Do men prefer submissive and obedient women?

[Swlondon123]

My current boyfriend's longest relationship was 6 years with a woman who worshipped the ground he walked on. I am more assertive and argumentative and I think it's more difficult for me to sustain a realtionship than other women.

I wish I was more obedient as although feminism and equality have become the norm nature is still sexist and men prefer to have a leading role in a relationship. Do you agree with this?

I wish I could bite my tongue, but I am too damn opinionated for my own good which I think is causing realtionship failures on my part.

Is the best way to sustain a realtionship through submissiveness and obedience? Can I please have some thoughts on this matter?

So assertive women can't worship their partner?
I'm very headstrong, independent and a strong woman and I adore my husband and love him to bits.
He doesn't take advantage of this because we are equal and he respects women.

I've dated some horrendous men who are insecure and hate a woman who has an opinion.

Your wording of 'current' boyfriend is interesting, sounds like he's on his way out.
You have to be yourself

What the fuck? Obey hasn't been in the marriage vows for decades.

DH would be worried if I went all obedient on him. He also wouldn't have married me, and I wouldn't have married him if he'd expected that. I've also had quite a few boyfriends and none of them have ever wanted a subservient woman.

You can choose to use the word obey in your wedding vows, it's not illegal . My mum and dad did. My mum wanted to be all 17th century, traditional in her family church.... To this day she doesn't know why and neither do the family. She was 6 months pregnant at the time so not exactly traditional.

What the fuck? Obey hasn't been in the marriage vows for decades.
It's there as an option.

We chose not to, but it is an option.

Dh’s mum is a strong independent woman born in 1947. DH and his DB 1 both married similar women, 26 years later still marries. db3 married an adoring, stay at home, subservient woman. He’s just left her.

Whether a man prefers a doormat or not is irrelevant, I suspect the more equal partnership is the more successful.

Never heard of it before. I just twist the tops off. If it's tight I'll stretch a rubber band round it for extra grippage.

This needs to become its own topic in AIBU. Rubber band. Wow.

Is the best way to sustain a realtionship through submissiveness and obedience?

I think a relationship can work like that - but not a loving one. If two people love each other then they have to respect each other. I always feel sorry for men who express a shallow preference for ‘submissive’ or ‘obedient’ women - or women based on their looks, or even worse their ability to cook etc... these men have no idea what it is to feel true and meaningful love for someone.

depends on the man. don't change to please someone. boyfriends are a renewable resource.

So assertive women can't worship their partner
Is he the second coming?

Why the fuck would i worship any man or person really?

PanicAndRun calm down. It's just semantics.
God some people on here are brutal and just here to nit pick.
I think you know the point that is being made but you're chossing to pick on the words used.

Because language matters?

Because this thread had enough submissive and obedient without worship being thrown in?

Funny how you didn't say he also worships you.

PanicAndRun calm down

Oh Gods! Xena. My ideal woman.

PlasticPatty- they prefer dominant, powerful and capable women as a single wage isn't enough to sustain a family. I think it all boils down to finances.

So men that dont like submissive women, dont really feel that way, it's just down to finances that they put up with it?

Honestly, it sounds to me like you struggle in relationships and have decided this is the reason and that's it. Rather than looking at why your relationshop with someone the same as you and someone the opposite of you didnt work out.

Both me and dp were single and doing financially decent when we met. Neither of us had financial need to be in a relationship. Neither of us back down. Sometimes we agree to disagree. Sometimes either of us change our opinion because we just havent thought of things from a certain point of view.

Its equal. Earnings dont come into it.

Oh and also of you like submissive men that let you make all the decisions, how are you any different to the men who prefer submissive women?

Or is it ok, to you, for women to want submissive men simply by stating its feminism?

My husband loves that I have my own opinions and independence and we often have "healthy debates" if our opinions differ.

His brothers on the other hand, seem to only have relationships with wet wipes who have no/speak no opinion.

If a man wants an obedient woman, than he's not someone you want to be with.