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Getting my DH back

449 replies

wXyZ123 · 01/11/2019 12:21

I have been with my DH for over 30 years, he has left me, I don’t think he is happy, I would like him to come back and I am frightened of being alone, this is my story, please help me.

As soon as I met my in-laws I felt intimidated by them. DH shared too much information with them, was too influenced by them, put them first and became melancholy after he saw them. I asked him not to see them, to keep away for as long as it took for things to improve. We had occasional contact which always upset us both.

After about 5 years we married, my parents were unwell and could not attend, I did not want DH’s family there.

After our children were born we saw DH’s sister, we all seemed to get on ok but the relationship fizzled out, DH says that was because there was always an “elephant in the room” – the broken relationship with his parents who even now I have only allowed to see our 18 year old children twice.

I was frustrated that rather than build a social life for us or to recognise the efforts I had made with his sister, DH seemed only to focus on what he did not have with his parents and sister.

Nine years ago, I discovered DH was seeing his parents and contacting his sister behind my back, I gave him an “us or them” ultimatum. Later I discovered I had breast cancer, my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility. Our already minimal sex life dropped to non-existent.

DH tried to broker a thaw in relationships, but all that happened was that he and I rowed, he never saw how hurt I was by his parent’s attitude to me , how frightened I was, only how we had wronged them and how he felt

Three years ago DH walked out, leaving me alone with our children. I let him have space but told him I could not cope unless there was a chance of reconciliation. He said there was, we met a few times, he said he felt he should return but did not want to.

After a year he seemed to want to return, but confessed to an affair with a former girlfriend I was devastated. DH and his parents justified his behaviour suggesting I was at least partly culpable. I wanted DH to be contrite and to break all contact with OW . DH wanted me to make returning appealing to him, to promise not to keep him from his parents and sister. Meanwhile OW would not let him go, threatened me with police action if I contacted her and suggested to the police that DH had been the victim of coercive control inflicted by me. As a result of the police threat and learning of the affair our children don’t want to see DH till the OW is out of the picture.

Now DH tells me that the guilt he feels at having only seen our children once in 3 years (and not at all since he confessed to his affair), at leaving me alone to do everything, at the sorrow he has inflicted, makes him want to return but that he loves OW.

I think DH is depressed and unhappy, that he should leave OW and then try to rebuild a life with me and our children. DH says he wishes he could; rewind time, had handled our differences better and had not got into the position he has.

How can I resolve this? I want the best for me, for DH and our children. When I tell DH how I blame OW he defends her, says its not her fault and that she was his life raft in time of need, that he would like us all (his parents, sister and OW) to be friends – I tell him that is cloud cuckoo land which seems to drive him back to OW

What should I do?

OP posts:
notapizzaeater · 02/11/2019 01:09

You're trying to justify your shocking behaviour, I really really dislike my in laws for lots of reasons but I encourage a relationship with them, imagine if this was your child and their partner was stopping you.

bookwormsforever · 02/11/2019 01:15

Cancer uis not caused by stress, your dh did not cause your cancer, and your oncologist has no business suggesting that.

You sound very controlling. So you cut contact with your in laws because you felt intimidated?? Your poor and dc.

Your relationship is over. Let your ex be and concentrate on yourself.

RainingFrogsAndHats · 02/11/2019 01:30

This thread will be zapped by the morning

VaggieMight · 02/11/2019 01:38

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Scbchl · 02/11/2019 01:39

Why has his sister got/considering legal proceedings against you also?

So when he was with you, you manipulated him into not having contact with his family and now hes left you have manipulated his children into not having contact with him. You are toxic.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 02/11/2019 02:20

FabbyChix I'm sorry you've had such a hard time. It's very upsetting to realise how blind abusers are to their own behaviour.

I really hoped this thread was a troll but as it's gone on I actually am more inclined to believe it. OP sounds similar to my DS's birth mum.

If you've never had a narcissist in your life it's hard to understand how utterly unhinged these people are, because they are very good at presenting their "game face" to most of the world.

The pastoral care leader at my DS's school actually apologised to DS for being taken in previously, after his birth mum flew into a narc rage fit during their last meeting. The words used were "she dropped her mask" and that's very fitting.

I would not piss on the woman if she were on fire.

He hasn't seen her in person for about 6 years and not spoken to her on the phone for about 2yrs. In fact the last time he spoke to her, she rang out of the blue whilst me and him were playing with our pets. He ended the call pretty abruptly saying "I can't talk now, I'll call you back later" then carefully put both the pets and his phone aside, then took a ball we were playing with and smashed it against the wall. I was so proud of him. (That phrase won't probably make sense unless you've had a child with impulse control issues.)

PumpkinPieAlibi · 02/11/2019 02:20

It doesn't really make sense responding here (hyprocritical of me to say, I know) but either OP is a troll so this whole thread is really a joke OR she really is who she says, in which case, nothing any sane persons says would matter.

Utterly and absolutely insane and abusive.

Welltroddenpath · 02/11/2019 02:30

Wow re the text. Did both you and dh swallow a thesaurus? I don’t know know half of those words but nice to see you threw in a “pls” and fuck as that’s more like my text exchanges. I imagine your thumbs must get very sore typing out such big words.

It’s too bonkers. No one talks like that. Maybe when they are lecturing in uni to English lit students.

Starlight456 · 02/11/2019 02:37

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PerkyPomPoms · 02/11/2019 02:51

What the actual fuck? You are beyond deluded. And those texts - nobody texts like that!

pinkboa · 02/11/2019 03:01

Get a fucking divorce it's been 3 years...

Leave that man alone! Ffs!

🗣 I hope he never returns. Jesus Christ you need help.

Wonderland18 · 02/11/2019 04:03

Surely this cannot be real? I’ve just spent an hour reading the full thread.

He sounds like an emotional abuse sufferer only offering to come back as it’s what he’s used to. Your guilting him, your manipulating him and your making all his indiscretions seem like unforgivable massive betrayals when you yourself have a fucking lot to be sorry to him for.

You started your monologue with him as 100% woe is me you must feel horrible about everything I’m doing as it’s all your fault. I know many unwell single mums who smash it and don’t manipulate and control their ex.

Your poor ex. Your poor children.

The way you reference them is disgusting, gaming and going to the gym is regular teenage behaviour as is looking for sex, do not fucking belittle them for that. Jesus let them live and love their lives.

Anotherlongdrive · 02/11/2019 04:28

Really?

You sent a text to your husband who left 3 years ago, to tell him your were tired, wet and cold and how sad you were at going back to an empty house?

If this is true you, you are very manipulative. Its clear he is trying to keep you on side.

Did I read that his sister also initated legal action? So 2 people have?

Why would his parents show concern for you? After the things you have done?

wXyZ123 · 02/11/2019 07:03

A year after I discovered about the OW and after having a couple of meetings with DH in which he appeared sad and implied he might come back to me I wrote to his parents, sister, the OW (via DH) with covering letter to DH.
DH later said he thought my letters not un reasonable - but it was the letter that prompted his sister to say that if I contacted her again she would initiate legal proceedings.
I know DH is not completely reconciled to having left me and the children, I wish I could somehow get him to have the courage to at least leave OW and get himself some space to rebuild his relationship with the children and perhaps me. He has said that he has not visited unannounced to see the children partly so as not to create a scene / upset them but also because he fears he would not leave, that speaks volumes to me, he must really want to come back or at least see some benefits for us all in doing so.
My cancer was real, I had a breast lump removed, chemo and radiotherapy about 9 years ago. my oncologist said what he said, there seems to be plenty of opinion supporting the argument that stress can be a causational factor and that it can militate against effective treatment . Yes my cancer appears to be in remission but I have lots of related issues and occasional scares such as the lump I have just found. I wish DH would show the care he says he has by spontaneously asking after me.
He has offered to come to stay over in the spare room every other week end ( he still works away during the week) to help out / build bridges but I declined that and anyway I don't think OW would really let him though he says she would.
I have had some counselling, I have spoken to friends - all are supportive and think DH and family have behaved appallingly especially with respect to OW. I know DH has had counselling and spoken to a few friends and a priest, they all side with him. I don't know what's what anymore so posted all this personal and unexpurgated shit to see what strangers thought.
I am so alone and frightened, Like DH I wish we could start over or at least be friends - but not while OW is on the scene - I will try to take the advice received, its painful. I see my self as much or more abused as abusing

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CornishCreation · 02/11/2019 07:06

Op I'm sure you weren't expecting everyone to be so negative towards you but you have to admit they are just being truthful when you can't see it, even though you may be hurting.
Maybe deep down your not all bad but for the sake of your mental wellbeing and everyone else involved you need to put this out of your mind and concentrate on building a relationship with your children and encourage them to have one with their dad.

The relationship is in the past and dh has moved on, you both need to accept this doesn't work and doesn't do either of you any good. I hope you find someone else and are happy but you will never be happy with him because what he needs to be happy won't make you happy and understanding this will help you move on.

Pippinsqueak · 02/11/2019 07:13

Wow I hate saying this but you are crazy!

Leave him alone

Get on with your life

Stop being a drama queen

MaybeitsMaybelline · 02/11/2019 07:16

I think you need to cut loose OP. Seek some therapy and maybe start a new life. There is so much wrong with most of what you have written. I feel for you because I don’t think you can see how you have behaved, he has enabled your poor behaviour for decades until he realised just how miserable her really was.

Let him go, start working on you.

Sweetpeach3 · 02/11/2019 07:19

You are beyond controlling
Cutting him off from his family is just WRONG weather you like them or not.
Their your children's grandparents for heavens sake! Instead of been such a bitch all them years ago you should of addressed the issue and sorted things if you wanted this happy picture perfect life, confronting problems is always better the to run from them and blame everyone else.
His parents probably didn't like you because they could see right through you. I am also surprised he stayed with you for as long as he did. He needs a medal by the sounds of it.
And blaming him speaking to his parents for you getting breast cancer is total bollocks Sorry to hear you had it but get a grip will you. What planet are you on?

Iv just came out of a controlling and cohesive relationship and he just got a 5 year restraining order and the main point was he stopped me seeing my family who I was close with- this is YOU!!!!!
So I apologise if I seem abrupt but wow. Iv just been in his shoes for 6 years an couldn't cope and my DXP has now got a restraining order and other offences against him and that's for 6 years. Imagine what you'd get for 30 years !

Sweetpeach3 · 02/11/2019 07:25

@Anotherlongdrive she won't divorce him as part of the control or if she does she will probably try to leave him with nothing but the clothes on his back (if he's lucky)
But the plus side is. If he files for divorce on the grounds of controlling and cohersive behaviour she is given a different term. She will only have a few weeks to return the paper work otherwise it will go to court an can be done without her being their as she has then refused to divorce this poor man as part of the control she has on him (that's if he took this route)
And If I'm correct that is but I'm sure this is all the new rulings
My DXP got divorced and she wouldn't sign at first then the solicitor said he can take her to court and if she doesn't turn up it can be done without her being their as she's refused an that was after 12 months of marriage and then divorce proceeded on the 1 year anniversary!
But yea it can be done pretty swiftly even if she refuses x

Angelf1sh · 02/11/2019 07:31

Are you translating those texts from a foreign language? Because nobody talks like that outside of Tolstoy or Dostoevsky.

And why are you referring to yourself as OP? It makes it sound like you’re making the whole thing up.

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Ginger1982 · 02/11/2019 07:35

"OP to DH Are you having a fun weekend? I am tired, cold, wet with sore arms en route back from shops This time next year I will be returning to a cold empty house , not a welcome prospect "

You opened a conversation with this? How horribly manipulative!

You are NOT the victim in all this, you are the abuser. You need to leave your DH alone and get serious help.

tenredthings · 02/11/2019 07:36

I've a question OP. How was your relationship with ex DH's friends? You're behavior reminds me of Someone I knew who was pathologically jealous and had to isolate her DH from everyone in order to feel safe and loved herself. She clearly had massive issues but she really screwed over her DH. Your DH's replies speak to me of someone walking on eggshells around you.

LurkingFather · 02/11/2019 07:36

I can see that consultation.

OP: "My cancer, doctor, they say it can come from stress, oh I am so stressed, I am sure it is from stress, my husband saw his parents , oh that stress, I do not like them and I told him not to see them, oh the stress. The cancer surely comes from that, doctor, what do you think? Doctor, that is awful isn't it? I need to tell my husband that it is his fault. No, it is his parents fault and that he lied to me. Doctor, what should I do, I have cancer because of all of that!"

Doctor "grunt" (thinking 'batshit, crazy, get her out of my room')

Beveren · 02/11/2019 07:43

but what of his culpability, his parents condoning his secret contact with them

Think about it, OP. Suppose in the future the partner of one of your children tries to stop them seeing you. Wouldn't you "condone" their contact with you if that is what they want? Do you think you would be wrong to do so?

Gribbie · 02/11/2019 07:46

Cancer 9 years ago in latest post. But earlier you said you said you blamed him for the stress causing it due to OW. But that was 3 years ago.

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