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I love my partner but can't give him what he wants right now.

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Fishandchip · 19/11/2019 19:40

First time poster. Hi everyone, I’m just looking for some advice on my situation.

I’ve been with my partner for three years. We met on tinder. He’s 36, I’m 25 (it is relevant). No kids on either side. We hit it off instantly but after a few months the relationship became rocky as he lived two hours away from me. In the beginning we made time for each other, saw each other every weekend, did nice things together such as city breaks away, meals out etc. After a few months he told me it was all just too much for him, that he missed spending time with his friends and family on the weekends and he felt that everything was going too fast. I understood this and we agreed to see each other every other weekend instead.

He was in a 9 year relationship before me (split for two years before we met) and apparently he hardly ever saw his family and friends during that time as she was very controlling and didn’t like it when they spent time away from each other.
After knowing everything he’d been through in his previous relationship, I never wanted to make him feel the same way. I have to admit, I found it really hard only seeing him twice a month as we couldn’t see each other during the week as we both worked full time. I felt that it would be hard for the relationship to progress but we stuck it out and three years later we’re still together and very happy, well sort of.

I love him very much and he’s the perfect man for me. I can honestly see myself marrying him and having kids one day. He makes me laugh, smile, treats me like a queen. I trust him wholeheartedly. Everything that I want in a man, he is. We moved in together in August (I moved to him) as he has a very good job, but unfortunately the company that he works for doesn’t operate where I’m from so he wouldn’t of been able to relocate. This didn’t bother me though as I was happy to move to be with him.

Anyway, here’s the catch. Three months before we moved in together I took on a new job, for a company where I can really progress. It’s my first “proper” job so to speak. I’m earning a very good salary. All of my previous jobs were either minimum wage or just above so it’s a huge increase with the money side of things. I’m really enjoying it and can see myself staying here long term. The job is only a 90 minute commute all round which works well considering I’ve moved location.

As I said above, my partner has a very good job which he’s been in for around 13 years. He’s worked his way up over the years and as a result earns a very good salary also. He earns enough for us to live on comfortably without me having to work, but as I said I’m enjoying this job and want to carry on for at least the next 3-5 years to get the experience under my belt. When we met I lived alone, worked full time. I’ve always been independent since the age of 18 and I thought that’s what he loved about me.

Just after we moved in together, he started talking about having children. I explained to him that I didn’t think it was the best time to start trying for a baby as I had just started my new job and wanted to enjoy it and make some money to put towards our savings. It would also be difficult having a baby now as my job is full time, leaving the house at 7am and not getting home until 6pm and I wouldn’t be able to reduce my days once baby has arrived. I said that maybe we could start trying in a couple of years instead. He got really upset at this and started making comments such as that he didn’t want to be doing the school run at 50 etc. We’ve spoken about it a couple of times since then and he just keeps on saying how he doesn’t want to be an “old dad”. I’ve tried to put my point across and explain how I’m trying to build my own career and make my own money, like what he’s done over the last 13 years but he doesn’t understand. He just keeps on saying “I earn enough for you not to work”. He doesn’t understand that I want to make my own money and have a purpose outside of our relationship.

It’s really starting to affect our relationship as every time we have sex now he makes comments like “let me put a baby in you” etc. I know all he wants is for us to have a child and be a family but it’s just not the right time for me at the minute, after all I’m only 25. This is the first time the age gap has been a problem for us tbh. I just don’t know what to do at this point as I don’t think it’s unreasonable for him to want children, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable for me not to want them either. I’m not saying no to the idea, just not right now. It’s starting to cause tension between us and I think he’s starting to resent me because of it, he hasn’t actually said that, I can just sense it.

Looking back now it was really stupid that we didn’t talk more about it and what we both wanted before moving in together. The thought of having to break up because of this just makes me feel like shit, I honestly can’t imagine my life without him but I’m not sure what else we’re suppose to do if we can’t agree on this?

I’m not sure what I’m asking for really, maybe just a hand hold Sad

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Startingoveragain1 · 19/11/2019 21:26

Sorry love... what a crap situation... he is 36!!!! Hardly old at all! Wtf! My mum was 37 when she had me and both my parents have been present and perfect all the way into my 30s and for many years to come hopefully. Given that you're both young ( you much more so) i dont think its unreasonable for you to want to achieve some things before becoming a mum( which will most definitely affect your life , not his) if youre to stay he needs to see some reason and back down a bit. If he is gonna go down the childish "im gonna get one up on u every chance i get" way... he can do one. At the end of the day, women are left to do the family heavy liftin still. If he chose to leave u in a couple of years, youre gonna have to know you can do it by yourself (with a child on tow) . So dont get pregnant on purpose until youre confident you can do it alone. And dont let him be in a position where he can call all the shots (u stop working and start rearing) he seems quite controlling already.

HeyNotInMyName · 19/11/2019 21:28

He is expecting you to revert back to the 1950 woman position. SAHM, Looking after him and then maybe a few part time jobs that won’t mean he needs to step up. And he gets to decide always ‘as he is the ne who is earning all the money dont you know’
If he can’t understand that you are getting pleasure from Your job and it’s something important for you, your self confidence etc... then I wouod serioulsy reconsider the relationship.

Cocomobile · 19/11/2019 21:37

I agree with all PP; I would leave. He sounds controlling, and if you acquiesced to his pressure you would end up resenting him a lot. Most women make significant sacrifices to their careers to have children, even if they don’t intend to. My dh has always been supportive of my career but it’s still been a challenge, mostly due to me breastfeeding for 3y+ (and counting). If he had pressured me to get pregnant in the first place I would be MASSIVELY resentful of him and my life right now.

His age has nothing to do with his stubbornness; it’s just his nature. He has probably always been like this. Don’t use it as an excuse.

AtrociousCircumstance · 19/11/2019 21:43

You sound smart, switched on, your career is building up brilliantly.

All you need to do is free yourself from this controlling older man.

Honestly OP end this relationship. He wasn’t this OTT about kids until you’d moved in because it’s harder for you to say no now.

This is not someone who will bring you happiness.

Fishandchip · 19/11/2019 22:19

Hi guys, sorry for taking so long to get back to you all. I've been engrossed in watching I'm a celeb lol.

He went off to football training tonight so we haven't had a chance to talk properly about it yet but he did hug me and say all he cared about me was making me happy before he left. It was really random actually, I was cooking dinner and he just came out with it.

I think it was his way of saying sorry without actually saying sorry but I do agree we still need to have a proper talk about everything first. We don't have any plans for tomorrow night so I think once we're in from work we need to sit down and look at everything realistically as we both need to happy

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Fishandchip · 19/11/2019 22:19

As we both need to be happy**

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pog100 · 19/11/2019 22:27

Listen to all the comments here. All of them are telling you the same thing. One bloody hug does not reverse all the signs of his attitude to you. You really need to end this now.

ReanimatedSGB · 19/11/2019 22:28

Be careful how you handle this 'proper talk'. Don't be too surprised if it goes horribly wrong. He might blubber and wring his hands and talk about his trust issues and his wounded dick heart. But he might also get unpleasant if you don't immediately do as you're told and apologise for not having submitted already. You might be told that you are selfish, that you don't know what Real Love is, that you are hurting him.
You might get a slap, if the boohooing approach doesn't work. Because this man is a woman-hating shit, with an abusive agenda, and the sooner you get rid and move on, the better.

ankchious · 19/11/2019 22:32

Narcissistic abuse

Ohyesiam · 19/11/2019 22:33

It’s good that you value communication op, but if he can’t respect your wants because he likes things the way he likes them, you are really better off out.
He needs to agree to set aside the drip feed nagging about what he wants, and listen to you.

AtrociousCircumstance · 19/11/2019 22:48

Open communication is great. But beware charm and manipulation.

HundredMilesAnHour · 19/11/2019 22:57

This has red flags all over it. This isn't above his desire for a baby. THis is about him controlling you and making you dependent on him. You've already moved away for him. Now he wants you to give up your career. He'll tie you to him with babies and then the real problems will begin. Saying he doesn't want to be 'old dad' is bullshit. Don't fall for this. Run away OP!! As fast as you can! And until you do, make sure you double up on contraception or he will trap you forever.

holly40 · 19/11/2019 23:03

You've done well for yourself getting this great job - that is really fantastic. He should be pleased for you & supporting you in this.

But he's not. Either he is attempting to control you (its a slippery slope..and a few things you've mentioned are ringing alarm bells) OR you are just not in the right place at the right time for each other. If he genuinely wants a child now, as a priority, he should be able to go and find a relationship where that's what the other person wants too.
Either way.. it doesn't sound good. Don't lose sight of your own needs and wants - and take care.

Branleuse · 19/11/2019 23:05

Tread carefully. I think you are right to build your career before children. Youve got a fantastic career opportunity here and youd be a fool to give that up to have babies you dont even want yet, with a guy thats got more red flags than chairman Mao.

Quartz2208 · 19/11/2019 23:06

Op be realistic does he seem the type to be controlled, do his friends and family ever indicate he was kept away from them. Because it really does sound Asia he has rewritten the narrative and he was the controlling one

Quartz2208 · 19/11/2019 23:07

And as a means to control you by making you accept everything he says/does

Fishandchip · 19/11/2019 23:12

In regards to the ex girlfriend I have no idea @Quartz2208 tbh. I do believe some things that he's told me, maybe naively.

I hope this isn't too outing but supposedly she was from Scotland (not sure how they met) but that she didn't work and he paid for her to go to college/university to become a midwife. She is now doing really well for herself.

Supposedly when they were together she would start arguments for no reason, pick at little things and stop him from seeing his friends and family. I haven't actually spoken to his family about this as it just hasn't come up in conversation but he is very family oriented. Always around his mums house and loves being with his niece and nephew as his brother only lives down the road from us.

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Fishandchip · 19/11/2019 23:13

I think him being around his niece and nephew so much has made him panic and think about when he'll have kids etc. He's always said to me he wishes he wouldn't have wasted so many years with the ex.

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Costacoffeeplease · 19/11/2019 23:13

Let me put a baby in you? 🤮

How can you still find him attractive after that

Run

Quartz2208 · 19/11/2019 23:17

but so much of the narrative of your relationship has been set by this I bet you never pick up on things etc

And surely his family would have made comment. It’s telling you say some things

And isn’t the truth more likely to be she was simply a student midwife

Fishandchip · 19/11/2019 23:19

@Costacoffeeplease I agree it wasn't very sexy or romantic tbh although I wasn't really concentrating on what he was saying at the time lol

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Timetobegood · 19/11/2019 23:27

What will this serious talk look like?

Fishandchip · 19/11/2019 23:38

@Timetobegood I think I need to be honest with him and get my point across that I'm not ready yet to have children and that I'm not willing to compromise on that.

I would be happy to look at a timeline so to speak. I appreciate he may not want to have a baby at say 40 so rather than waiting 4 years maybe we could wait 2 instead.

The longer I'm in my job the more leeway I will have also. I can hardly go into a new job and ask for such flexibility a year down the line, but perhaps in 2-3 years things might be different. I will also have more experience under my belt in the specific work I'm doing so if this job couldn't be accommodating I could potentially search for the same role but part time hours instead.

He knows that if he's not happy he needs to leave and find someone else who wants the same things as him so I will reiterate that to him again. If he can't wait to have children then we will need to move on from each other as I'm not forcing myself to have children now, I will only be miserable if I do and possibly resent him in the future because of it.

What he doesn't realise is that he's done all the things that he's wanted to do, gone travelling, gone to festivals, enjoyed life, built up a career etc and I'm just trying to do the same thing. The age gap is hard.

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Stella8686 · 19/11/2019 23:46

Men can be really nice when they want something.

A controlling man will use all tactics to get what he wants

He set the twice a month schedule
He couldn't move
He wants kids
He wants to provide

You've already told him what you want. He didn't listen. Look after yourself, if your intent on staying with him, tell him you want to get married first, plan the wedding for a years time. But I would re-evaluate your relationship 25 is young you will give up more than you think to have a baby

wildcherries · 19/11/2019 23:51

You've already told him what you want. He didn't listen.

This is it in a nutshell. Keep it in mind, OP.

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