlights different men, their behaviours. But also a lot about yourself and why you are attracted to these men. I found it useful and I know loads have too.

Feeling lonely is a strange one, because I do think it's natural to have those blips and feel it. I've also been in a relationship an felt lonely. I've been in relationships and felt horrific by how I was being treated. So I often remind myself of that. I'd rather have small blips of feeling lonely and be on this thread. Than go through the minefield of dating and feeling awful.

I've decided I'm going to have a good clear out this weekend. I do love a trip to the tip 😂😂😂😂

SirChing · 03/03/2020 11:27

@Eesha Aw thanks Blush I don't think the people I am currently arguing with on other threads share your appreciation Grin

@Sally99 Hi! For emojis there is a smiley face under the text box if you are on the mobile site. If you press on that, all the emojis come up and you just press the one you want to use. Ta-da! Then, if you are like me, you still manage to fuck it up sometimes anyway Grin

Its ok to be sad sometimes about being alone. But I honestly believe that it isn't until we learn to feel happy, content and whole on out own, that we will attract the relationship that is right for us. Not being bothered about a relationship and beong happy without one means we are far less likely to overlook bad attributes, give the benefit of the doubt too much, or settle. Because we are fine on our own, we will only want a relationship that adds to our life and makes us happier. Whereas when we want a relationship, it can make us a bit blind to the failings of others and we can forgive and accept too much to avoid being alone.

Plus, being alone is bloody marvellous when you get used to it. When I first split with exH I was terrified and didnt want to ve alone. So I rebounded into a totally inappropriate relationship. When that ended, I did online dating which was varying levels of disastrous. Then one day I realised I am genuinely happy on my own and can't actually be arsed with a relationship. They are hard work. And you don't get to lay like a starfish in bed with hairy legs watching whatever crap you want on telly. I am a convert! In the future a relstionship may be nice, but he would have to be bloody exceptional to make me happier than I am. Why settle for less?

Sorry, that was a massive me-rail. I just wanted to offer hope from the other side of how you feel Flowers

KLS02 · 03/03/2020 13:17

@Misty9 that’s the plus side of having both of my DC’s dad leave halfway through the pregnancy, they’ve both had my favourite names :).

sorry about Mr Jewish @Upyerbum70

@SirChing great advice regarding FWB!

i will properly catch up later

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Upyerbum70 · 03/03/2020 13:41

@shitwithsugaron - yeah we probably all know the feeling you describe. It’s hard when you’re used to interactions and they end.

Hope pure feeling better and your hospital stay - and get into the swing of recognising that there are good bits to being on your own . Took me a very long time to stop making two cups of tea... but now my teabags last twice as long!!!! Bonus.

You have the people on this thread to check in with when it gets quiet (and the tv is rubbish).

Mulberry974 · 03/03/2020 13:56

Of course in addition to those who are taking time out to build themselves up or putting themselves first for a while there are people like me. Not only do I feel currently too damaged by the end of my marriage 3 years ago to want to be in a relationship any time soon (and being pretty good with my own company) I've got the added thing of just not being the kind of person who gets many offers or dates.

Before I met my ex I had only had one other boyfriend years beforehand. This hasn't changed regardless in fluctuations of weight or self-confidence. I'm in the situation where I'm assuming I will stay single if not forever then for a long time.

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Mulberry974 · 03/03/2020 14:10

@shitwithsugaron Ha I know the feeling, when I was younger my friends were all really pretty and confident, and I was the one chatting to the men about music and films and things I loved. And making yet more male friends who saw me as an honorary man! Grin

Upyerbum70 · 03/03/2020 15:03

@shitwithsugaron I’m sure you’re just as gorgeous as your friends! I used to do well for collecting admirers when I was younger but no chance now. Never, ever get approached which sometimes makes me feel like wallpaper. Just there. That’s what being old does to you - it does smart a bit.

The thing with OLD is it will always be there (and mostly the same faces!) So there’s no rush.

@SirChing I work in your ‘dream’
environment and, believe you me, if he existed in my workplace I wouldn’t get much work done. Sounds heavenly. I dream about boring stuff ...like cardigans.

lifegoes · 03/03/2020 16:42

I love your posts @SirChing I absolutely agree, I've spent many years on my own and when I look back that's when some of the best memories have occurred and when some of my good relationships have started. If I look at last year, I was constantly going back to OLD when something didn't go well, or dates went bad etc. I never stopped to understand why. It was like I was just trying to fill a void of what the previous person had left. (Could even just be the miss of texting, but mainly the sex tho 😂)

I do love this thread, because it keeps me happy knowing I'm on the right path with some amazing people on here

Hello my lovely @shitwithsugaron I'm so sorry to hear this news, I actually read your post before I typed the above. But I actually think it could relate to what you said. This was me last year, I was just trying to fill a void when something ended. I've really found time on my own has helped. I'm not going to lie it was hard at the start and I actually didn't want to go back on the dating thread because it was just a reminder of what I didn't have. (To the point where I was reading others and thinking maybe I should just tolerate this stuff etc) I do hope you are ok tho.

Eesha · 03/03/2020 16:57

@lifegoes I'm loving this thread too. So many positive single experiences. I think with the dating thread, there is a combination of people looking and people in existing relationships giving advice which in turn is a reminder of what the first lot don't have. It can get a bit disheartening if you aren't meeting anyone and others are meeting loads.

@SirChing I'm really becoming happier in myself, which is how I was pre abusive ex. I totally think it's the best way to be. This year I have lots I want to achieve, won't be easy but in a way I'm glad I'm doing it alone so I can test myself.

Username109876 · 03/03/2020 18:09

I am 28 and haven't had a long-term relationship for 5 years, but have had several short-term 'relationships' in that time.
The last one ended in September and I haven't dated since then. Honestly out of everyone I know, they are either with someone or looking for someone on the apps . I am the only person I know who is choosing to be single.
I've been on and off dating apps for a while but I haven't bothered in ages. I actually feel happy. I was in a bad place before Xmas because of the last guy I dated, but I feel so much happier, more confident and stronger.
There is nothing wrong whatsoever with being single, no shame in it, it's great and has so many advantages. I know it's probably different for me as I don't want to have children, but having a relationship doesn't mean your life is complete, you've made it in life, you are more attractive, derisable nor will you be happier necessarily.

mildlymiffed · 03/03/2020 19:26

Hello you gorgeous lot! And welcome to @shitwithsugaron. My only advice that I am trying to equally adhere to is to step away from the dating apps... when I am even a teeny bit tempted I think of the vile messages that used to come through. You now have us to lean on. I swear this thread has got me out of a dark place.

@mulberry974 I never get approached by blokes. I think looks wise, I'm very plain. But I think I also exude a piss off, don't mess with me. I work in a very male dominated industry- and spend a lot of time with a hard hat on. Don't think it does much for sex appeal. I've also got quite a cutting approach, so I can understand why they're not queuing up!

So... @sirching especially for you... here is the lampshade. Fuck sex... my house beautification has become my nirvana!

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mildlymiffed · 03/03/2020 19:29

This time with photo!

The Happy Singleton- Part Two
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undercoveraessedai · 03/03/2020 19:35

Hello ladies! You are balm to the soul after fighting with... not men, but tech! For bloody weeks it feels like 😂

Love that we filled a whole thread up and looking forward to this one.

Welcome new souls!