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it's all gone wrong again - so unhappy

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neednewbag · 24/08/2007 18:56

Well , don't really know where to start. dh and i have had terrible rows in the past, lots of shouting, swearing and violence from both of us in the past. No violence from either of us for years now and i hope to god it never happens again. he knows if it did, it's over. we still have the most vile arguments which normally start with tivial things and it normally ends in me getting upset about how he's spoken to me or what he's said. he frightens me when he shouts which he knows, but doesn't seen to be able to stop - he said it's what he does when he's angry or frustrated. i've been on ADs for the last year and the arguments haven't been quite so bad - i don't overreact so much and sometime find it easier to make up. I've been cutting down on my ads as they're making me put on weight. i told him yesterday and we ended up arguing in the evening. i went mad over something silly and he shouted"this is what happens when you stop the pills" he thinks i used the fact that he knew i was cutting down to test to see if he'd give me special treatment - maybe that's true? we've had a miserable day and aren't speaking now. i told him last night that i'm not going to discuss what i do with the ADs anymore so if i cut down again, he won't know, then i can't expect any special treatment. I hate him for wha he said yesterday and for how nasty he's been to me today. we were supposed to be going to the zoo but because of last night i felt bad today. he said he's take ds on this own, which upset me as ds has never been to the zoo before. so i made myself get up and go with them but we hardly spoke ,apart from to ds all the time we were out. he tried to hold my hand when we were out and i said why would you want to do that it you dislike me so much. He said he didn't dislkie me but i told him i felt he despised me. he told me to shut up and walked off. please help, someone

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BandofMothers · 25/08/2007 21:55

I think you both need to sit down while sober and calm and discuss your problems rationally. It's the only way to do it. You can't do it during or after an argument, or if there is any alcohol involved.

If you discuss it calmly he may take it seriously as it's not being blurted out in the heat of an argument.

divastrop · 25/08/2007 22:00

i wouldnt personally say he was being abusive as it sounds like you are both very similar(co-dependant?).i think you should see your gp about a different ad,as it can help enormously.explain your concerns about weight gain(i find female gp's are more sympathetic to this issue).

my dp never says anything to me about my medication,but i talk to him about it anyway,like when i felt the last one i was on wasnt working i asked him to come to the docs with me.when i got a new med i let him read the patient info and explained i could go more loopy etc.

i think some form of councelling or anything could really help,even if its just you.you can easily pass on your new communication skills without your dh even noticing

neednewbag · 25/08/2007 22:01

i think my dh lapses into this nastiness because his dad talks to his mum in a very disrespectful way sometimes, so i suppose he's got used to it being accecetable for men ot talk to women this way. however i've told him so many times that he's rude, but it never stops, well maybe for a week or so. he doesn't seem to understand that some boundaries shouln't be crossed. but maybe as i know what he's like i shouldn't take more care when i know he' wound up?

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BandofMothers · 25/08/2007 22:12

Would he want someone talking to his daughter that way??? If you have one, or theoretically???

Tell him it may be ok for his mum but you wont put up with it.
You have to make him see that it isn't ok. Be firm and forceful. MAKE him realise you are serious, or he will keep on doing it.

BandofMothers · 25/08/2007 22:12

I told DH outright, that I don't care who else he talks to like that he will NOT talk that way to me.

neednewbag · 25/08/2007 22:13

just went to tell him what the general opinon was on here - he got angry and defensive and told me to go away. i was hpoing he might show some remorse - but i was wrong

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BandofMothers · 25/08/2007 22:13

You could try just ignoring him when he does it. Absolutley blank him, as if he isn;'t even there.

BandofMothers · 25/08/2007 22:14

Hmm, perhaps not best to tell him that all the cronies on MN think he's an arse. Plus now not the time, has he had some beers???

Get him when he's sober, not hungover, and in a fairly reasonable mood.

neednewbag · 25/08/2007 22:15

how on earth i do make him see that i'm serios though? i feel like i've tried everything, aaprt from leavimg him

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neednewbag · 25/08/2007 22:17

the ignoring him idea is a good one - haven't tried that yet. willl be an effort but will give it a try.

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divastrop · 25/08/2007 22:20

'but maybe as i know what he's like i shouldn't take more care when i know he' wound up? '

no,that is no way to live your life.if you are scared of him then i was wrong,he is being abusive.

i think the ignoring is a good idea.just tell him once that you will no longer tolerate being spoken to like crap.if he gets wound up,then you will know you have done nothing wrong and its his problem that he has to deal with.

BandofMothers · 25/08/2007 22:21

Look him right in the eye, don't flirt around it. Don't smile, tell him calmly ands seriously that you wont put up with it any more. No more warnings, no more sweeping it under the rug. If he keeps doing it you'll leave.

divastrop · 25/08/2007 22:22

IME you cant tell a man anything.they just switch their brains off when a woman starts talking about something they dont want to listen to.when you say youve tried everything,what have you tried?

neednewbag · 25/08/2007 22:25

yes, you're right i am scared of him sometimes.

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neednewbag · 25/08/2007 22:26

i feel pathetic

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neednewbag · 25/08/2007 22:27

he's really angry now - just come and said he's going to bed. gone to the spare room in a really bad mood

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divastrop · 25/08/2007 22:35

just leave him to calm down and talk to him when hes in a better mood.

you are not pathetic-you are upset.you are scared because there has been violence in the past,its understandable.

neednewbag · 26/08/2007 08:32

i told him that maybe he shoud come to docs with me, got really anry and i hit him and he hit me back. told him it's over now

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neednewbag · 26/08/2007 09:26

just packed mine adn ds's things and going to go to stay at my mums

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EscapeFrom · 26/08/2007 09:27

You can't stay with him any more. He needs to leave. You need to protect your children from domestic violence in the home - and it does sound like you are both the perpetrators.

EscapeFrom · 26/08/2007 09:29

That is pobably the best thing you can do for now, NNB. have a calm down at your mum's and then see what your rights are regarding the house

neednewbag · 26/08/2007 10:11

he said he was sorry we argued this morning and asked how long i was going to my mums for. told him i didn't know. we'd have to sell the house i guess, really scared about what happens next

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ernest · 26/08/2007 10:12

does he know it's over, or does he think you're just going to your mum's for a few days?

neednewbag · 26/08/2007 10:29

i've sadi the past if he ever hit me it would be over. i don't know what he thinks will happen, and nor do i. trouble is he can be such a lovling husband, sometimes but so cold and spiteful othr times, he also adores ds and loves spending time with him .

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neednewbag · 26/08/2007 10:45

he's just send me a text to say it wasn't anger i saw in him yesterday, but fear that i would do something to split us up

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