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Getting my DH back

449 replies

wXyZ123 · 01/11/2019 12:21

I have been with my DH for over 30 years, he has left me, I don’t think he is happy, I would like him to come back and I am frightened of being alone, this is my story, please help me.

As soon as I met my in-laws I felt intimidated by them. DH shared too much information with them, was too influenced by them, put them first and became melancholy after he saw them. I asked him not to see them, to keep away for as long as it took for things to improve. We had occasional contact which always upset us both.

After about 5 years we married, my parents were unwell and could not attend, I did not want DH’s family there.

After our children were born we saw DH’s sister, we all seemed to get on ok but the relationship fizzled out, DH says that was because there was always an “elephant in the room” – the broken relationship with his parents who even now I have only allowed to see our 18 year old children twice.

I was frustrated that rather than build a social life for us or to recognise the efforts I had made with his sister, DH seemed only to focus on what he did not have with his parents and sister.

Nine years ago, I discovered DH was seeing his parents and contacting his sister behind my back, I gave him an “us or them” ultimatum. Later I discovered I had breast cancer, my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility. Our already minimal sex life dropped to non-existent.

DH tried to broker a thaw in relationships, but all that happened was that he and I rowed, he never saw how hurt I was by his parent’s attitude to me , how frightened I was, only how we had wronged them and how he felt

Three years ago DH walked out, leaving me alone with our children. I let him have space but told him I could not cope unless there was a chance of reconciliation. He said there was, we met a few times, he said he felt he should return but did not want to.

After a year he seemed to want to return, but confessed to an affair with a former girlfriend I was devastated. DH and his parents justified his behaviour suggesting I was at least partly culpable. I wanted DH to be contrite and to break all contact with OW . DH wanted me to make returning appealing to him, to promise not to keep him from his parents and sister. Meanwhile OW would not let him go, threatened me with police action if I contacted her and suggested to the police that DH had been the victim of coercive control inflicted by me. As a result of the police threat and learning of the affair our children don’t want to see DH till the OW is out of the picture.

Now DH tells me that the guilt he feels at having only seen our children once in 3 years (and not at all since he confessed to his affair), at leaving me alone to do everything, at the sorrow he has inflicted, makes him want to return but that he loves OW.

I think DH is depressed and unhappy, that he should leave OW and then try to rebuild a life with me and our children. DH says he wishes he could; rewind time, had handled our differences better and had not got into the position he has.

How can I resolve this? I want the best for me, for DH and our children. When I tell DH how I blame OW he defends her, says its not her fault and that she was his life raft in time of need, that he would like us all (his parents, sister and OW) to be friends – I tell him that is cloud cuckoo land which seems to drive him back to OW

What should I do?

OP posts:
Krazynights34 · 01/11/2019 12:29

Honestly I think it’s very unhealthy to issue ultimatums ever and I find your DH’s actions, as you describe the situation, entirely understandable because quite frankly I’d do the same.
He wanted to marry you because he loved you, I imagine, but that does not make him your property to manage as you see fit.
Are you seriously saying that your DH’s family did nothing “wrong” only that you felt intimidated by them (why?) and wanted to remain in contact with them.
Unless something else has gone on you seem quite controlling and manipulative. Perhaps it comes across like that because you haven’t explained what his family actually did.
Your DH may have seemed melancholy after seeing his family because he missed closer ties with them...?
I’m sorry the marriage has been difficult and I feel for you and your children but I would let him go.
Try to find peace and happiness in yourself and your activities.

squashyhat · 01/11/2019 12:32

This has been going on for OVER 30 YEARS? Regardless of the rights and wrongs OP just leave him for both your sakes.

LetsPlayDarts · 01/11/2019 12:33

Reading the above you seem very controlling and intent on playing the victim.

Quite honestly, I'm surprised your DH stayed as long as he did.

MMadness · 01/11/2019 12:35

You isolated him from his entire family? Why? How did they intimidate you?

He's not coming back. It's not the OW fault. He was married to you, not her. He chose to deceive you.

You need to move on. This man hasn't seen his children in 3 years? What kind of father does that? That alone would have me slamming any door to reconciliation shut and dynabolting it.

Fidgety31 · 01/11/2019 12:35

You can’t ask your husband to choose between you and his family - most men will choose their family as yours did too !
And blaming him for your cancer is u fair too.
I’m not surprised he left tbh .
He probably worries that if he comes back to you then he will just carry on getting blamed for stuff .

RedPandaFluff · 01/11/2019 12:36

I'm afraid I agree with PPS, @wXyZ123 - it sounds as if you're being controlling and I feel sorry for your husband as I don't think it's right that you're so unequivocal about his contact with his family . . . unless they did something really terrible to you?

Perhaps tell us more about why you feel so strongly about not wanting him to have contact with his family?

Quartz2208 · 01/11/2019 12:37

You do seem controlling and the cause
He should have seen his family and his children
You have probably screwed them up as eell

WhiskersPete · 01/11/2019 12:39

Your oncologist needs a complaint making against them for saying that. Utter rubbish. You can't blame your husband for your cancer as well you know. You sound controlling OP.

lazylinguist · 01/11/2019 12:40

Nothing in your OP indicates that your parents-in-law did anything bad enough to warrant you banning them from ever seeing their grandchildren or their son. Either you have missed out some really important parts of this story or you are being unreasonable and very controlling.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 01/11/2019 12:41

This whole situation is toxic.

He's only seen his kids once in 3 years? WTF?

Is this because you won't let him, or because he doesn't want to?

Your ultimatums about his family are totally unreasonable if they've never actually done anything to harm you.

Him waltzing off with another woman tells you all you need to know.

Why do you want him back? You don't mention caring about him at all, only wanting to control him.

I think you should accept that this ship has sailed.

MrsCat1 · 01/11/2019 12:41

I think Krazynights is spot on. DH is his own man, not your property. I’m afraid that DH has tried to keep all the relationships going, but you have not been willing to compromise. In any relationship there is give and take and you have been unwilling to give, and have made the situation impossible for DH. I am afraid I could have written this post and I would be the sister and DH my brother. Just because you found his parents over bearing isn’t a reason to cut them off. I think you have been cruel and selfish, I’m sorry to say. I hope you both find happiness elsewhere.

chocolatelover9 · 01/11/2019 12:43

Sounds like he doesn't want to be with you anymore sorry OP. Forget about him, move on and find your own happiness again. Sending you 💐 Your children are old enough to make their own decisions. Good luck in the future :)

yellowallpaper · 01/11/2019 12:43

You prevented him seeing his family and threw a hissy fit when he went behind your back? He was so intimidated by you he felt he couldn't be open about seeing his own parents?

As people say, you sound controlling and frankly awful. I'm surprised he stayed so long and it is a credit to his sense of responsibility to his family, he stayed so long. I hope he finds happiness with his OW.

amiapropermum · 01/11/2019 12:44

Later I discovered I had breast cancer, my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility.

Very sorry to hear of your diagnosis but this is nonsense from a medical point of view. Doesn't sound like your DH fell for it either.

Agree with a PP that you sound very controlling

Anotherlongdrive · 01/11/2019 12:44

my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility. Our already minimal sex life dropped to non-existent.

You told your dh that contacting his parents contributed you getting breast cancer? And wanted him to accept responsibility?

I am sorry but you sound abusive. You isolated him from his family, blamed him for you getting cancer?

You talk about hom walking out on you and the kids? The kids are adults, correct? He didnt leave the kids. He left you.

Was this an affair, or did he start seeing someone in the year between him leaving and telling you about her?

Why were you contacting her at all? And what were you saying?

Why hasnt he seen your adult children? Because I suspect this is down to you not allowing it?

Like you claim you dont allow 18 year olds to see their grandparents. If the 18 year olds wanted to see their grandparents, it's not up to you to allow it.

If he isnt seeing them, then he needs to step up.

The whole tone of this post is quite chilling and I can only guess that there some involvement from you that is stopping involvement.

yellowallpaper · 01/11/2019 12:45

And the breast cancer thing is total nonsense and I don't believe any oncologist would say that, so I'm calling you out on that one.

Leave this poor man alone. I've no doubt he has had 30 years of being controlled by you and will probably come crawling back because that's how coercive control works for the victim.

AndysFavouriteToy · 01/11/2019 12:45

I feel for your children.
You prevented them having a relationship with their grandparents and aunt, and have blatantly overshared with them (manipulated them) and caused real damage to their relationship with their father.
What exactly did your in laws do that was so awful to take their son and grandchildren away and issue ultimatums?
I hope all concerned get to move on from your control and are happy, including your husband.

Anotherlongdrive · 01/11/2019 12:46

Oh and no way did an oncologist tell you that your husband seeing his parents caused, or even contributed to your cancer.

dontgobaconmyheart · 01/11/2019 12:46

I think you need to let him go OP, nowhere is he saying he wants to be with you or loves you. Trying to guilt him in to coming back and him saying he feels he should, is not the same. He is with someone else for goodness sake, and presumably is only maintaining contact with you because he wants a relationship with his kids, because you are being endlessly difficult with unreasonable ultimatums and because you tell him things such as that you 'can only cope if he says there is chance of reconciliation' - so he says it.

There are so many red flags here and a great deal of them seem to be in your
behaviour Confused. I cannot imagine any professional oncologist specifically saying you had breast cancer due to the stress of DH's behaviour being a contributing factor OP (because it's nonsense) so I think you have extrapolated and clung to that a bit, to use it to guilt him is abusive. He has not given you cancer for goodness sake. Asking him to accept some responsibility for it is batshit. Really wtf OP?

Why is he having to contact his parents and sister 'behind your back'- surely he can talk to whoever he likes? He obviously wants to see them and misses them.

How is he living in cloud cuckoo land to hope that his ex-wife would be reasonable enough to be civil with his new partner for the sake of your DC if nothing else. I would be encouraging them to see their father.

She isn't the OW anymore OP she is his new partner and you are separated. Why would she be threatening police, do you contact her? Why are the police involved? He wants to stay with her, so he is OP.

Perhaps it's you that's not letting go. Your behaviour sounds toxic and I'm not surprised he regrets what had come about because he misses his children.

Further to that OP why do you even want him back? He doesn't love you, he doesn't sound like he fancies you or you fancy him, he cheated on you, you claim he has caused you cancer, the whole relationship sounds awful.

Chattybum · 01/11/2019 12:49

I think you have bigger issues then your husband leaving you. Forcing your husband to cut all ties with his family because you were intimidated by them is ridiculous and cruel.

Anotherlongdrive · 01/11/2019 12:50

OP, in 2 years he will apply for divorce. I am 99% sure he knows you wont divorce him.

So he is waiting for the 5 year rule where he can divorce you in the basis of being separated for 5 years. And you cant contest it.

He doesnt want to come back. You need to stop this.

AnneLovesGilbert · 01/11/2019 12:51

You blamed him for giving you cancer?!

OP, you’ve got some serious issues. There are more batshit things in your post than I can count.

Honestly, leave him the fuck alone and let him have a chance at happiness with his partner. You’d broken up so I’m not even sure she’s the OW.

What were you doing to her that she had to involve the police?

Good job manipulating your kids.

ChaosisntapitChaosisaladder19 · 01/11/2019 12:52

You sound awful and controlling stopping him from his family how dare you. I'm not keen on my inlaws due to favoritism with the grandkids however I limit my time I dont stop my dh or the dc seeing them. Blaming him for getting cancer is disgusting. I can see why he left tbh and it's rare I say that.

AmIThough · 01/11/2019 12:55

You sound pretty toxic.

You wouldn't let him have anything to go with his family and have him an ultimatum when he did get in touch.

You blamed him for your cancer (I highly doubt your oncologist said the stress was a contributing factor and if they did they should be sacked.)

His opinions and feelings were completely irrelevant but you got upset he didn't accept your opinions and feelings.

He's got his family and a new woman and the only thing he's missing is his children.
You won't be able to use them as a weapon for long.

hellsbellsmelons · 01/11/2019 12:56

How can I resolve this?
That really depends on you. Can you forgive this affair? Can you ever look at him the same way again? Does he even want to reconcile? Because it really doesn’t sound like it.
It takes 2 to resolve things. He is not interested.
When I tell DH how I blame OW he defends her
Well in his defense, the OW did NOT cheat on you. HE did. This is all on him. Why are you blaming the OW? Your husband made vows to you. He is the one who broke them. Do not give him this 'get of jail free' card. Why would you?
What should I do?
Detach detach detach. Your DH is a liar and a cheat. He does not want to be with you.

Find yourself a new circle of friends. Find a hobby you enjoy. Join groups. Build a new life for yourself that does not include your DH.