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Was your affair worth it in the end?

201 replies

moomoomummy · 18/01/2020 12:18

A friend was sharing with me today the extent of the fallout following her affair. The children with anxiety and mental health issues. The messiness of her situation now. So I ask how many of you who are years down the line after an affair. Do you regret it? Would you change the course of events if you could?

OP posts:
Somanysocks · 21/01/2020 12:55

Lots of selfish disgusting hypocrites here. Do as you would be done by.

TheMovingFishfinger · 21/01/2020 13:09

@StLucia4 I did see him every weekend, and still visit him occasionally. He is my dad even though he was a crap husband and i still feel anger over the whole thing. Mostly i try not to think about the past but threads like this one bring it all back.

As for the OW, yes they are still together. He married her a few years after the divorce and have a child together. Whether they are in love and ever so happy i don't know. My gut feelings says no but who knows.

HepburnKNotA · 21/01/2020 13:18

Speaking as someone who was a child when my father had an affair (with my mum's best friend, who was also the mother of MY best friend... nice one) I don't think an affair is ever 'worth it' if there are children involved on either side.

Me and my siblings are all in our own different ways fairly screwed-up people, I've had a lot of therapy which has helped but the fallout from my dad's affair (my parents did stay together but it was hideous for years) has left me with ongoing aggression/anger issues and I lose my temper and lash out at my partner (occaisonally even my DD) more than I should. Witnessing my parents (especailly my mum, who was the wronged party) having screaming rows on a daily basis and the instability of our home life for those years has taken its toll.

My brother also has anger issues and a very very toxic relationship with his partner, who herself had a cheating father.

My sister married the first boyfriend she had and their relationship is very distant. Again, I cannot help but see this as a result of our screwed-up attitude to relationships.

Even if our personality issues were not directly caused by the affair and the fallout, it was an absolutely fucking hideous 203 years of my adolescence which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Yes, my parents handled it spectacularly badly (I would like to think that most cheaters and cheatees shield their kids from the rows and the horrible details of extra-marital affairs whereas my parents, my mum in particular, seemed to feel no qalms whatsoever about screaming at each other, evn with sordid details, in front of us) but even so, the impact of a cheating parent is huge.

No, it can never be worth it, not when there are children involved. Divorce is better. Cheating is horrific.

HepburnKNotA · 21/01/2020 13:19

2-3 years, not 203 years!!! I'm not THAT old Grin

HumousWhereTheHeartIs · 21/01/2020 13:55

I don't regret having a sort of emotional affair.
My ExDH was financially and emotionally abusive. I had no confidence, was on anti-depressants and felt completely stuck and helpless. Then I met someone who was nice to me, listened, talked and helped me see that there was life beyond my marriage. Nothing physical happened but I needed to know there were nice, caring people out there. I left my ExDH and haven't been unhappy since. I haven't spoken to this man since left.

bigchris · 21/01/2020 14:00

So you say

So yeah my dad can fuck right off along with the OW.*

But you still see them ?

SandyY2K · 21/01/2020 14:02

@Redannie118

Why did you put up with all that abuse?

Insulting you in front of your kids...repeated infidelity!

You should have left him long before you had an affair...but your self worth and self respect must have been below zero.

Redannie118 · 21/01/2020 14:26

This reply has been withdrawn

The OP has privacy concerns, and so we've agreed to take this down now.

TheMovingFishfinger · 21/01/2020 20:06

@bigchris
I see them about once a year as an adult (obviously more when I was a child)that doesn't mean I am not bitter/angry about all the drama back then. I did go NC with them in my early 20s for a bit but build the bridges back for my half sibling as I wanted to try and have a relationship with said sibling.

As for my sentence you copied pasted, sorry must have been a bit confusing I didn't mean it as I don't see them I meant it and typed it in the heat of the moment. I hope that makes sense.

Ejkipb · 21/01/2020 22:02

My favourite comment of the post so far! I had a similar situation, except it was my mum and my ex (childrens dad) having the affair. Knowing what harm it would cause our children ( her grandchildren ) there is no reasoning with 'why it happened' or 'justifying it' I agree that it is entirely possible to fall for someone else whilst you are in a relationship, you cannot help how you feel. Yet you can help how you deal with those new found feelings, and how they affect the people around you.

She was just the icing on top of the cake... his way 'to hurt me' was how he put it....because I broke things off after finding out he was cheating with numbers of OW. His excuse was that I worked and had a young child too (pregnant with 2nd) so we didn't spend enough time together. Bullshit on my part. Selfish and cruel in my opinion. The time I needed him most and his support and he was elsewhere giving it out in buckets. Genuinely scared me for life and affects my current relationship.

Happygirl79 · 21/01/2020 22:24

If you are unhappy in your relationship then finish it
Then and only then seek another
The pain you give your OH and children by having an affair is unforgiveable
Finish one relationship before seeking another
Be accountable for your actions
Sorry but that's how I see it

Somanysocks · 21/01/2020 22:53

@Happygirl79 you are completely right.

stuffedpeppers · 21/01/2020 23:34

Only those who have never been married and had their partner cheat on them - truly understand the absolute feeling of betrayal, worthlessness and gut wrenching pain when you realise the person you loved and trusted has stabbed you in the back front side and anywhere else in between.

To the cheaters - NOTHING ever justifies your actions. Grow the fuck up. Does not matter if you have been married longer - it is not a fucking competition. You and your fellow cheater, destroyed someone else. You were prepared for the fall out, you planned it, you knew what to do - the innocent are expected to suck it up, move on at the same pace as the cheaters and be bigger people - really really simple.

i have moved on but there is always a tiny bit of self doubt that it will happen again. The loss of that security is the cheaters fault and it never leaves you.

jimmyjammy001 · 22/01/2020 00:36

Yes I also agree people who cheat are scum, no matter how much they try and justify their actions, you should end it first and then go and look for 'the one' not have flings whilst still with a partner so to fall back on if your affair doesn't work out. If I was dating someone had they told me they had cheated and it broke up a previous relationship I would not be seeing them any more regardless of the excuses. People need to give cheaters a hard time, they deserve to let them know that it is not acceptable and that their are consequences to their actions, even loosing friends as a result.

onemorecupofcoffeefortheroad · 22/01/2020 06:50

I knew I was being cheated on by my ex-H but chose to ignore it. He travelled a lot internationally with work. I knew there would be temptations as he was an attractive and powerful man. Whereas I was a mum at home with two small children. I just asked that he didn't, out of a guilty conscience, feel he had to confess anything to me. I didn't want to know.

Although that seemed like a good plan to get through those difficult years of having young children and his being away a lot ultimately it meant we grew apart and became emotionally distanced from each other.

Then I met someone who I became emotionally involved with - as soon as it became obvs that we wanted it to be more than a friendship and this was a threat to my marriage, contrary to what I had asked my DH to do, I was honest and told him.

He took it badly and we entered a period where he decided not to travel so much, scaled back his work, took a role that meant he was based in the EU, and kept close tabs on me etc. But it was too late - my heart and mind were elsewhere by then.

We entered a miserable time when all I wanted was to be with the other person.
Sometimes I think I should have lived by my own doctrine but, ironically, I felt it was important to be honest about my feelings.

He knew my heart wasn't wasn't with him anymore, there were no screaming rows, just many heart-to-hearts, apologies and tears. It was a terribly sad time. He suggested an open marriage but where we were honest and open (as the not being honest and open hadn't worked) but that wasn't what I wanted - I just wanted to be with the other person I was in love with.

I then found out that he was sleeping with one of his co-workers. A young high-flyer with the company. I understood why but what annoyed me was when I gently asked him (no judgement) about it he didn't deny but refused to discuss it. Stormed off in a huff.

Eventually he left the marital home and moved abroad. It was a huge relief. I am now married to the person I fell in love with and he is in a committed relationship with someone else (not the high-flyer).

I do regret the hurt and I regret the breakdown of our little family - although new partner is a brilliant step-parent and helped me raise the children like their own. I tried to handle a very difficult situation as best as I could at the time.

My ex and I are friends now and in fact recently went out for dinner with our 'new' partners (although I've been with mine 13 years and he's been with his for 9 now so hardly new anymore), our now grown-up children and some mutual friends.

People will always have affairs, I knew that when I got married - people will always cheat, it's a fact of life and has happened since the beginning of time. In a way the physical act of him sleeping elsewhere didn't bother me but what ultimately broke us up was how we became emotionally distanced from each other.

Musmerian · 22/01/2020 07:23

It’s like an episode of Eastenders on here. All the hyperbole, righteous indignation and smugness. I don’t know why anyone bothers trying to have a thoughtful conversation about this on here. Any nuance is drowned out by those whose rigid views don’t allow for different situations and real life.

onemorecupofcoffeefortheroad · 22/01/2020 07:37

All the hyperbole, righteous indignation and smugness. I don’t know why anyone bothers trying to have a thoughtful conversation about this on here

Couldn't agree more - the vitriolic language used about anyone, regardless of the circumstances, who has had an affair ('scum' for example) is nuts.

As per my above post I've been 'cheated' on but I know as soon as I enter into a relationship with another human being, being cheated on is a risk I choose to take. It goes with the territory.

I really hope my current partner doesn't cheat on me but there are never any guarantees. People change, people have their heads turned. I try and be vigilant and be the best partner I can be but I'm also realistic about the risks.

TheStuffedPenguin · 22/01/2020 07:38

@stuffedpeppers

spot on !

PhoneLock · 22/01/2020 07:41

I voted YANBU because you can break up with someone for whatever reason you want, you don’t need permission

I see comment's like the one above often on MN. It seems to be standard advice when somebody wants to leave a relationship. The hurt and misery that the break up might cause to other parties: partner, children etc. never seems to be considered.

The response is rather different when that "any reason" is because you fancy Kevin from accounts.

Why?

PhoneLock · 22/01/2020 07:43

Ugh! Please ignore the stupid iPad generated punctuation and spelling errors.

FaFoutis · 22/01/2020 07:46

My mother had an affair. it fucked up my father and her three children permanently (not that anyone noticed the state of the children, as a pp has said). It meant that she had little relationship with her grandchildren and that she now lives in poverty. She married the man she had an affair with and he beat her up fairly often.
I think she might regret it.

Improvementsunderway · 22/01/2020 07:55

am i the only one that's intrigued by the OP?!?!?! He died on holiday with the OW?!?!?!?! WTF! Your poor friend!!!! Bless her, did she not have a clue about he affair? And then to lose him....I can't begin to imagine what she must be goin through...

Upherefordancing · 22/01/2020 08:46

Improvements it sounds like the friend was the OW not the wife.

Fochit · 22/01/2020 08:47

Improvementsunderway

I’m not convinced the friend isn’t the OW.

Fochit · 22/01/2020 08:47

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